The weather makes no sense.

[Chew]

I live in the artic zone because it's pretty. I occassionly find myself freezing to death, which is more so annoying. Keep in mind, I obviously wear fur armor. I also spent 15 levels on fortitude, to have it at 30. And STILL find myself freezing to death occasionally.
So I decided to go caving for the first time, in what I believe is called South 2. Took my Barry, found myself freezing to death to the point I couldn't do the cave.
I then go to an old base, and plant some of the crops to make some rockwells.
The crop times are garbage. Horrid. I spent over 5 hours in the area essentially doing nothing but playing with breeding, and in all that time, I just got ONLY 10 long grass, to make the breathing rockwell recipe, and the fria recipe for warmth.
At one point, I upped the crop growth to the maximum 999 in the slider menu, still getting it that slow. God awful game mechanic that even at 1000x, it's still so slow that it doesn't make sense.
Whatever though, I got the two and went back to the cave, even with full Fur Armor, 30 fortitude, and fria curry, I STILL stayed on the verge of freezing to death having to wait forever for my health to raise or I'd die. Absolutely makes no sense.
Even with sliders to the point I feel like cheating, the game is just pitiful. Trying too hard to be this overly long and difficult game. In the generic, default state, this game is just pitiful.

[Chew]

Originally posted by retsam1:

Originally posted by Chew:

I live in the artic zone because it's pretty. I occassionly find myself freezing to death, which is more so annoying. Keep in mind, I obviously wear fur armor. I also spent 15 levels on fortitude, to have it at 30. And STILL find myself freezing to death occasionally.
So I decided to go caving for the first time, in what I believe is called South 2. Took my Barry, found myself freezing to death to the point I couldn't do the cave.
I then go to an old base, and plant some of the crops to make some rockwells.
The crop times are garbage. Horrid. I spent over 5 hours in the area essentially doing nothing but playing with breeding, and in all that time, I just got ONLY 10 long grass, to make the breathing rockwell recipe, and the fria recipe for warmth.
At one point, I upped the crop growth to the maximum 999 in the slider menu, still getting it that slow. God awful game mechanic that even at 1000x, it's still so slow that it doesn't make sense.
Whatever though, I got the two and went back to the cave, even with full Fur Armor, 30 fortitude, and fria curry, I STILL stayed on the verge of freezing to death having to wait forever for my health to raise or I'd die. Absolutely makes no sense.
Even with sliders to the point I feel like cheating, the game is just pitiful. Trying too hard to be this overly long and difficult game. In the generic, default state, this game is just pitiful.

This has been said before but let's just say it again.

1. Default game play is for 24/7 active servers with Team/Tribe play being the intended goal.


You have to use adjusted settings in single player if that doesnt suit you. It isn't cheating and having that mindset due to having been groomed to think so from other games is going to be a reoccurring issue for you with Ark. (Actually it already has been as you make this inane "feels like cheating" claims in other threads too).


So either shelve that thinking or shelve the game really.

Devs primary intention is for people to play the game the way they want by adjusting settings, admin commands, use of modded content etc.



2. If you claim that 1000x crop production speed is too slow for you then that would seem rather strange. At such a rate crop plots should be instantly full(and by full keep in mind there is a limit/cap for how much crops can be in the plot too of course).

So either you've altered some other settings causing a conflict or mods doing similar......

Also keep in mind you've not specified(since you said it was an old base) whether you were using a green house as that'll improve crop efficiency by 300% too......


3. Regarding breeding too, see point 1 and potentially point 2.


4. Fortitude is not meant to be a "get rid of temperature survival needs" unless pumpped well over 120+. Its meant to be an offset used in conjunction with clothing, torches(or similar), tames(otter etc) and more. However, depending on the map, some places can also have temperature extremes that also do not circumvent those combinations either(ragnarok's murder murder snow is the perfect example. In those cases, it is meant to be even more of an intentional deterrent.

Some caves even in the south of the island map will have cold conditions. You can even get freezing while naked in the south 2 area and not be in a cave or conversely hot.


5. At this point its time to give you a spoiler for the game: The arks are meant to test you and evolve you so to speak. This is a science fiction game where you're meant to be tested in order to escape the arks to then go to earth to try to succeed in populating it again after its catastrophies. There are also arks in the story canon that are essentially broken and their intent is to kill you more than test you.

This is a survival game and per your complaints, its seemingly like you're more of a survival relaxed type of player. Nothing wrong with that at all since most of the 90,000+ unofficial servers involve relaxed settings too.

