ARK Overheating rtx 3080

[ToxicFire]

Alright, so I've upgraded to a 3080 from a 2080 and win11 was installed, the game NEVER made my 2080 hit above 70c at epic 1080p uncapped fps.

The game runs perfect as performance goes, well into 120 - 150 fps at epic.
the problem is my gpu is hitting 85c,
Every benchmark/performance video ive seen a 3080 runs 65c - 70c if not way lower at 1080p.

capping the framerate to 60 and 50% utilization still makes it into 80's

Not sure if the issue is windows 11 or the game itself, drivers updated, no dust, no thermal issues in any other game just so confused. i read limiting to 99% power might solve this issue but have no idea how.

Seems when extra distance rednering and or field shadows are enabled makes my temps spike from 72 ish all the way 82-85c when capped at 60 fps with no throttling but this should not be happening.

anyone else experience this or have solution/guide would be very grateful.

[sendjes]

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html and then install the latest driver.

[Iron Chief]

Pretty normal.
The temps depend on a lot of factors. Those glass panel cases don't typically have the greatest airflow to begin with.

85 C on the die is not bad. Just keep it under 90 if you can. The GPU itself throttles thermally (slows down) at around 100C to protect itself.

The VRM memory on the GPU is also rated at just above 100C so just do your best to keep that under 100C.

If your case has great airflow. And your GPU still runs hot. It may be that you actually bought an USED Gpu that may have been sold as New on Amazon/ Newegg or Ebay/ Facebook marketplace, Craigslist or whatever.

People tend to clean and repackage used GPUs and reseal them to sell as new.

The only place to really trust with a new GPU every time is Best Buy and Micro Center or buy directly from vendor like on EVGA site.

But if you buy used by accident or on purpose, don't worry. Not a big deal. Just replace thermal paste and thermal pads and it will run even cooler than when it was brand new as long as you use the correct stuff.

Youtube search your card model. (example MSI Gaming Z trio RTX 3080 thermal pad replacement) and you will find tons of videos on that particular card. Watch a few of them to see what people tend to do and what they recommend as far as pad thickness and brand.

For thermal paste you can use anything non-cheap. Lot's of popular brands to choose from. Noctua NT-H1, Corsair TM30, Arctic MX-4, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, Thermaltake TG-7, Arctic Silver 5, Prolimatech Pk-2

Just watch youtube on how to DIY and don't rush. You will also need to watch a video on how to Disassemble your GPU. ( example MSI Gaming Z trio RTX 3080 disassembly)

Obviously instead of the MSI example, use whatever brand and model you have in the search box. Good luck.

[turk0gamer]

normal the new cards are hotter than the older ones...

[ToxicFire]

@NOpedoJOE2024

I bought it from best buy new and I have an open airflow case but ambient temp may have influence on the card.

I'm just puzzled over how it runs SO much hotter than everybody else but only in this specific game.

hearing my fans for the first time here, but I mean I'll do couple of tests and see if I can pinpoint the direct cause.

[Belier13]

have exact same "issue", Ark kinda only game turning my GPU fan into tractor noise 30 seconds in, have to be happy with low-medium settings but at least gameplay is smooth.

[ToxicFire]

Originally posted by Belier13:

have exact same "issue", Ark kinda only game turning my GPU fan into tractor noise 30 seconds in, have to be happy with low-medium settings but at least gameplay is smooth.

I read everyone else with the same issue were just being told they're cooling is bad
and can't be the software causing it

but then there were a couple telling win11 and late 10 updates are the cause and to lower maximum power to 99%

[Liralen]

All I can say is that my ancient GTX 1070 has been running hot for the last year or so. It's an Nvidia reference card, bought from Best Buy, shortly after it was first released (2016 or soon after).

My guess is that it's due to its age and lots of use since then.

I bought my husband an RTX 2070 Super soon after it was first released, probably in 2019 or early 2020. Also an Nvidia reference card, bought from Best Buy. I like the rigid backplates of Nvidia reference cards.

Since I've always been the one who makes computer purchasing decisions for our household, despite the fact that my husband's degree is in computer engineering (it's more like work to him, than it is for me, but of course, I always get his concurrence first), it would hardly do for me to put the best gear in my PC, would it?

While I had planned to buy myself one soon after, GPU prices skyrocketed. So I upgraded our PCs other components instead. Both his and mine are now identical in every respect except for the GPUs.

