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mircoct May 30, 2016 @ 10:33am
why cant i place the pipes and tank water on the platform saddle?
why cant i place the pipes and tank water on the platform saddle? -.- -.- -.-
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Drago May 30, 2016 @ 10:35am 
Why do you even need water tanks on a platform saddle?

Jars hold just as much water.
Mictlan May 30, 2016 @ 10:36am 
canteens hold even more!
Housatonic May 30, 2016 @ 10:36am 
I suspect because a platform, and as such everything snapped to it, is constantly on the move. The pipe system depends on a water intake (not your use, but the system as a whole) and as such is not compatible with dynamic positions.

It's a technical limitation.
Luna plays May 30, 2016 @ 10:57am 
You need to build a foundation at first then try placing them on top ;) Should work then I guess.
Last edited by Luna plays; May 30, 2016 @ 10:58am
Wild May 30, 2016 @ 11:04am 
Pipe cant be placed on saddle. I read someone saying it was causing sorta of lag because of what housatonic said (not sure if really this the issue or what).
But it doesnt take alot to edit them in the ADK and try it to see (or maybe there is a mod that does this already)
Housatonic May 30, 2016 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Wild:
Pipe cant be placed on saddle. I read someone saying it was causing sorta of lag because of what housatonic said (not sure if really this the issue or what).
But it doesnt take alot to edit them in the ADK and try it to see (or maybe there is a mod that does this already)

I thought (though only from bits and pieces read on the forum, wasn't there as it happened) that the big lag issue with platform saddles was when you put a bronto, on top of a bronto, on top of a bronto, ... which basically meant the top platform saddle was dynamically positioned relative to a dynamically positioned platform that was relative to a dynamically positioned platform that is constantly moving, even as the creature stands still, just from breathing. This I'm sure freaked servers out, and is the reason critters capable of carrying a platform saddle can now no longer get on any kind of platform, rafts included.

My guess with the pipes is that the water pipe system is designed to work with a water intake. Yes, reservoirs can simulate a water intake where no water exists to validate the regular intake, but still, the system as is likely depends at its core code on water requirements for placing them. Since platform saddles move, this would either make it very easy to put the platform carrier near water, build your system, and start walking around with the system either still thinking "I have water access, all is well" which would be very abusable, or it would have to constantly check if it had water access or no (which I imagine is a smaller version of the bronto on a bronto example, and seeing as how rafts have any and all structures on them ghosting whenever they move, I imagine this again could cause serious server load in the right/(wrong) conditions), or they simply say "nope, these do not work on platforms, sorry!"
Currently, the latter seems very reasonable. I certainly hope that when the game moves forward past adding content, and into optimization and polish, that this may be finetuned, same as the AI, the building, ... but right now it is a basic (placeholder?) system that works well enough for this point in time.

My two cents and three guesses, anyway.
Last edited by Housatonic; May 30, 2016 @ 11:44am
Tachyon May 30, 2016 @ 12:48pm 
The Water Well mod lets you place the Well (an infinite water source) on the saddle as well as connect pipes to it. I can't see much point, since rain keeps crops fully irrigated once you've filled them up with water initially. Carry spare canteens, stick them on your button bar and press the relevant number to fill the flasks with rainwater.

The Well is very handy in inhospitable biomes though.
MrMyther Jul 16, 2017 @ 2:30am 
Originally posted by Luna plays:
You need to build a foundation at first then try placing them on top ;) Should work then I guess.
nope
Frostbringer Jul 16, 2017 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by MrMouse001:
Originally posted by Luna plays:
You need to build a foundation at first then try placing them on top ;) Should work then I guess.
nope
I am sure your response to a thread from May 2016 is vital to the topic

Tachyon Jul 16, 2017 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by Jack Frost:
Originally posted by MrMouse001:
nope
I am sure your response to a thread from May 2016 is vital to the topic

That's newbies for ya. :D Amusing to see a post from myself in here, too, from over a year ago!
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Date Posted: May 30, 2016 @ 10:33am
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