Too many berries - survival aspects too easy

[Molda22]

Is there some way to disable spawning of berries? I feel like they ruin the game. Everywhere you go if you push E you grab millions of berries and most of them will raise both food and water, so there is almost no need to even bother with meat. I feel like at least at the start of the game the survival aspects should be more challenging.
I know you can change the sliders and make your hunger and thirst deplete more quickly, but that doesn't change much.
I wish berries would be physicaly in the world like in other games, that you would have to see them and you would have to find specific berry bush for you to pick them and not like it is in the game that they are absolutely everywhere on everything and you get millions of them.
Coming to Ark from playing Mist Survival - they have the balance done right and it really adds to the enjoyment of the game.

[Brax]

Your complaint is very specific and completely silly. Firstly, play on official rates and tell me you pick too many berries by hand. Mashing the E key for twenty minutes to get enough mejo to tame a low level parasaur sure is not my idea of a fun time but that's what you have to do.

Secondly, berries do not fill up water and haven't done so since scorched earth came out years ago. You get minimal amount of water which disappears immediately upon running.

Thirdly 100 berries weigh 10 units. That's as much as 100 raw steaks. They provide 1/20th the food value at 10x the weight.

So, not OP.

There were plans at one point to implement specific bushes for specific berries. There is a narcoberry bush in the dev kit that's used on the Crystal Isles map. What happened to the rest of them is anyone's guess.

[Vesuvius]

"millions of berries"? what harvest rate are you using lol.

efit your .ini file instead of using the in game sliders and you can make yourself thirsty the insant after you're full.

anyhow.. no .. you cannot remove berries... they are hard coded into the maps...

And you need berries various recipes.... and once you have a reasonable number of herbivore tames... you're gonna want Lots of berries.

Mist Survival is specificaly designed for singleplayer.. wich in Ark was basicaly an afterthought.... so believe me when i say that if you spent all your time in Ark worrying about where your next berry was coming from.... you would never reach end-game content in singleplayer.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Molda22:

Is there some way to disable spawning of berries? I feel like they ruin the game. Everywhere you go if you push E you grab millions of berries and most of them will raise both food and water, so there is almost no need to even bother with meat. I feel like at least at the start of the game the survival aspects should be more challenging.
I know you can change the sliders and make your hunger and thirst deplete more quickly, but that doesn't change much.
I wish berries would be physicaly in the world like in other games, that you would have to see them and you would have to find specific berry bush for you to pick them and not like it is in the game that they are absolutely everywhere on everything and you get millions of them.
Coming to Ark from playing Mist Survival - they have the balance done right and it really adds to the enjoyment of the game.

Are you being serious because this sounds a bit more shenanigan themed post than naught.

1. Different berries are used for different things. Dyes for painting, kibble recipes, player longer lasting food recipes, better or worse taming(to a degree), and of course food for herbivore dinos.

2. I dont recommend manipulating the hunger timers as the way you tame many creatures in the game is related to when they eat. You could make taming much harder for yourself.

3. You assume how 1 map's resource gathering makes the game less challenging yet perhaps have not encountered how it can be very challenging to start on other maps. Also weather changes affect consumption.

4. Comparing Ark to Mist Survival, is rather embarrassingly wince worthy. However, it seems like Ark may not be the game for you. I suggest that you shelf Ark then until it matches your delicate sensibilities or until you actually learn how to play the game.

[Molda22]

wow, calm down, i almost regret that i wrote something here. I didn't attack anyone, i didn't attack the developers or the game itself, i just said, that in other survival games i played i had harder time with survival at the beggining in those games then in Ark.(which i like in survival games when they are challenging) I have the standard rates, i didnt changed anything.
Also i was not saying the whole game is easy, i just said, that the survival aspects seems easy. Because every grass, every plant that is everywhere around you produces berries so if you go somewhere and click E for a few times, you have very quicky 30x high stacks of each type of berry. And if you eat few of them, your food needs are quicky satisfied. I killed the little dinosaur to get some meat, i cooked it, but i dont even need the meat, because it spoils itself quicker then i can eath the berries i have in intentory. (and you cannot avoid them, because you pick them up at the same time from the same plants as fiber i think)
Once again, i am not saying the game is bad, i am sure i will enjoy it for many many hours, but my initial thoughts are just that it seems too easy now when it comes to the "survival" aspects of the game.
Even the hot / cold temperatures seems to only affect thirst and hunger and because managing thirst and hunger is so easy, then also the hot cold temperature doesnt seem to mean much (at least at the beginning)
sorry if my topic offended some hardcore fans, it wasnt my intention

[zerassar]

Small extremes in temperature do just what you stated... They affect hunger and thirst generation as you'd expect IRL.

The more extreme temperatures though can cause damage over time in addition to massively increasing the changes to thirst or hunger.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Molda22:

wow, this community is so toxic and full of hate that i instantly regret that i even wrote something here. I didn't attack anyone, i didn't attack the developers i just said, that in other survival games i played i had harder time with survival at the beggining in those games then in Ark.(which i like in survival games when they are challenging) I have the standard rates, i didnt changed anything.

