Confused about "Lost island" map.

[Herr Morlock]

I want to start with saying that I have a couple of hundreds of hours in the game, playing PVE only with a single friend of mine. I/we have only played on "the Island" and had lots of joy on that map.

I was eager to play the "Lost island", but feel somehow confused. On "the Island", we had very different kinds of species around the starting points, even in the water. At the starting point, you were able to farm silicia, chitin and even iron ore (in lower amounts).
But on the "Lost island" you have neither of those.

I had even a hard time, finding anything like a Parasaurolophus for travelling, around the starting area...

Is this really intended and is this the regular starting situation on other maps than "the Island"? I am asking because I never thought of "the Island" as if it would mouthfeed anything to the player, since there are spawning Spinosaurus' around the starting area, so it was not THAT easy...

[Kraft51]

i feel like the dino spawns are somehow bugged, flew all over most of the map earlier on a ptera scouting for resources and good build sites. i will say there seems to be a more swamp and redwood biomes overall. and the jungle areas are pretty dense, most of the map doesn't seem like its accessible by foot,

again the spawn seem sparse to me also, even though i have it set to max difficulty. but i might just try raising dino count later to see if that makes any difference. i was having a lot of issues finding turtles anywhere so i could make a saddle for my 2 pteras, so now they share lol. haven't seen a single trilobyte, nor anything similar to the beached whales. this is just one the shores though. i did notice that there were far more gulls (the thieving bastards) than any other creature along the shores ... wlhich makes for one annoying fresh start lol.

only 2 pegos the whole time, bunch of compies and dilos .. maybe 4 turtles. theres the same 2 brontos and a few trikes. i've killed off all but 3 of the 8 or 9 gachas around. but those damn gulls just keep taking up the spawns it seems. i have about 10 or 15 in the starting inlet to the northeastern coast. i normally don't mess with the settings other than up harvest amount to x2 and xp to 1.5. everything else stays as is except difficulty because even SP who wants to cap out at lvl 70 or 80 tames lol.

so yes i noticed and i agree.

[esthergray]

It seems sporadic to me. In the bay, I see trikes, dilos, compies, a few carnos, an iguanadon, and, yes, lots of gulls. But, if I go across the bay and up the hill it's Katy bar the door, a real mosh pit. I got a ptera and flew to the redwood fortress to make my base. It's crazy there, too.

[banthab0mb]

I think if this map is your only other map being played (you said you only played The Island) then I feel like the transition would be very big. I think that if you played some other maps you’d get used to stuff not being convenient to get.

[Kraft51]

引用自 banthab0mb：

I think if this map is your only other map being played (you said you only played The Island) then I feel like the transition would be very big. I think that if you played some other maps you’d get used to stuff not being convenient to get.

agreed, i suggest Ragnarok for that step up, its a huge map but its still 2.5 smaller than Lost Islands lol. its also a bloody gorgeous map, and fantastic in its own right.

additionally, i increased Dino Count to 2x and it seems to be much better now. after taking my trike down the shore and clearing away some of the newly spawn raptors, dilos and various other lower level brontos it evened out considerably. even got a trilobyte at the small stream that feeds into Tomash Bay where i started. i'll be back in later and see if its still good.

[Herr Morlock]

Thanks for your last replies, those were helpful. I did already suspect such answers, sadly.
Maybe you can help me with another issue?

While I have around steady 40 FPS on "the island", the performance on "lost island" is WAY worse. Some times, I do only have around 25 FPS.
And I want to remind you that on "the island" I had a very large base with several dozens of dinos, inside (and outside). While in my savefile of "lost island" I have a tiny base (3x3) with no dinos, aside from my single Pteranodon...

I realize that "lost island" is more large than "the island" is, but come on! I have bought a new computer with pretty competitive hardware, half a year ago. Including a 3060, for which you could have bought a one-year-old-"new" car, instead...

And yet, the aged Ark does not run smoothly? Come on.

[Kraft51]

引用自 Würger：

Thanks for your last replies, those were helpful. I did already suspect such answers, sadly.
Maybe you can help me with another issue?

While I have around steady 40 FPS on "the island", the performance on "lost island" is WAY worse. Some times, I do only have around 25 FPS.
And I want to remind you that on "the island" I had a very large base with several dozens of dinos, inside (and outside). While in my savefile of "lost island" I have a tiny base (3x3) with no dinos, aside from my single Pteranodon...

I realize that "lost island" is more large than "the island" is, but come on! I have bought a new computer with pretty competitive hardware, half a year ago. Including a 3060, for which you could have bought a one-year-old-"new" car, instead...