My GTX 1070 runs hot (which it didn't used to until the last year or so), while his RTX 2070 Super does not. Our CPUs are rarely above body temperature, from which I assume that the CPU paste was applied properly and the cooling system adequate.

So my GPU's age and extensive use are my guess about the heat issues.

If it's software related, I wouldn't have a clue. Other than for sure I'll let other people beta test new GPU driver updates first for such an old GPU as I have.

Edited Note: I can still play Ark just fine, on Epic settings, although I turn off some settings, such as bloom, which I personally dislike, ever since I first encountered it in Everquest 2. Being blinded by the light isn't my idea of an improvement, and Wildcard didn't implement it any better. (EQ2 was first released in 2004, although bloom wasn't added until years later, so not sure exactly when, but it's been years since I've played EQ2. After Daybreak Games bought it in 2015, they pretty much destroyed it, as if they had no clue about the game's lore and were a Russian money laundering scheme or something.)

[Rich]

Originally posted by ToxicFir3:

Alright, so I've upgraded to a 3080 from a 2080 and win11 was installed, the game NEVER made my 2080 hit above 70c at epic 1080p uncapped fps.

The game runs perfect as performance goes, well into 120 - 150 fps at epic.
the problem is my gpu is hitting 85c,
Every benchmark/performance video ive seen a 3080 runs 65c - 70c if not way lower at 1080p.

capping the framerate to 60 and 50% utilization still makes it into 80's

Not sure if the issue is windows 11 or the game itself, drivers updated, no dust, no thermal issues in any other game just so confused. i read limiting to 99% power might solve this issue but have no idea how.

Seems when extra distance rednering and or field shadows are enabled makes my temps spike from 72 ish all the way 82-85c when capped at 60 fps with no throttling but this should not be happening.

anyone else experience this or have solution/guide would be very grateful.

At what resolution? I have a 3080TI and I do not get anywhere near 120 fps on epic settings (with some things turned off even) at 1440p. More like 40-60fps.

And my temps are always 80C+ when playing Ark.

[Mr G]

That sounds like a you PC problem not the game. check your cooling system and air flow restrictions.

[Iron Chief]

Originally posted by ToxicFir3:

@NOpedoJOE2024

I bought it from best buy new and I have an open airflow case but ambient temp may have influence on the card.

I'm just puzzled over how it runs SO much hotter than everybody else but only in this specific game.

hearing my fans for the first time here, but I mean I'll do couple of tests and see if I can pinpoint the direct cause.

Best buy means you likely got a new GPU or worst case scenario a returned / open box unit, but those should be labeled as such.

In any case, it doesn't hurt to very carefully open it and just check to see if the pads are on there correctly as sometimes they may not be. Either way you can just use it as it is since the temps aren't exactly bad. But up to you.

If you decide to look inside, don't forget to check out a "rtx 3080 (model xyz) disassembly" video and use your own model in the youtube search.

If all looks good, then put it back together and don't worry about it. The temps ain't that bad.

Work on your case cooling instead. Have more fans pushing air in than sucking it out so you build some positive pressure inside. Good luck.

[Iron Chief]

Originally posted by rfzm ↑:

Originally posted by ToxicFir3:

Alright, so I've upgraded to a 3080 from a 2080 and win11 was installed, the game NEVER made my 2080 hit above 70c at epic 1080p uncapped fps.

The game runs perfect as performance goes, well into 120 - 150 fps at epic.
the problem is my gpu is hitting 85c,
Every benchmark/performance video ive seen a 3080 runs 65c - 70c if not way lower at 1080p.

capping the framerate to 60 and 50% utilization still makes it into 80's

Not sure if the issue is windows 11 or the game itself, drivers updated, no dust, no thermal issues in any other game just so confused. i read limiting to 99% power might solve this issue but have no idea how.

Seems when extra distance rednering and or field shadows are enabled makes my temps spike from 72 ish all the way 82-85c when capped at 60 fps with no throttling but this should not be happening.

anyone else experience this or have solution/guide would be very grateful.

At what resolution? I have a 3080TI and I do not get anywhere near 120 fps on epic settings (with some things turned off even) at 1440p. More like 40-60fps.

And my temps are always 80C+ when playing Ark.

Um, well ark can def reach high FPS, not that it's needed but you can't just click on EPIC and call it a day by default.