And we have pointed out how your lack of understanding the game, your preconceived expectations from other games etc have contributed to your perception. However because that answer doesnt satisfy you, it becomes a situation that you are a victim being preyed upon and the community is blanketedly toxic.

Gotcha.

Originally posted by Molda22:

Also i was not saying the whole game is easy, i just said, that the survival aspects seems easy. Because every grass, every plant that is everywhere around you produces berries so if you go somewhere and click E for a few times, you have very quicky 30x high stacks of each type of berry.

On some maps and in some regions of some maps only and in some conditions.

Originally posted by Molda22:

And if you eat few of them, your food needs are quicky satisfied.

On some maps and in some regions of some maps only and in some conditions.

Originally posted by Molda22:

I killed the little dinosaur to get some meat, i cooked it, but i dont even need the meat, because it spoils itself quicker then i can eath the berries i have in intentory. (and you cannot avoid them, because you pick them up at the same time from the same plants as fiber i think)

You continue to see the game only two dimensions.

Meat and berries are for your tames also. Cooked meat lasts longer when placed in dino inventory or troughs so it doesnt spoil as quick. Cooked meat is also used in recipes for taming kibble. It is also used to make jerky(which spoils even slower) which is again in turn used in more advanced kibble recipes for more expeditious and improved taming.

Spoiled meat is used in recipes including making narcotics for other things such as taming dinos. Its also the preferred food for some dino taming needs too.

Originally posted by Molda22:

Once again, i am not saying the game is bad, i am sure i will enjoy it for many many hours, but my initial thoughts are just that it seems too easy now when it comes to the "survival" aspects of the game.

Your initial thoughts are based on your not understanding the game. Period. You only see being a beach bob level game play on easier maps and think you've got the game figured out. Sorry. This is akin to someone learning to ride a tricycle and thinking they're ready to place in an F1 race and telling everyone that they think driving is too easy.

Originally posted by Molda22:

Even the hot / cold temperatures seems to only affect thirst and hunger and because managing thirst and hunger is so easy, then also the hot cold temperature doesnt seem to mean much (at least at the beginning)

On some maps and in some regions of some maps only and in some conditions.

Originally posted by Molda22:

sorry if my topic offended some hardcore fans, it wasnt my intention

You've offended no one. We're simply pointing out to you how little you understand of the totality of the game and the way it is played.

Good luck.

[Veeshan]

You're not wrong, the actual hunger and thirst aspects are toned down quite a bit in Ark as compared to, for example, TerraFirmaCraft. However the temperature aspects are quite standard.

In the end Ark goes way beyond in other areas, to MMO levels of system complexity, and should not be missed.

[Brax]

Originally posted by Molda22:

if you go somewhere and click E for a few times, you have very quicky 30x high stacks of each type of berry

You're playing on easy mode if that's the case. Normal 1x rates do not do that.

[KitsuneShiro]

Originally posted by Molda22:

i just said, that in other survival games i played i had harder time with survival at the beggining in those games then in Ark.(which i like in survival games when they are challenging) I have the standard rates, i didnt changed anything.

Assuming you are playing single player mode, the default is use single player settings which makes the game significantly easier. You have to turn this off and a few other tweaks if you want to play the official vanilla settings.

[Pepperpotty]

There is definitely something wrong with your settings. You usually get only a handful of berries and eating those does very little to your food metre.

[Erandir]

Just put down the amount of harvested items in the server options.

[AlphaboyZz]

If you are looking for a survival game with hard survival aspects ARK is not the one for you. You would be better off focusing on other games. The only "hard" part about this game is the time it takes to tame/raise dinos and that's more of a time wall then difficulty. PVP might be more your style though since there is more survival aspects to it.

[wildbill]

ARK isn't they kind of survival game that makes food so hard to find that you die of starvation, instead there are other ways it kills you. Try Scorched Earth DLC if you want a map that is difficult to survive on. The food is still pretty easy to get, but the water is very hard to come by. Eating berries will not give you enough water.

You might consider that you may be not configuring things correctly for a survival experience too. You should not be getting millions of berries from harvesting. Normally you would have to eat hundreds of berries to restore water, and that takes a few minutes and default rates to get that many berries. Berries are a very poor source of water.

[necaradan666]

That's exactly it, Ark doesn't often kill you with hunger, it's the dinosaurs, and sometimes water.

You can keep your food up pretty much anywhere, on any map, with a handful of berries. Except perhaps in a snowy area because of the cold reducing your hunger stat more quickly and fewer berry bushes, ones that crumble under one grab, do mean there's less food to be had.

Not having a good source of water can easily kill you when you least expect it. Especially if you sprint rather than walk. Not a real problem on basic maps like The Island because the entire ocean is drinkable. Going into a deep cave without a canteen might leave you a little desperate for a drink though. On all the DLC maps like Scorched Earth's desert, water is a priority. Aberration has few water sources and so does Extinction. Water is important to find in all three expansions.