Training Dummy is not working properly

[iliasGaming]

Training Dummy is not working any more.

Punch with fists show 2 and any ranged-weapons show 0.

Rocket turret show some millions.

Anyone else has this problem?

[Uzi [OTG]]

You playing single player or on a hosted server?
I heard elsewhere tis a known issue on single player.

Target dummy on our server is working okay but, it is a hosted server session.......
I tested one I built and have used another clan mate built and both work for both of us.

[iliasGaming]

I tried it on 2 different Official Servers and on 2 maps on Single Player.

I forgot to say that I'm playing on PC.

[Uzi [OTG]]

Well, I re-read your post.

If forgot to add, I did nto try with fists or guns when we tried them some time ago, I was
using them to test dino/animal damage numbers and for that they worked fine.
If I check again this afternoon I'll post in thread here.

[iliasGaming]

With Dinos seem to work correctly.

Fists, melee weapons, ranged weapons and explosives do not work correctly.

I sent email to WC support, but I don't know if someone read these emails.

[Paroxyde]

The training dummy damage is damage for thatch structure. Which is totally irrevelant for anything else except raiding a thatch house. Or apply the multiplier yourself and calculate true damage, which doesn't apply for guns and such as they do 0 damage to thatch.

[Uzi [OTG]]

Okay, back to report after further testing on the server I play on (a modded private server)

Fists 2 damage , as OP said.
Axe and pike reported damage.
Advanced Rifle ammo (using a modded semi auto) zero damage.
Simple rifle ammo in a standard one shot default gun. Zero Damage.
A shotgun, zero damage.
The Dino Overhaul Sniper Rifloe with explosive ammo, 640 damage.
Rhino charge damage ... you don't want to know 28k plus..... run Forest, run. (that is not DPS number but first number)

So, bottom line, some stuff works some don.t

[Paroxyde]

Originally posted by Uzi OTG:

Okay, back to report after further testing on the server I play on (a modded private server)

Fists 2 damage , as OP said.
Axe and pike reported damage.
Advanced Rifle ammo (using a modded semi auto) zero damage.
Simple rifle ammo in a standard one shot default gun. Zero Damage.
A shotgun, zero damage.
The Dino Overhaul Sniper Rifloe with explosive ammo, 640 damage.
Rhino charge damage ... you don't want to know 28k plus..... run Forest, run. (that is not DPS number but first number)

So, bottom line, some stuff works some don.t

They work just fine. It's damage to thatch structure that is shown.

[iliasGaming]

Anyone used the Training Dummy before the latest patch?
It was working correctly.

Training Dummy is to test the damage you do to a player with no armor.
Nothing to do with Thatch structures!

[Paroxyde]

Originally posted by ilias:

Anyone used the Training Dummy before the latest patch?
It was working correctly.

Training Dummy is to test the damage you do to a player with no armor.
Nothing to do with Thatch structures!

Compare your damage at the dummy and a thatch foundation...

[Dardado]

i suggest you to use a command that i don't remember how it is called (something like showfloatingdamage) because the dummy shows the raw damage but the dinos has some kind of resistance, you could see on the dummy that you are doing 1000 damage but to kill something that has surely less than 1000 it will take more than one hit because of this dino resistance thing

[Paroxyde]

They have a x0.7 resistance against firearms but explosives. Of a bullet does 100 to a naked man, it will do 70 to a dino.

[iliasGaming]

Originally posted by jabb:

i suggest you to use a command that i don't remember how it is called (something like showfloatingdamage) because the dummy shows the raw damage but the dinos has some kind of resistance, you could see on the dummy that you are doing 1000 damage but to kill something that has surely less than 1000 it will take more than one hit because of this dino resistance thing

Originally posted by 항문구축함:

They have a x0.7 resistance against firearms but explosives. Of a bullet does 100 to a naked man, it will do 70 to a dino.

Thanks for your replies,
but I don't want to see the exact number of damage that I do to each dino. I want to compare all weapons to see which one has the more damage and which one has the more DPS. But now, it is impossible, because Training Dummy is broken.

The parameter ShowFloatingDamageText=True shows different damage for each dino, because each dino has different resistance. And it is now show the DPS.

But, you didn't answer me to this:
Did you ever try the Training Dummy before v247?
It was working 100% correctrly.
I need to see the how much damage I do to a naked human.
Nothing to do with dinos and resistance.

[Paroxyde]

Originally posted by ilias:

Originally posted by jabb:

i suggest you to use a command that i don't remember how it is called (something like showfloatingdamage) because the dummy shows the raw damage but the dinos has some kind of resistance, you could see on the dummy that you are doing 1000 damage but to kill something that has surely less than 1000 it will take more than one hit because of this dino resistance thing

Originally posted by 항문구축함:

They have a x0.7 resistance against firearms but explosives. Of a bullet does 100 to a naked man, it will do 70 to a dino.

Thanks for your replies,
but I don't want to see the exact number of damage that I do to each dino. I want to compare all weapons to see which one has the more damage and which one has the more DPS. But now, it is impossible, because Training Dummy is broken.

The parameter ShowFloatingDamageText=True shows different damage for each dino, because each dino has different resistance. And it is now show the DPS.

But, you didn't answer me to this:
Did you ever try the Training Dummy before v247?
It was working 100% correctrly.
I need to see the how much damage I do to a naked human.
Nothing to do with dinos and resistance.

It worked like naked humans until 245.
Like thatch ever since then.

[iliasGaming]

Originally posted by 항문구축함:

Originally posted by ilias:

It worked like naked humans until 245.
Like thatch ever since then.

Yes. Exactly!
Is this change intentionally or is it a bug?

[Paroxyde]

Originally posted by ilias:

Originally posted by 항문구축함:

Yes. Exactly!
Is this change intentionally or is it a bug?

Yes, it wouldn't make sense if you hit a trainning dummy and it reacts like a human while it's made of thatch.

Honestly, comparing DPS on a training dummy even with naked human stats is point less, as you have to factor in the missed shots on moving targets. Rocket launcher and minigun turret have same DPS, but I'd rather use the minigun even after the x0.7 multiplier because if you miss a rocket, you miss a chunk of the DPS. How ever, I'll use it on bosses because the DPS matters much more and they are big enough for you to hit 99% of the time.
For other PvE need, use composite bow for killing and long neck for tranq low hp dinos and crossbow with higher hp dinos but with more torpor (Giga).