Might want to turn off a few settings and do a restart of the game after.
Most of the settings don't add a lot in terms of visuals and it only slows the PC down, hence why the standard EPIC mode is kind of useless.

I turned off High Quality Materials and Sub Surface Scattering. The difference in quality is not noticeable.

You can also turn off High quality VFX and may not even notice the difference. I leave that up to you to test out.

Turn off Extra level Streaming distance as well.

Turn off High Quality Anisotropic filtering, makes the game sharper actually.

Turn off Enhanced Max View Distance mode.

Sky quality only do about 1/4 of the bar or less

Ground Clutter Density and Ground Clutter Distance turn all the way down.

Motion Blur and film grain off as well.

Now for the things to leave on.

Do have Distance Field shadowing ON (BUT Don't confuse with Distance Field Ambient Occlusion)
Do have Simple Character Movement ON
Do Have Color Grading and Light Shafts ON
Do have Low Quality Level Streaming ON

Light Bloom is optional, no impact on performance at all. Can make sun glare annoying when on.

Keep Terrain Shadows and General Shadows both on low. (can experiment these two with higher options but this affects the FPS and there's little benefit, I wouldn't go more than HIGH with that setting if you like it high, EPIC there's no difference from high.)

World Tile buffers I keep mine on High, does not make a huge difference. Stresses the SSD more instead of GPU

View Distance I keep mine on HIGH, this can have an impact on FPS, but High is the best IMO when compared to EPIC which shows no benefit, and the HIGH option does not eat too much into FPS unless you're looking at a ton of LARGE bases all the time.

Anti Aliasing I keep on LOW for the same reason as why I turned off High Quality Anisotropic Filtering. (with both those settings I like how the game looks with them on low/off and it saves a few FPS too coincidentally)

Post processing on HIGH does not eat much FPS and looks decent.

Textures on medium or high are both good. I keep mine on HIGH. Epic does not show any real improvement.

Last but not least, Resolution must match your monitor and move the slider for resolution scale all the way to the right (100%)


Now here are a few more optional settings.
Turn these on and play around to see how much FPS you lose with each. One at a time.

Screen Space Ambient occlusion shouldn't do much in terms of lowering FPS. makes the game prettier, but personal preference I keep it off.

Distance Field Ambient occlusion, your GPU should handle it just fine but this settings will slow it down a lot when turned on.

Also Mesh level of detail does not seem to make much of a difference. I leave mine on all the way to the right 100%

I hope this helps.

With the 3080ti you should get like 100 fps no problem, and maybe more. The game does have some hard limits thou in some areas of some maps, keep that in mind. And large bases are not your GPUs fault, they will slow down everyone.

Good luck

[ToxicFire]

Originally posted by NOpedoJOE2024:

Originally posted by ToxicFir3:

@NOpedoJOE2024

I bought it from best buy new and I have an open airflow case but ambient temp may have influence on the card.

I'm just puzzled over how it runs SO much hotter than everybody else but only in this specific game.

hearing my fans for the first time here, but I mean I'll do couple of tests and see if I can pinpoint the direct cause.

Best buy means you likely got a new GPU or worst case scenario a returned / open box unit, but those should be labeled as such.

In any case, it doesn't hurt to very carefully open it and just check to see if the pads are on there correctly as sometimes they may not be. Either way you can just use it as it is since the temps aren't exactly bad. But up to you.

If you decide to look inside, don't forget to check out a "rtx 3080 (model xyz) disassembly" video and use your own model in the youtube search.

If all looks good, then put it back together and don't worry about it. The temps ain't that bad.

Work on your case cooling instead. Have more fans pushing air in than sucking it out so you build some positive pressure inside. Good luck.

I did repaste the gpu the other day free hand, seems the game will always do this
only difference was 2c due to better compound

so it's just normal temps for this card i'm assuming the benches were all playing in cold ambient temps or had non fe cards

i also just upgraded to a lian li o11 all 9 fans with aio exhaust and same temps just 2c off

so basically run now 79-80 with the heatwave here after everything

[ToxicFire]

Originally posted by Mr G:

That sounds like a you PC problem not the game. check your cooling system and air flow restrictions.

already figured out it's the game itself wasn't my build
forgot the poor optimization lmao

[Rich]

Originally posted by NOpedoJOE2024:

Originally posted by rfzm ↑:

At what resolution? I have a 3080TI and I do not get anywhere near 120 fps on epic settings (with some things turned off even) at 1440p. More like 40-60fps.