And yet, the aged Ark does not run smoothly? Come on.

idk how to answer this one, i have a 1650 super and it hold up 80 fps consistently with the occasional dip to 55-60, and those are rare enough to not be a concern. its possible you're bottlenecking at your cpu instead. if your cpu can't transfer data at the optimal rate your gpu requests then you will have performance issues. best i can do for now. on that, this rig (ryzen 7 2700, gtx 1650 super 4gb(previously only used for benchmarks), 16gb RAM and a brand new MSI dragon mobo) is only about a year old now, and i game pretty heavily daily. again i suggest taking a look into your cpu transfer rates and compare them to your gpu. thats really all i have to offer here and even that isn't really going to help you all that much. sorry, wish i had more for you.

[Herr Morlock]

引用自 Kraft51：

idk how to answer this one, i have a 1650 super and it hold up 80 fps consistently with the occasional dip to 55-60, and those are rare enough to not be a concern. its possible you're bottlenecking at your cpu instead. if your cpu can't transfer data at the optimal rate your gpu requests then you will have performance issues. best i can do for now. on that, this rig (ryzen 7 2700, gtx 1650 super 4gb(previously only used for benchmarks), 16gb RAM and a brand new MSI dragon mobo) is only about a year old now, and i game pretty heavily daily. again i suggest taking a look into your cpu transfer rates and compare them to your gpu. thats really all i have to offer here and even that isn't really going to help you all that much. sorry, wish i had more for you.

Sorry, I may have formed my question too unprecise. Let me try again:
Is it normal (and reasonable) that the performance on "lost island" is worse (and not just a bit) than that on "the island"?

PS: My PC specs are:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor 3.80 GHz
RAM: 32,0 GB
GPU: Geforce GTX 3060 (regular)
OS: Windows 10 Pro

PPS: Granted, that I have opened my browser in the background with several tabs opened, so I can listen to podcasts, while playing, but that does not explain the difference, completely, since I have opened it on "the island" as well...

[Kraft51]

引用自 Würger：

引用自 Kraft51：

idk how to answer this one, i have a 1650 super and it hold up 80 fps consistently with the occasional dip to 55-60, and those are rare enough to not be a concern. its possible you're bottlenecking at your cpu instead. if your cpu can't transfer data at the optimal rate your gpu requests then you will have performance issues. best i can do for now. on that, this rig (ryzen 7 2700, gtx 1650 super 4gb(previously only used for benchmarks), 16gb RAM and a brand new MSI dragon mobo) is only about a year old now, and i game pretty heavily daily. again i suggest taking a look into your cpu transfer rates and compare them to your gpu. thats really all i have to offer here and even that isn't really going to help you all that much. sorry, wish i had more for you.

Sorry, I may have formed my question too unprecise. Let me try again:
Is it normal (and reasonable) that the performance on "lost island" is worse (and not just a bit) than that on "the island"?

PS: My PC specs are:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor 3.80 GHz
RAM: 32,0 GB
GPU: Geforce GTX 3060 (regular)
OS: Windows 10 Pro

PPS: Granted, that I have opened my browser in the background with several tabs opened, so I can listen to podcasts, while playing, but that does not explain the difference, completely, since I have opened it on "the island" as well...

what resolution are you playing at? apparently the 3060Ti (i realise yours is the regular 3060) is having issues when paired with the Ryzen 7 5800x and running at 1080p... not sure what to make of all of that since my technical knowledge only extends so far lol. google it for yourself with your exact specs as i can only get general information from reddit forums and benchmark sites. again this is the only pertinent information i can find currently.

its possible your PSU isn't capable of carrying your gpu though a full load, especially if you are running instances in the background as well. again my knowledge on the more technical aspects are fairly limited.

[DarkFaceGlow]

Maybe the spawn rates are the same, yet being a bigger map makes it seem like less of everything?

I’ve kinda been enjoying hunting for resources. I enjoy grinding and working for stuff. One thing I have noticed is TONS of Rexes. I think it’s just the map size that’s throwing people off . I’m sure they will make adjustments.

[Kraft51]

引用自 DarkFaceGlow：

Maybe the spawn rates are the same, yet being a bigger map makes it seem like less of everything?

I’ve kinda been enjoying hunting for resources. I enjoy grinding and working for stuff. One thing I have noticed is TONS of Rexes. I think it’s just the map size that’s throwing people off . I’m sure they will make adjustments.

lol i am also :) ... you could be very right about the spawn rates, hadn't really occurred to me. so used to getting eaten by a raptor in the first 30 minutes of any fresh start, was just strange not happening lol.