But you need to accept that instead of what mostly seems to be a dissonance between needing relaxed settings for your caliber of play and expectations to the contrary.

There are at the time of writing this, 90,000+ people playing ark who do not have the same issues that you are because they either accept the default conditions of play or the adjust them to meet their wants.
All in all this is a end user issue with some mismatching going on, really.

It's insane man. I literally stated I have the games slider for crop production at 1000x, and I knew there'd still be people saying "greenhouse". That slider is more then 3x the effectiveness of that. I have no mods, and there are no other sliders in regards to crops. Either the slider doesn't work, or crops are just inexcusably bad. I've always recorded every moment I play, so I can prove this through video playback.
And here you are, justifying that fortitude is only meant to help. Freezing to death in under 5 minutes with 15% of levels in fortitude, with the designated armor for cold weather, and the special recipe you need to find to papers across the world to see the recipe and the breakdown of the slang to make it.
I get you guys love the game, and I really enjoy it. But y'all are ridiculous trying so hard to defend this game because it wants to be edgy.
There's no defending the base game when there are literal creatures, that to tame a single wild version of, will take a literal 2 days or more. OVER 48 hours. Breeding at 24 hours?
It's nonsense, and you know it.
You are honestly trying to be so far in your delusion of this game, you're acting like it isn't a consensus that official default gameplay of this game isn't viewed as garbage and people change damn near every aspect just to make it playable.
Stop fanboying.
I have a provable few hundred blueprints from drops in my bookshelfs, with one fur armor, and somehow I'm told to "just get better". That I need to "just adapt". Brother, I literally did everything to be done in prep and have minutes to die, that is weather that is just stupid, no matter how hardcore a game wants to try and be.

[Chew]

Originally posted by Atomicbean:

The one suggestion I will give to absolutely anyone that wants to learn to play Ark in single player.

Set your player stat values to absolute stupid amounts, and then put every extra point in crafting speed or leave them unspent, until you understand game mechanics.

I usually have most of my stats set in the 50-500 multiplier range, and then throw 1 point on each and like 90 on crafting skill.

The game's design is around multiplayer - You HAVE to change some settings if you don't want to play with others.
If you jump into Ark playing single player, leaving every single setting on default values, don't take the time to understand the few values you do change, and you expect to have a good time... you're not. Even with single player settings on, it doesn't nerf spawn rates. It doesn't nerf basic resource requirements. It doesn't lower environmental hazards. It doesn't skip general progression.

Ark is a very fun single player experience, when you take the time to understand it. To learn it. To... learn how to enjoy it.
But it requires setup and has a very real learning curve.

Jumping into solo default "official" w/e values, is sort of like jumping on a game and playing ranked pvp as your first experience. You're just... not going to have that good of a time.
But just like those games have different modes, Ark has tons of different settings you can change in order to have a better time.

Cut your taming times down. Boost your exp gains. Boost your loot quality. Boost your resource harvest rate. Improve crop values. Give yourself the ability to have 100 "levels" worth of every single stat.
Because the game is designed around playing in a group on a permanently live server.
So those default settings reflect that.

Finding basic guides to good single player settings isn't hard - There's dozens out there from people with thousands of hours in the game.

It's not "cheating" to make something functional. Even more-so than semi-similar games like Rust, Ark is designed around having a team. In single player... you don't have a team. So you can't have that one person that's speced into almost nothing but fortitude go run your cold area stuff for the team until you get access to high-tier equipment. Because you only have the 1 you. So... increase your stat values, so you can be every member of the team.

I don't know if I made it clear enough, even though I didn't directly say, but I am on singleplayer. Most of my rates are changed, breeding so I can learn is almost instant from laying egg, to starting again. Egg takes about 80 seconds to hatch, can "care for" every single second, but get 100% from one action, though I don't use those dinos.
Taming is 12x. I got to max level cap with base xp, but all the fancy industrail machine with no sliders on gather items. I don't mind to grind. I've gotten something like 20k pieces of metal without going 2x and beyond in materials gathered per item. Gotten the insane amounts of gunpowder with just the frog and crafting it. Occasional non stop traveling for beaver dams.
I am really into this, and have grinded everything. Many dinos with level capped at 120 pushing 200-250 from xp, with still normal rates. I have adapted and learned so much. But there isn't much of anything I can do beyond making the cold armor, the cold warming food, and spending a good chunk of points in helping my characters fortitude, just to die within minutes to a terribly designed body temperature system.

