ARK: Survival Evolved

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ArilyBoo Apr 25, 2022 @ 6:41am
Breeding and Mutation Stacking
Ok so I know I can be slow about this but, I can’t seem to wrap my head around it. How is it if I do 10 health mutations and have my perfect pair one male and one female that both have their 10 mutations the offspring has 20 mutations but they have the same stats as the parents? I mean I understand 10 from male and 10 from female and 10+10=20 but they are not getting 20 health mutations they are just getting the 10. It seems like a glitch within the breeding system and doesn’t seem right.
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zerassar Apr 25, 2022 @ 6:50am 
Mutations are NOT linked to stats. Neither do stat points combine together the way you suggest in your OP.
When a mutation occurs, the mutation counter goes up, and the stat point goes up.
There is NO connection between the two. i.e. You inherit the health stat points not the "health mutation".

ALL stats are inherited on a 55% chance the baby will get the better of each stat pair from the parents.

Babies mutation counter will be the combined mutation counter from both parents.
Though with stacking mutations it somewhat renders the mutation counter/cap irrelevant.

If you are stacking correctly though you should be breeding your perfect male with a harem of females (doesnt matter level or stats)... As long as they have <20 mutations.
ArilyBoo Apr 25, 2022 @ 7:28am 
Ok I combined all my mutations and I have one of each. One male 20/20 both sides and one female 20/20 both sides. They are my perfect pair that I can keep breeding to make more and more. I just get confused when it goes from 20/20 to 40/20.
zerassar Apr 25, 2022 @ 7:47am 
Because the pat and mat mutations from each parent are combined into the baby. 20+20=40

Like I said... If further mutations are your goal then breeding two perfect dinos together is doing it wrong.

All you're gonna get doing it that way is clones of the parents and zero new mutations
Graf Schokola Apr 25, 2022 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by ArilyBoo:
Ok I combined all my mutations and I have one of each. One male 20/20 both sides and one female 20/20 both sides. They are my perfect pair that I can keep breeding to make more and more. I just get confused when it goes from 20/20 to 40/20.
No. You want to have females with lower than 20 mutations. Best are 0/0 females. Make many of them (0/0 females) and breed it with your mutated males. One breed line per stat is the best.

Example:
HP breed line: 20x females (0/0 mutations) with 1 male (HP mutated)
Stam breed line: 20x females (0/0 mutations) with 1 male (stam mutated)
And so on.

Use only mutations you need. For boss rexes: HP and dmg.
For wyverns you want to ride for fighting: HP + stam + dmg.
For boss Daeodons: Food (+HP).
mayhem Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:08am 
If you breed a mutated male with the same mutation in a female, one of the mutations gets canceled out in the stats, but the offspring still gets both mutation "points".

Best breeding practice is a mutated male with un-mutated females. If the offspring is male and has a new mutation you want, replace it with the previous male. If the offspring is a female with the mutation you want, breed it with a clean un-mutated male (clone of the females) until its offspring is male with the mutations you want. Then replace it with the previous male.
ArilyBoo Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:12am 
So I have 4 creatures each with 10 mutations in 4 stats. Health, Stam, Weight, and Melee. Two females and two males with 10/20 on one side that I’ve attempted to combine.

So I have breed them together and got one male with two of the four mutations combined 10/20 on both sides and one female the other two of four mutations combined 10/20 on both sides.

Finally I combined all the mutations and got one male 20/20 on both sides and 20/20 female on both sides which is 40
Mutations. Now if I want to create more creatures with this mutation what do I do?

Because I could just breed the 20/20 both sides male when one of my base females but that will make 0/20 and 20/20 paternal side right?
ArilyBoo Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:15am 
In a video on YouTube it was like two hours long I think by seashell gaming she combined everything and had one perfect male and one perfect female that she said you could just keep breeding together and make more mutated creatures.
zerassar Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:22am 
If you want more mutations... As we've said you breed your perfect male with all the mutations with a harem of females with <20 mutations.

You get a baby with the desired mutation. Breed it back with the perfect father.

Get a new better perfect male.

Rinse and repeat.

Breeding perfect male with perfect female with 20/20 will get zero new mutations and only duplicate the parents.
ArilyBoo Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:23am 
No I don’t want more mutations I want what I have but I want more of them. More males and more females to have.
zerassar Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by ArilyBoo:
In a video on YouTube it was like two hours long I think by seashell gaming she combined everything and had one perfect male and one perfect female that she said you could just keep breeding together and make more mutated creatures.
They are using "perfect" to mean the perfect merger of all of the best stats obtained by taming wild dinos.

You are well beyond that point. Do Not breed a 20/20 father with a 20/20 mother if you desire new mutations
zerassar Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by ArilyBoo:
No I don’t want more mutations I want what I have but I want more of them. More males and more females to have.
Then I don't get what this thread is about then.

We've been talking about mutations and stacking... If all you want is more dinos then just breed them together and forget about everything else.
Last edited by zerassar; Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:27am
ArilyBoo Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:29am 
Lol I guess I’m confused why I am breeding a 20/20 on both sides male and both sides female to make more of them and it’s making 40/20 both sides which is not true. When is it duplicating the amount of mutations? Shouldn’t the offspring still be 20/20 each side?
ArilyBoo Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:30am 
Like why does the mutation counter jump to 40/20 both sides totaling 80 mutations when that simple isn’t true
zerassar Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by ArilyBoo:
Lol I guess I’m confused why I am breeding a 20/20 on both sides male and both sides female to make more of them and it’s making 40/20 both sides which is not true. When is it duplicating the amount of mutations? Shouldn’t the offspring still be 20/20 each side?

Like I said earlier... The stats are not connected and inherited with the mutation counter.

A child inherits the counter from both parents. Even if you know those numbers came from the same original mutation.

It is not a glitch or bug. It is working as intended.

If you breed children together or back with their parents the mutation counter will grow exponentially into the millions...
Last edited by zerassar; Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:31am
zerassar Apr 25, 2022 @ 8:34am 
Father: mat 20/20. Pat 20/20. Combines to 40.
Mother: mat 20/20. Pat 20/20.. combines to 40.

Baby: mat 40/20. Pat 40/20.

20+20 = 40. The baby has inherited the total mutations from both parents.
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