Remove Pillar Landscaping on PVE

[WeylandYutani]

On each PVE Server i played are everywhere hundreds Pillars counting as Building a whole Camp blocking the whole Areas for everything and i mean everything, no Campfire, nothing. You cant destroy them because of PVE and they stay two Weeks no matter what.

Theres one, two Bases on the Beach Center Jungle and the rest of the Beaches is blocked by Pillars including the surroundings and the Water. That should be immediatly removed that Pillars count as Base same as Campfire shouldnt count as Base. Sure they should have the same Time to be removed by someone esle as before but only the Foundations should count as Base. Also for that, that this doesnt move into Foundations everywhere, every Player should get a Limit of 5-10 Bases in total depending on the Map size.

There will surely some against this but only the ones what dont want to loose their imagined Land, no one should have the right in this Game to Block an Area in such an massive Size they actually do. I tried many Servers and its everywhere the same, new Player always ask for a Place to build, begging other People for help because they simple cant start to play like this. They cant build a simple Campfire, trust me, i walked hours over hours in the whole Jungle and couldnt find a Place on my farming runs to place a Campfire because everything is blocked.

[Jonathan Sensei]

Play on unofficial servers -- only way you're going to get a break from that -- or play single-player. Your choice OP.

[Jonathan Sensei]

Originally posted by Smittah79:

yup official servers will net you either waking up inside someones compound, or endless pillars for as far as the screen will display. Go unofficial and be happy.

Yeah, it might take a few tries before the OP finds a good unofficial server -- but it's worth the effort.

@OP: Limiting how much a person can build in this game is a horrible idea. At that point you might as well remove base-building entirely... which is something that will never happen.

[WeylandYutani]

I wont go with unofficial Servers, unofficial means Private, own Rules not standardized, not static simple not official. I wont play on unofficial Servers only because the Developers dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about the Community. It may be something good for others but i only go with official Servers, they are from the Game, made by the Game, follow the Game everything else how ever you want to call it is only private. Im really sorry if that sounded a bit harsh it isnt meant like that at all but i always go with Vanilla, no Mods, no changes.

Why need everything count as Base, a Campfire isnt a Base and who care if someone builds a Campfire out of someones Base. These Pillars are only ♥♥♥♥ comparisions, they ruin the Game otherwise you wouldnt recommend unoffcial Severs. The Developer need to care for their Servers and their Community thats at least for what i have paid. If private People run Severs for the Game what work with care then they earn the Money not the Devs dont you think ?

Normally i would say the Developers are simple bad but Rust ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up, DayZ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up and in the end it was the Players fault. Even you also cant really cause the Players for using what the Game has to offer, at least in this case its clearly the fault of the Players. The People playing fair and are capable of Teamwork respecting others as they dont play alone in the end i can count on my two Hands.

But i didnt expect much out of it at least because i also had this with DayZ and Rust, i mean its crazy, the amount would say that more then the half of People playing Video Games are mindsick, not able to live a normal Life.

[Jonathan Sensei]

Originally posted by WeylandYutani:

I wont go with unofficial Servers, unofficial means Private, own Rules not standardized, not static simple not official. I wont play on unofficial Servers only because the Developers dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about the Community. It may be something good for others but i only go with official Servers, they are from the Game, made by the Game, follow the Game everything else how ever you want to call it is only private. Im really sorry if that sounded a bit harsh it isnt meant like that at all but i always go with Vanilla, no Mods, no changes.

Why need everything count as Base, a Campfire isnt a Base and who care if someone builds a Campfire out of someones Base. These Pillars are only ♥♥♥♥ comparisions, they ruin the Game otherwise you wouldnt recommend unoffcial Severs. The Developer need to care for their Servers and their Community thats at least for what i have paid. If private People run Severs for the Game what work with care then they earn the Money not the Devs dont you think ?

Normally i would say the Developers are simple bad but Rust ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up, DayZ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up and in the end it was the Players fault. Even you also cant really cause the Players for using what the Game has to offer, at least in this case its clearly the fault of the Players. The People playing fair and are capable of Teamwork respecting others as they dont play alone in the end i can count on my two Hands.

But i didnt expect much out of it at least because i also had this with DayZ and Rust, i mean its crazy, the amount would say that more then the half of People playing Video Games are mindsick, not able to live a normal Life.

If you play only on official servers then you've made your bed; now lie in it. The devs care about this game... just because you don't like how it's made isn't their fault. At the end of the day, your idea is horrible and it will never happen. You have ways to avoid pillar-spam -- I suggest you use them.

[SpwN3]

EU Pve 252 official. There is not much pillar spamming here. (not where im around xD)
I also prefere official above unofficial for the simple fact that if the admin decides to host another game or just to bring his server down for what ever reason. again pve eu 252, take a look if u desire xD

[Natjur]

I love how people will not play on un-official servers, but then complain about the 'no rules' of official servers...