[GobboKirk]

Originally posted by Chew:

the designated armor for cold weather

This makes it sound like you're using primitive fur tbh...
If that's the case, well find something better, especially if you go into caves as it will get beat of you in one or two hits.

[Chariot]

Originally posted by Chew:

Originally posted by Nergigante:

It does make sense, You need better quality fur, Otters help, I Love that the game makes it so that you can't instnatly beat the cold by having a fur, Even basic fur barely lets you be slightly cold at *best* conditions in most snow biomes, Also worth mentioning that ice cubing doesn't mean instant death, Even low quality fur reduces cold damage.

Nothing's stopping you from making big farms, Typically you can fit a large amount of medium crop plots in a 4x8 foundation farm, It will give you more than enough crops to make anything you need, Combine it with Greenhouse buildings and you will be generating crops extremely fast.

Edit: You don't need large crop plots for crops, Just medium ones, Big crops are for turrets, I dont believe they give any benefits over medium crop plots, And if they did, you still can also fit an extra row in so it makes it all in all better to have medium crop plots, Small for berries.

It's not pitiful, You just don't know how to adapt and use what the game gives you yet, Torches also work to warm you up, You can enable cave building (I always do this on singleplayer) and carry around a campfire, or even a couple of foundations and a fireplace or two, Doesn't weigh a ton and will let you be warm when needed, You should also be making medical brews incase you don't want to do that, Infact your first priority before caving should be getting a healthy supply of medical brews.

The reason you're dying is because south 2 has a lot of water entrances, Fur does *not* protect you from cold in the water, Make some scuba leggings, Even primitive ones will massively offset cold damage, Fur does nothing in the water.

My friend, I get you love the game, but you cannot just dismiss what I'm saying by listing game mechanics. Fur armor designed for surviving in the cold, with 15% of standard level cap going to fortitude for weather resistance, along with a special recipe you have to kill alphas to get, and still freezing to death in under 5 minutes is garbage. No matter what the game can give you, that is asinine. Even if you can pile on top that much more.
Don't you dare try and defend the crops. Sure I could have had a ton of poop, fertilizer and plots going already. But to defend 5 hours from planting to getting JUST 10 long grass, with the crop growth sliders being set to ONE THOUSAND percent, which is the highest the game will even allow, is garbage. There's no defending a game that makes it that much of a time sink, to just get 10, at even 1k rate.
Don't fanboy, and look at this with a clear perspective.
It's the same crap as saying taming a max level rex or premium creature with red meat should actually take 24-50 hours of REAL TIME. Nobody agrees with the crap like that, so don't fanboy out and defend it.

You don't have to kill alphas for the curry recipes, and 1000 crop growth only yielding 5 crops in 5 hours doesn't sound right, It's very possible that base game crop plots only let you keep 5 crops in the plot, at which point you need to harvest and put them in a preserving bin or refridgerator, That's the more likely case, You need to harvest them as they have a cap on the yield when in a crop plot.

Like I said, You need better cold protections simply, The game doesn't use static values for what is cold and what isn't, You need better fur plain and simple, or take any of my other pieces of advice, It's not a terribly designed system, You're just not using the proper clothing, Basic primitive fur will only get you so far, The game uses values of Primitive, Ramshackle, Apprentice, Journeyman, Mastercraft, and Ascendant. You should start raiding harder temperate caves rather than trying to rush into colder caves that you're blatantly unprepared for, or take an ichy around looking for deep sea loot crates, Those will give you good fur, Even a good singular ascendant piece of fur can keep you warm in the coldest places on the island (maybe save for the ice cave), It's a system that makes it so that you need better quality armor to survive things and beat the cold.

If you have a good quality flak helmet, Try putting one on a penguin and bringing it into caves with you, Have it sit back and be your regen point, The game gives you so many ways to beat the cold, And penguins help with that, You could also completely skip better clothing with just an otter.

[Scott J.]

