ARK: Survival Evolved

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Major Trubble May 13, 2016 @ 12:47pm
Animals don't like Fire
Normally this is true , so why does a Sabertooth Tiger attack me while I am standing behind a huge campfire ???

The only way to get to me was through the fire and nothing should be able to see me as I was crouched and could see nothing past fire , not to mention animals could not smell me , they would smell the fire , yet this tiger knew exactly where I was and had me for lunch : 0-( .
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Tachyon May 13, 2016 @ 12:49pm 
This is a common misconception. In real life an animal hungry enough WILL ignore a camp fire and kill you. Lions aren't afraid of fire, for example. Cautious, maybe, but not enough to drive it away.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-to-survive-a-lion-attack-6523224/?no-ist
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EliteGamer11388 May 13, 2016 @ 12:54pm 
What Tachyon said, and plus, well, animals, "fears", are not programmed in this game. THey plan to eventually make things run away when something big roars, so they may add other things like backing away from fire too
Tenoshii May 13, 2016 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by RheeSykler:
Normally this is true , so why does a Sabertooth Tiger attack me while I am standing behind a huge campfire ???

The only way to get to me was through the fire and nothing should be able to see me as I was crouched and could see nothing past fire , not to mention animals could not smell me , they would smell the fire , yet this tiger knew exactly where I was and had me for lunch : 0-( .

These are dinos, my guess is, they work off different rules. Also, pretty sure a campfire is not sufficient to hide your scent.
EliteGamer11388 May 13, 2016 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Tenoshii:
Originally posted by RheeSykler:
Normally this is true , so why does a Sabertooth Tiger attack me while I am standing behind a huge campfire ???

The only way to get to me was through the fire and nothing should be able to see me as I was crouched and could see nothing past fire , not to mention animals could not smell me , they would smell the fire , yet this tiger knew exactly where I was and had me for lunch : 0-( .

These are dinos, my guess is, they work off different rules. Also, pretty sure a campfire is not sufficient to hide your scent.
To be fair, he specifically mentions the Saber, which isn't a dino. However, it is true, we don't know how these subspecies act compared to others
Tachyon May 13, 2016 @ 1:50pm 
Look up the Lions of Tsavo on Google. They got past thorn fences and campfires, killing an estimated 135 construction workers over 8 months in the late 1800's. Not exactly Sabretooths, but moderately close in some regards.
BasiliskEvolved May 13, 2016 @ 2:56pm 
are you seriously asking why a game didn't make each entity smart enough to have a smell, fear, and other insane senses in their ai? also yes, Tachyon is right.
Humpenstilzchen May 13, 2016 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Tachyon:
Look up the Lions of Tsavo on Google. They got past thorn fences and campfires, killing an estimated 135 construction workers over 8 months in the late 1800's. Not exactly Sabretooths, but moderately close in some regards.

^This
And btw in realife, even though the animal would fear the fire it would at least stay close and observe you and as soon as you go for a pee you would be so damn screwed..^^
This is how real animals behave..you don´t even know that they are around untill it´s to late..
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Onzman May 13, 2016 @ 4:28pm 
I agree with the OP on this one. I have always felt it seemed strange to have random dinos wander right through a campfire with nary a concern. I believe that fire should act as a barrier that disuades an animals approach in most cases, torches included.

I also believe that cooking meat on a fire should bring more wildlife around, as they would be attracted to the scent.

Fires should also damage life on contact, like it does with the cooking pot.

My hopes are that eventually these things would be considered in the AI design at some point.
Major Trubble May 13, 2016 @ 4:38pm 
The other thing I find amazing is that if I am ingame and minimize to Taskbar to open Internet Explorer to research something , I get killed by a Sabertooth , every single time , no dino of any kind , just the Sabertooth , now that is a bit freaky .
Pegasus May 13, 2016 @ 4:39pm 
There sure is still a lot of AI polishing possible, but lets not forget we talking Dinos. So for all we know their instinct to hunt and kill simply over weighted their intelligence that they would get hurt in the process.

On the Center Map with all the Lava on the one Island its fairly popular for T-Rexes to go strolling through the Lava in sight of prey, dying a horrible death in the process...
Ni0 May 13, 2016 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by EliteGamer11388:
Originally posted by Tenoshii:

These are dinos, my guess is, they work off different rules. Also, pretty sure a campfire is not sufficient to hide your scent.
To be fair, he specifically mentions the Saber, which isn't a dino. However, it is true, we don't know how these subspecies act compared to others

It is a wild animal. it is hungry.

Go to a country in africa. Drive out waaaaaaay far to the country. make a fire and sit there. do you really think that fire is going to save you from lions and tigers?.
Go try really.
Onzman May 13, 2016 @ 5:16pm 
The first thing any good survivalist does when setting a camp up in the wilds of Africa, is to build a wall of thorns around the back and sides of the intended camp. The second is to build a fire in the opening in front. This is done for protection, and it works. So it would seem that fire is the accepted deterent against wild (current day) animals. It makes sense that primitive species may have similar behaviours, no?
BasiliskEvolved May 13, 2016 @ 5:23pm 
no. not in a game, otherwise it would just be building fires to block gigas. also as pointed out by Tachyon, fire. doesn't. work. so deal with it.
Ruinedtruth May 13, 2016 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by Onzman:
The first thing any good survivalist does when setting a camp up in the wilds of Africa, is to build a wall of thorns around the back and sides of the intended camp. The second is to build a fire in the opening in front. This is done for protection, and it works. So it would seem that fire is the accepted deterent against wild (current day) animals. It makes sense that primitive species may have similar behaviours, no?
the very word deterrent means it discourages not stop, so while in a real life setting it may help, it doesn't stop it 100%
Onzman May 13, 2016 @ 5:54pm 
Fair enough
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