Base locations in the northern region [Advice needed]

[stickmaster]

Hey survivors,

We had a small base built on a cliff in the southern islands, but we were far away from ressources so we decided to move to the northern region. We have a spawn there now but i am not sure where to build. Good spots are already occupied or big (metal) bases are nearby.

Does someone know a place with a flat area for a medium-sized house, a pen and some more space for farms etc? It should be a bit hidden and close to water. We really dont want to build somewhere where someone can easily see us and then end up losing it again the next day we log in. It shouldnt be thaat hidden but still safe.

I walked around for a bit trying to find a good spot but didn't find a convincing one. Can some people who live in the northern region give me some tips and advice? We really want to be relatively safe.

Thanks in advance,

-Power-

[Leslie]

Wow... you want a lot. "Close to water", which means you want to run pipes down to either the shore or a river. That kind of negates your other "hidden" point. Most people understand when they see a pipe running off into the trees that there is a base at the other end of that pipe.

My suggestion if you want to be "hidden" is sit and watch where the natural flyways are on that server. What route to and from resources to the tribes take. Most recon patrols have certain places they want to check... so people just naturally follow a normal route to get to each one. Example: do they normally fly North of the volcano along the edge of the snow biome, South of the volcano along the river... high or low?... or do they fly over the volcano. Solution is, if you want to remain "hidden", don't build within render distance of these flyways.

This also means you will probably have to rely on water reservoirs instead of intake pipes. Or... rely on subtefuge... place your intake pipe and run the piping towards the trees. Build a small "fake base" just visible along that pipe. Build a small house, put in a water tap, some storage, crop plots and a smithy etc. Make it look convincing. Then continue the pipe on well past that fake base to your real base. Let the raiders show up and destroy what they assume is your base just visible at the edge of the trees. Then they'll pat themselves on the back and fly away.....

Or... look around the map for the deepest darkest forests.. the ones you cannot see the ground when you fly over. The ridges West of the river West of the volcano . The forests South of Farr's peak. The forests around Hidden Lake. Places like these.

[Just Carl]

Originally posted by preorbital:

Wow... you want a lot. "Close to water", which means you want to run pipes down to either the shore or a river. That kind of negates your other "hidden" point. Most people understand when they see a pipe running off into the trees that there is a base at the other end of that pipe.

My suggestion if you want to be "hidden" is sit and watch where the natural flyways are on that server. What route to and from resources to the tribes take. Most recon patrols have certain places they want to check... so people just naturally follow a normal route to get to each one. Example: do they normally fly North of the volcano along the edge of the snow biome, South of the volcano along the river... high or low?... or do they fly over the volcano. Solution is, if you want to remain "hidden", don't build within render distance of these flyways.

This also means you will probably have to rely on water reservoirs instead of intake pipes. Or... rely on subtefuge... place your intake pipe and run the piping towards the trees. Build a small "fake base" just visible along that pipe. Build a small house, put in a water tap, some storage, crop plots and a smithy etc. Make it look convincing. Then continue the pipe on well past that fake base to your real base. Let the raiders show up and destroy what they assume is your base just visible at the edge of the trees. Then they'll pat themselves on the back and fly away.....

Or... look around the map for the deepest darkest forests.. the ones you cannot see the ground when you fly over. The ridges West of the river West of the volcano . The forests South of Farr's peak. The forests around Hidden Lake. Places like these.

Really good points, but I think there's one thing missing to all this...How big of a tribe are we talking about? Cause that's the thing, if you're on a couple guys, you have to stay hidden lol.

[stickmaster]

Well yeah i will need the water for farms or defense systems (Plant X), so there should be some close enough for me to connect pipes to it without automatically leading everyone to my base. That will be kind of impossible i know, except if i build the base in the occean.

I just dont want to wake up on an empty dino pen and destroyed base. Problem is i dont know the map that well and the good spots i know about are already occupied.

[Leslie]

Then build a thatch hut on the beach and make like you're a noob. Begin amassing the resources, knowledge and experience you will need when you do find your spot and make your move. Don't interact with the tribes you fear in any way that lets them know what level you have achieved, what dinos you have or what resources you have. If you have a "good" dino, don't park it at your base. Park it a little ways away in a safe spot with a couple of "protector" dinos between it and the big bad world. A notch in a cliff face or some strategically located huge boulders with a few walls to fill the gaps make a good location...and doesn't get seen as a base if it has adequate foliage coverage. Use the terrain, the local resources and the day to day activites of the other tribes to your advantage. Maybe get a friendly tribe to store some of your dinos or resources. This is risky... what if they get raided? What if they become reluctant to give them back?

Then, when you are ready, build your real base and plop down All your species-X and erect all your walls and turrets at once. Because it is the few weeks period while your base is a work in process that you are (A) visible, and (B) vulnerable. You need to make that period as short as possible so that you spring into existence before anybody recognises that you are becoming a threat. Try for a day or two, preferably during a slow period on the server... like a Tuesday. You may not want to be a threat, but that may or may not be how others see you.

Please note that this means you will have to have planned out your base - completely - before beginning. You won't be able to wing it and move back to "see how it looks and what I should do next." get out paper and pencil and start figureing out where the walls go, where the doors go, how to put the smithy near the storeage, how your going to get bulk weighty materials into and out of the base, where the species-X would be placed for best coverage, etc... and how much resources you need to craft all of it...and how you're going to get all that material Harvested and then moved to the building site. You can be undone while your making dozens and dozens of trips to haul 300 stone back and forth across the map. Remember. ALL of your resources quantities will have a comma in them. That is a huge amount of bulk weight. How many stone wall sections can you carry? Draw it out on graph paper. Draw it again. Make sure you know where you can switch to pillars/ceilings when the ground becomes unlevel. Look at your drawing... how would YOU attack such a base? Watch YT videos of other peoples bases. How were they good, how were they bad. Now go back and change yours.

You got one chance to pop up out of the underbrush and be fully protected as quickly as possible. Make your plans, then execute them.

Then come back here and tell us how close you got before the "bad" tribes found you and shot you off your half-erected walls!