Originally posted by Chew:

I live in the artic zone because it's pretty. I occassionly find myself freezing to death, which is more so annoying. Keep in mind, I obviously wear fur armor. I also spent 15 levels on fortitude, to have it at 30. And STILL find myself freezing to death occasionally.
So I decided to go caving for the first time, in what I believe is called South 2. Took my Barry, found myself freezing to death to the point I couldn't do the cave.
I then go to an old base, and plant some of the crops to make some rockwells.
The crop times are garbage. Horrid. I spent over 5 hours in the area essentially doing nothing but playing with breeding, and in all that time, I just got ONLY 10 long grass, to make the breathing rockwell recipe, and the fria recipe for warmth.
At one point, I upped the crop growth to the maximum 999 in the slider menu, still getting it that slow. God awful game mechanic that even at 1000x, it's still so slow that it doesn't make sense.
Whatever though, I got the two and went back to the cave, even with full Fur Armor, 30 fortitude, and fria curry, I STILL stayed on the verge of freezing to death having to wait forever for my health to raise or I'd die. Absolutely makes no sense.
Even with sliders to the point I feel like cheating, the game is just pitiful. Trying too hard to be this overly long and difficult game. In the generic, default state, this game is just pitiful.

If you have farm plots you should have a greenhouse around it with pipes to irrigate them. Plenty of fertilizer or poop. Phioma will poop about every other stim berry that you feed it. Instant piles of poop.

[Chariot]

Also visit a cave for dung beetles, Save some of that poop from the Phioma to get poop for dungs, Throw them on wander in a player cage, and enjoy large amounts of fertilizer

[retsam1]

Ok so lets unpack this block of text here....

Originally posted by Chew:

It's insane man. I literally stated I have the games slider for crop production at 1000x, and I knew there'd still be people saying "greenhouse". That slider is more then 3x the effectiveness of that. I have no mods, and there are no other sliders in regards to crops. Either the slider doesn't work, or crops are just inexcusably bad. I've always recorded every moment I play, so I can prove this through video playback.

There are no other sliders regarding crops. Correct. However there are things like:

1. Single player box ticking or not.
2. Changing ini file settings.
3. launch codes like -preventhibernation.
4. Combinations of the above(and more) that can cause adverse affects.
5. And more.

What you're failing to understand is that what you say has little congruence with what the vast majority of people experience when they play and do settings for play. This is why people are perplexed because there is a mismatch between what you say and what most of us experience when playing and adjusting settings to have a play experience mirroring your wants.

Originally posted by Chew:

And here you are, justifying that fortitude is only meant to help. Freezing to death in under 5 minutes with 15% of levels in fortitude, with the designated armor for cold weather, and the special recipe you need to find to papers across the world to see the recipe and the breakdown of the slang to make it.

No, what we've been telling you regarding fortitude is that you have an expectation that doing ONE feature only of the game should equate to you not freezing when we've been trying to tell you the devs INTEND that you use a combination of things to equate to the heating or cooling expectations that you want.

Instead you're entrenched with wanting it to be different. That's fine and we've told you how.

But then you complain about doing that because you inanely think its cheating.

This is an end user, cognitive dissonance issue.

Originally posted by Chew:

I get you guys love the game, and I really enjoy it. But y'all are ridiculous trying so hard to defend this game because it wants to be edgy.
There's no defending the base game when there are literal creatures, that to tame a single wild version of, will take a literal 2 days or more. OVER 48 hours. Breeding at 24 hours?
It's nonsense, and you know it.

No. Base game (ie default settings) are intended for team play for official servers. That's the devs decision on that. That's also why they give players be it single player or unofficial servers, the ability to make game play different to cater to their wants and have encouraged players to also play unofficial servers if official servers don't match them.

Inanely, you're arguing with us in this thread, (and somewhat in your other threads to date) that you want default game play settings to allow you to play the way you want in single player and dont want to change such settings because you think its cheating.

We've said this over and over again now to you. You're wrong with that view point. Its really very very embarrassingly silly of you.

Originally posted by Chew:

You are honestly trying to be so far in your delusion of this game, you're acting like it isn't a consensus that official default gameplay of this game isn't viewed as garbage and people change damn near every aspect just to make it playable.
Stop fanboying.

We're simply telling you what the devs intend for their 1800ish official servers AND what they encourage that has resulted in 90,000+ unofficial servers too.

If you want to call it garbage, that's your choice. I just call it different. I'm not a fan of the official servers(for various reasons not only their default rates mind you..... by the way, the current default rates are not the original default rates, this is actually the third iteration of that. 2015, the rates were much more challenging. Some people still play on those rates(since, yep you guessed it, people can choose to adjust settings to be more challenging and play as they wished.

Again you're being intentionally inane at this point with your table flipping.

Why?

Because you're telling us you hate choice.