And my temps are always 80C+ when playing Ark.

Um, well ark can def reach high FPS, not that it's needed but you can't just click on EPIC and call it a day by default.

Might want to turn off a few settings and do a restart of the game after.
Most of the settings don't add a lot in terms of visuals and it only slows the PC down, hence why the standard EPIC mode is kind of useless.

I turned off High Quality Materials and Sub Surface Scattering. The difference in quality is not noticeable.

You can also turn off High quality VFX and may not even notice the difference. I leave that up to you to test out.

Turn off Extra level Streaming distance as well.

Turn off High Quality Anisotropic filtering, makes the game sharper actually.

Turn off Enhanced Max View Distance mode.

Sky quality only do about 1/4 of the bar or less

Ground Clutter Density and Ground Clutter Distance turn all the way down.

Motion Blur and film grain off as well.

Now for the things to leave on.

Do have Distance Field shadowing ON (BUT Don't confuse with Distance Field Ambient Occlusion)
Do have Simple Character Movement ON
Do Have Color Grading and Light Shafts ON
Do have Low Quality Level Streaming ON

Light Bloom is optional, no impact on performance at all. Can make sun glare annoying when on.

Keep Terrain Shadows and General Shadows both on low. (can experiment these two with higher options but this affects the FPS and there's little benefit, I wouldn't go more than HIGH with that setting if you like it high, EPIC there's no difference from high.)

World Tile buffers I keep mine on High, does not make a huge difference. Stresses the SSD more instead of GPU

View Distance I keep mine on HIGH, this can have an impact on FPS, but High is the best IMO when compared to EPIC which shows no benefit, and the HIGH option does not eat too much into FPS unless you're looking at a ton of LARGE bases all the time.

Anti Aliasing I keep on LOW for the same reason as why I turned off High Quality Anisotropic Filtering. (with both those settings I like how the game looks with them on low/off and it saves a few FPS too coincidentally)

Post processing on HIGH does not eat much FPS and looks decent.

Textures on medium or high are both good. I keep mine on HIGH. Epic does not show any real improvement.

Last but not least, Resolution must match your monitor and move the slider for resolution scale all the way to the right (100%)


Now here are a few more optional settings.
Turn these on and play around to see how much FPS you lose with each. One at a time.

Screen Space Ambient occlusion shouldn't do much in terms of lowering FPS. makes the game prettier, but personal preference I keep it off.

Distance Field Ambient occlusion, your GPU should handle it just fine but this settings will slow it down a lot when turned on.

Also Mesh level of detail does not seem to make much of a difference. I leave mine on all the way to the right 100%

I hope this helps.

With the 3080ti you should get like 100 fps no problem, and maybe more. The game does have some hard limits thou in some areas of some maps, keep that in mind. And large bases are not your GPUs fault, they will slow down everyone.

Good luck

Thanks for the suggestions, i'm going to do some testing later.

My settings so far has been:

Resolution: 2560x1440 (windowed fullscreen)
Resolution scale: max
World tile buffers: Epic
View Distance: Epic
Anti-Aliasing: Low
Post Processing: Epic
General Shadows: Epic
Terrain Shadows: Epic
Textures: Epic
Sky Quality: Max
Ground Clutter Density: Lowest
Ground Clutter Distance: Max
Mesh Level Detail: Max
High Quality Ansiotropic Filtering: Enabled
Motion Blur: Disabled
Film Grain: Disabled
Distance Field Ambient Occlusion: Disabled
Screen Space Ambient Occlusion: Enabled
Allow Enhanced Max View Distance Mode: Disabled
Distance Field Shadowing: Enabled
High Quality Materials: Enabled
Sub Surface Scattering :Enabeld
High Quality Vfx: Enabled
Simplce Distance Character Movement: Disabled
High Quality LODs: Enabled
Extra Level Streaming Distance: Enabled
Color Grading: Enabled
Light Bloom: Disabled
Light Shafts: Disabled
Low Quality Level Streaming: Disabled


Fps has been varying a lot. From good (100+ for example playing SP on Valguero) to poor (40-60 playing co-op on The Island via ASM) to very poor ( 20-60 occasionally on The Island) to abysmal (single digit frames at times on Extinction SP with large base + lots of tames out).

[[BRTD]Luewen]

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