Building pillars over all the map and 'claiming it all' is allowed so it happens....Most unofficial servers, its not allowed.

Best it to find an un-official server that is prepaid for a year or so, so you know it will not get deleted. Sure that does not stop cheating admins....but its the best middle ground.

[Nikki]

I've played since launch. Never been a person for pillaring. i may pillar a bit out of my base so no one builds directly ontop of me or for future expansion but I agree. It's gotten out of control. It actually makes me sick. What i have noticed on these servers that are pillared out is extreme amounts of lag and a lack of dinos. Haven't figured out whats destroying the dino counts-pillars or people claiming everyone elses dinos where they have 100's of dinos. I do play on unofficial and run my own. Occasionally i'll flip back to official due to the social aspect. I played on PVP briefly till i seen one tribe metal foundationed out every metal spawn on mountains. They had no problems with dino spawns with the same amount of population.

[Mikemikex6]

Pillars and foundations have become the equivalent to rust tool cupboard. i hate to say it but the costs of foundations and pillars needs to drastically increase for this problem to be resolved. would also like to see thatch removed and replace with a concrete to unlock after stone and metal but before tech. concrete wouldn't be destroyable by dinos that could break metal but could for dinos that can break tech tier structures.

[DarthaNyan]

Originally posted by MagicMan:

Pillars and foundations have become the equivalent to rust tool cupboard. i hate to say it but the costs of foundations and pillars needs to drastically increase for this problem to be resolved. would also like to see thatch removed and replace with a concrete to unlock after stone and metal but before tech. concrete wouldn't be destroyable by dinos that could break metal but could for dinos that can break tech tier structures.

You will have an option to do so on new Primitive+ servers they are intended to launch at July 28th. There are clay walls, brick walls, concrete and all other fun stuff... with no high tech. The only explosive available is powder keg that you have to put near wall and ignite and it explodes after 5 seconds.

[Natjur]

If they change the default setting, so players can't build close to your base (currently its a very small limit) and then changed it so you can only have X pillars not connected directly to your base, then it might change. Or change it so any structure under 10 units decays ALOT faster then your main base....

But no matter what, there is not a perfect solution to it besides making it a PVP server so you can destroy them, or some type of admin/bot that goes around destroy them.

Official server have no real rules, so anything goes

[Silberfuchs]

Didn't I read somewhere that the destruction timer will be dependant on the amount of other structures nearby, so that it will be much harder to keep up a pillar area if your base is not nearby?

[123]

They should just make it so that only beds prevent building. And make beds destroyable on all official servers. Then limit the number of beds to 20. Increase the radius that is unbuildable until it is balanced that you can have a large base using only 1-2 beds to block off. If you wnat other bases you can certainly make them just plop a bed inside. If you want a pillaring effect well, you have 20 beds and you have to put them all in a hut.

[Nemo]

Originally posted by Smittah79:

I've said it before and I will say it again. Solution is to limit how many un-attached foundations that can be placed. Un-attached meaning how many pillars you can put up be it 4 or 5 unless they have ceiling/walls or other requirements before you can actually build or place anything.

Uhm... no. All that would do is make it so that only the chinese troll hordes can control a server... which is exactly what would happen on every public server.

Either you're one of those chinese trolls from the horde, or you've never seen them flood across twenty servers and annihilate everyone and everything in a day or two before they move to the next batch. They are why the pillar spam exists in the first place... it's the only protection against them.

So... if you want the pillar spam to end, you should start asking for China to be on its own servers and unable to access anyone else's.

[12pack]

people suck

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

I know you say "no unofficial everything different." etc. But hear me out a moment before you say anything.

I run two unofficial servers, one classic for TheIsland, and another on the new DLC map TheCenter.

Now like you, we too don't like "Drastically different" things where everything's heavily modified (I'm the server owner and admin by the way). I feel we explicitly stay "True" and are 100% "Vanilla". That is at least, no mods. We do have some of the gather rates and tame rates boosted, but just slightly, and not enough to ever feel like "Cheating". No one has 10+ hours to tame a top-level bronto. They just don't.

Also PVE and -NO PILLAR SPAM-. If I catch anyone doing it on either server I'll just flat out ban em and delete all their stuff. I won't tolerate that stupid bullcrap on my servers.

Also the servers are run by me, on my physical server machine in the other room. It's not rented, and it's never going away because I can't afford the rental fees or anything stupid like that. We're here. We're here for the long haul and nothing is ever getting wiped or deleted.

Maybe take a moment to have a little read over here and see if this might be for you. http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/10/351660338729428467/

Otherwise like the others have said, the official servers are -NOT- policed and there are no rules. If people want to control large swaths of the beach area with pillars, then they can do that and no one will stop them.

If you don't like it, don't play at all or go to unofficial servers like my two where this sort of behaviour isn't allowed.