Originally posted by Chew:

I have a provable few hundred blueprints from drops in my bookshelfs, with one fur armor, and somehow I'm told to "just get better". That I need to "just adapt". Brother, I literally did everything to be done in prep and have minutes to die, that is weather that is just stupid, no matter how hardcore a game wants to try and be.

Due to the contradictions with what you're saying as a whole compared to the experiences of many of us for 7+ years and thousands of hours of play, yes, there is a view point that more than a few who have posted in this thread have that what you're saying either makes no sense or doesn't add up.

We've attempted to help you sort that but instead you balk at that.


I've suggested you look at things differently and make different choices to match you.

You're intentionally refusing and ranting that you don't want to make different choices.

So let me give you 4 more choices to consider since you've painted yourself into this corner.

1. Roll with default settings since you think anything else is cheating.

2. Change settings and game play thinking to better match your wants instead of the cognitive dissonance and projecting you're doing otherwise.

3. Shelve the game until it matches your delicate sensibilities (ie never).

4. Shelve the game indefinitely (the direction you seem to be headed with your tantrums to date).


Again, this is 100%, categorically, a user end issue.

[Rio]

I got 60 fortitude and usually wear hide armor (Mastercraft/journey), I live in the tundra on the island. 30 fortitude isn't what I'd consider a lot, 30 fort might be what I run in say abberation. But 60 fortitude on say ragonark in the murder snow can be still be very dangerous.

The only time 60 fort really hasn't been good enough for me on the island, was in the one flooded cave where even with that on some nights you can almost instant freeze.

Some day/weather can make normally fine places much too cold.

An otter with a high melee can let you run around the snow without clothes when its around your neck. Otters are great for people that don't want to invest in fortitude

If you go to Ragnarok you can run the Frozen Dungeon, grabbing all the yellow/blue crates that respawn any time you leave and re-enter the dungeon, trying to get high quality fur gear/fur blueprints.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by ⛧Coeur du diable⛧:

I got 60 fortitude and usually wear hide armor (Mastercraft/journey), I live in the tundra on the island. 30 fortitude isn't what I'd consider a lot, 30 fort might be what I run in say abberation. But 60 fortitude on say ragonark in the murder snow can be still be very dangerous.

The only time 60 fort really hasn't been good enough for me on the island, was in the one flooded cave where even with that on some nights you can almost instant freeze.

Some day/weather can make normally fine places much too cold.

An otter with a high melee can let you run around the snow without clothes when its around your neck. Otters are great for people that don't want to invest in fortitude

If you go to Ragnarok you can run the Frozen Dungeon, grabbing all the yellow/blue crates that respawn any time you leave and re-enter the dungeon, trying to get high quality fur gear/fur blueprints.

Most of what you've said here has already been said by others. It doesn't matter to the OP because:

1. He expects default settings to cater to his wants and if it cant, he resists changing things usually because its cheating in his mind. He's made other threads too stating this already.

2. When he does make claims of changes, it doesn't match even remotely to what most experience now for 7 years. When this is pointed out to him, he goes off again blaming devs or us yet not looking at what he's doing himself.

3. He has made more than one thread that has a very similar theme to this one as mentioned. The arguments are becoming circular with them and pointless.. Their table flipping is likely going to eventually have a result that is the opposite of what they feel entitled to occur.

They're really at this point not interested in resolving their issues. Just ranting and axe grinding aimlessly.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by Chew:

This has been said before but let's just say it again.

1. Default game play is for 24/7 active servers with Team/Tribe play being the intended goal.

This is a good point with respect to crop growing, resource respawning times, etc. On the dedicated, unofficial servers I play on, if the server is running while I'm offline.

However, if there isn't a player nearby, the area goes into stasis, then when a player is near or you log back in, the server seems to calculate what should have happened. This works well for resource respawning, crops growing, perishables decaying and such. Not so well with respect to dino's food consumption - but that issue isn't directly relevant to your point, so I won't bore you with the details.

It is relevant with respect to crops growing, though.

With respect to fortitude though, I don't know what to say. My son and I didn't have any fur armor at all when we first ventured into The Island's snow area. We were newbs who didn't know then how to get the mats for fur armor in more temperate areas (we know how now), so we died over and over again trying to get fur, basically by killing mammoths and wolves. We didn't have any blueprint upgrades nor had any vegetables, so we could not survive for long at night outside, even once we had obtained a full set of fur armor each.

