Rare Dino Stats?

[Ghost]

So I noticed something very interesting on a Pteranodon that I tamed (since deceased) vs the last three that I have tamed, that increasing the stamina on the latter increased stamina by 30.

The deceased Pteranodon when I increased its stamina by one point it was increasing around 33.3%, over the standard flat 30 each time. Are there rare stats on some dinos? Or do some dinos have a natural strength in one stat area?

I couldn't find anything about this just lots of posts on the Dodorex calculator, and wonder have any of you lot found this to be the case on any of your dinos?

Cheers.

[Maireen]

Stamina increases 10% of base tamed stat.
If after tame it has 900 starting stamina then each point will give 90

[Ghost]

Yeah I get you but the thing is if base stamina is 30 it should only increae by 3, it doesn't, it increases by 30. Which is normal.

However one pteranodon I had from fresh or level 2 or 3 was going up by 33.3%

So what I mean is are there any stats on any of your dinos that increase by a little extra, any rare stats?

[☦]

No, there are no rare stats. Only a consistent formula.

[Ghost]

So what the hell was goingnon with the 33.3% increase per level? O.O"

[Housatonic]

This is why it is worth to kibble tame high level animals. A higher stat also increases more per level.
It's why people go through so much trouble for perfect tame high levels, why they skip sleep to raise babies and imrpint on them, ...
The higher a stat your animal starts with, the higher its gain per level and the higher its potential.

E: In other words, your animal probably did have an exceptional stat, but because it started off with an unusually high value, not because of a hidden increased multiplier.

[Mi]

I thought the stats rise a percentage of the base stat, not the post tame stat?

[Housatonic]

Originally posted by Mi-chan:

I thought the stats rise a percentage of the base stat, not the post tame stat?

Higher "breeding" values do increase more per level as well, even imprint bonus adds to this from my experience.

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by Ghost:

So what the hell was goingnon with the 33.3% increase per level? O.O"

Okay, let's say there is a stat with the base value of 50. For example melee. So a level 1 dino will cause 50 damage in melee. This means the value is on 100%. Now due to the way this wild dino levels up, every level in melee raises that value by 10%. You tame two wild dinos. One with melee 160% (6 levels gained, 80 damage) and one with 200% (10 levels gained, 100 damage).

Now for tamed dinos the rule also is every level raises the base value by 10% (could be different, though, but for the sake of keeping the calculation easy let's say it's 10%, too). But here's the catch: for tamed dinos the base value is the value it woke up with after taming!

You level both of your dinos two times in melee. This means your first dino gets two times 10% of 160%, which means 16% + 16% = 32%. The other one gets two times 10% of 200%, which is 20% + 20% = 40%.

This is why high level tamed dinos are so ridiculously overpowered, especially when bred. High stats get higher even faster, which means the difference between high and low stats gets bigger exponentially!

And this is also the reason why your one ptera leveled up 33.3% where the others only leveled up 30%. You tamed it with a higher base stat in stamina.

[Mi]

Thanks Joker, great explanation :)

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by Mi-chan:

Thanks Joker, great explanation :)

You're welcome.

I am currently breeding Pteras, and the highest melee Ptera I found has 375% melee, which is really good. But a guy from another tribe has one which has 392% melee. That's only 17% percent points more (absolutely speaking), relatively he only has 4,5% more melee (392 is 104,5% of 375). And yet I will give him a good ascendant longneck blueprint for that ptera. Simply because I know that after imprinting and leveling melee up quite a lot, the difference will not be negligible any more.

[Ghost]

Cheers joker but since i am still fairly new to the game I prefer to tame them around fresh (lvl 1) or as low as possible (2 or 3) and I never get extra levels when taming.

I prefered to keep it lvl 1 (+0) and thats where I saw the 33.3% job. I am just a dinonoob and I was under the impression catching fresh and raising them would have them stronger (but take a much longer time) over having decent stats for the instant high tame.

But on the ptera, I swear it wasn't over level 5, I dont even think it was as high as that.

Cheers.

(On a sidenote, does this mean catching pets from the lowest level possible (or fresh) is useless? That these dinos will be massively underpowered compared to their high level counterparts when one is tamed at 75 (+25) and the other is raised from lvl 1 to 100?)

[☦]

Yep, it's totally pointless to tame lowbies, unless that's all you can get, or unless you want cheap tames for eggs.

[Ghost]

Damn -.-"

[☦]

Because, FYI, it doesn't go 75 + 25 to 100, and 1 + 99 to 100, it goes more like 1 + 50 to 51, and 100 + 50 to 150.

[Mi]

You only gain a certain amount of levels after taming it, I think 63 at this point. (Not sure?)

So your Lvl 1 tame will never be higher than Lvl 64.

If you tame a 150 with kibble, you end up with a 224, and you can gain 63 Levels on top of that to end up with a lvl 287, which is of course a lot stronger than the Lvl 64 even though they both gained 63 levels post tame.