[william_es]

Everytime they give ark away for free, we get waves of these whiny kids coming in... this isn't the first time they've handed it out.

OP seems like a whiny idiot, and doesn't seem to listen to advice (if retsam tells you something you should _listen_)... so the following is for the benefit of anyone else having the same problems.

GET AN OTTER.

Otters when worn around your neck, give you insane amounts of cold protection. Level up their melee value, because melee stats controls the level of insulation. Btw they also provide heat protection too, but no where near as good as their cold protection.

Also, if you're going into a cave for an artifact, you bring an otter for it's other hidden ability.

They can carry artifacts. Most other dinos, you can't even put an artifact in their inventory.

Not only that, they can carry multiple copies of the same artifact. If you're in singleplayer, as soon as you pickup an artifact, it's common to see it instantly respawn again. So, grab a second copy and put it in the otter. Might as well, I mean, you're there in the cave. And if you stay in the cave for a while, you'll probably seen it respawn again and again (in singleplayer at least).

The only things to worry about are the damage from the water in the frozen caves, and the AOE attack from direbears. That can hit the otter too, and kill it after enough hits.

[Pisaro]

Why do you think there is better fur Amor in terms of quality in the Game?

Imagine i buy a 40$ winter jacket for one of the coldest areas in the World....

[Chariot]

If your gonna just blatantly refuse to use the things that the game gives you to survive then stop puking out insults and such for being the one that's not doing anything to help yourself.

How do you expect weather to work, Do you go outside and complain that life is hard because it's cold outside? You're the only one looking like a clown here, We're telling you how to play the game and your only argument is "Ahh I can't walk to somewhere cold without being COLD" Literally answered how you deal with the problems so many times, We're giving legitimate answers to your legitimate questions, If you can't handle something as basic as a temperature system, Maybe you should stop playing and go back to minecraft.

I'll repeat it again incase you want to try it out one last time, Get an otter, Get higher quality fur from caves, Equip torches, Carry around campfires, use healing brews.

Who said there wasn't sliders on crop growth speed? There's just a cap on *how many crops can be in a single plot at a time*, Which apparently is 5 per plot, Your crops will grow faster, But they will not grow past the cap.

It's not a perfect game, Far from it, But your complaining about a solvable issue that your just too stubborn to do anything about.

You're probably even trying to do the hard snow cave, Which is literally the hardest cave on the island, Having expecting that you have the *best* fur and weapons, You will die there without fur, You are meant to grind up good fur before you venture further in, I Can promise you with 15% fortitude, primitive fur, and fria curry, You will not be freezing in the snow biome unless you are very far in during the night and a snowstorm.

Also, again, Make scuba leggings if your in the cave that has a lot of freezing water in it, Fur does not protect you from the cold in the water, That's how fur works...

[william_es]

Originally posted by Chew:

You guys look stupid as could be. Y'all clowns act like Jesus himself coded this game and that's why everything makes sense. I've had this game for years. Check the hours clown.

Sorry man, the only clown here is you.

I was flying by the cave of the strong artifact on the island, and went in to get it. Then realized all my fur armor was on my other flier. So I did the cave of the strong on the island, one of the coldest places on the map... in _ghillie_ armor... with an otter around my neck. 1000+ melee on the otter. I got a chilled status message in two places.

You like the snow because it's "pretty", but then whine about it actually being cold. You won't listen to anything we've said.

You're a clown man.

My only recommendations are:

1. Whine harder about it.

2. Whine at different modulations, pitch, or speed.

3. Try dual simultaneous whining, like tibetan throat singing.

If you can do these properly, you will magically change the game.

or just use admin commands and turn on god mode, or infinitestats. That's probably your speed. Or use cheats to just spawn in ascendant level fur armor. Or any of a number of a things you can do in the game.

Or instead, just keep having a temper tantrum here. Shrug. Your choice.

[Strygald]

imo fortitude is a complete waste... one thing you and nobody else mentioned is how many health points your survivor has, how many does he/she have?

There are degrees of freezing(no pun intended), mildly freezing and health drops slower, severe freezing and health drops faster.

So a survivor with 100 health will freeze to death much faster than a survivor with 800 health. When you have 800 health and are mildly freezing it takes a long time to die, and you can chow down on decent food every now and again to counteract the health loss.

Also, fur armor is actually weaker in protection when in water, it's actually harmful to splash around in freezing water while wearing fur armor.

You can survive up on the highest mountains and deepest sea depths with solid health and appropriate gear.