will the i5 8600k be enough to game and host a server that can handle 20+ ppl on it at the same time

[Zephos]

these are the spec im planning on using for the server/gaming pc
will it be able to handle this kinda load and still get decent frames?(like 40+)
i may begin streaming as well

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($26.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z370 Pro Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($165.86 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($165.86 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Samsung - 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($223.63 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX 11Gbps Video Card ($589.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1701.31

[Toooni]

I do not recommend you to do it on the same machine when you have more than 10 players.

[Zephos]

Originally posted by Toooni:

I do not recommend you to do it on the same machine when you have more than 10 players.

first ..how come? and last would a 4690k be enough to do this efficiently with 32gb ram? thats whats in my current pc atm and what ill be upgrading from

[jonny2772]

Originally posted by Z e p h o s:

Originally posted by Toooni:

I do not recommend you to do it on the same machine when you have more than 10 players.

first ..how come? and last would a 4690k be enough to do this efficiently with 32gb ram? thats whats in my current pc atm and what ill be upgrading from

Maybe, some people even host smaller 5-10 people servers on the good old Q6600, assuming you're not running it graphically - you'd have to learn how to use the command line effectively.
Now, for the 8600k, first of all, good luck finding one in stock. Next, up that cooler, both the 8600k and 8700k get quite toasty, and for these I'd only go either high end air, or water. Also bring those ram speeds up, coffee lake likes 3200mhz for gaming, above this diminishing returns kick on and latency takes over.
Finally, what's the power supply?

[Chuc]

I run 2 servers and play. I even played with 8 others on my pc.

Each server I have uses about 4-5gb ram. The game uses 5 when I play in low memory mode. I only have 16gb ram.

I get 40-60fps with a 1050ti on mix of low epic settings. Max resolution at 1080p

Cpu i7 2600 3.4ghz not overclocked not the k version.

Also my ram sucks, it 4x4 mix of sticks from 533 and up. My wife gets the best parts except for the gpu

[Toooni]

Originally posted by Z e p h o s:

Originally posted by Toooni:

I do not recommend you to do it on the same machine when you have more than 10 players.

first ..how come? and last would a 4690k be enough to do this efficiently with 32gb ram? thats whats in my current pc atm and what ill be upgrading from

Generally it would work...
But in some situations ARK needs much CPU power (ARK Client). If there is a situation where it comes do this high CPU usage on the client...and maybe a high load on the server the same time, then the servers fps can go down and the server starts to lagg.
Therefore i recommend to use 2 machines ..one for the dedicated, one for the client.

Maybe google what "Dedicated" means :)
Dedicated = Does nothing other than that.

So if you have a dedicated ARK server, then this host shouldn't do other things (Like run your client)

[Rocket]

Send me a message... For about $350 you can get a server computer with 8 cores and 48gb ram expandable to 192gb and has two cpu's. It will run 5 or 6 cluster servers easy. Not for playing on... just for running Ark maps or and Dark and Light.

[Chuc]

Originally posted by Toooni:

Originally posted by Z e p h o s:

first ..how come? and last would a 4690k be enough to do this efficiently with 32gb ram? thats whats in my current pc atm and what ill be upgrading from

Generally it would work...
But in some situations ARK needs much CPU power (ARK Client). If there is a situation where it comes do this high CPU usage on the client...and maybe a high load on the server the same time, then the servers fps can go down and the server starts to lagg.
Therefore i recommend to use 2 machines ..one for the dedicated, one for the client.

Maybe google what "Dedicated" means :)
Dedicated = Does nothing other than that.

So if you have a dedicated ARK server, then this host shouldn't do other things (Like run your client)

I found my game crashes before the server lags.

You need to play in low or extremely low memory mode when playing on the server computer and also make each server high priority in the task manager.

[=Sarsante=]

I dont think it can handle 20 people on

[Toooni]

Originally posted by Silky Rough:

I've run 5 people on my system, 3 LAN and 2 external on almost identical. i5/6600, 32 DDR4, 850 EVO SSD, 1070. I get soft spikes (more like stutterrs) on large inventory dumps and big demos.

So I'm reckoning Tooni would be spot on with calling 10 players too many. 20 with client as well would be pushing it I think.

There is a big big difference regarding the server performance between 5 players and 20 players.
Till about 10 players, the server is mostly sleeping (not many active npc's). If you have more than 10 players...the server starts to need power.

Thats why i said 20 players won't run good.

[[FuFo] Mortucus]

if you plan on hosting a full server hell no

[Zephos]

i appreciate the help/pointers would my current systyem be able to hand hosting the server if i upgraded the ram to 32gb? and just used the 8600k based system for gaming/streaming?
current pc
Cpu-4690k
Ram-2x4 kingston savage @ 1600mhz
240 gb ssd (boot drive/a few hgames on it currently)
3tb hdd

[Chuc]

Originally posted by Z e p h o s:

i appreciate the help/pointers would my current systyem be able to hand hosting the server if i upgraded the ram to 32gb? and just used the 8600k based system for gaming/streaming?
current pc
Cpu-4690k
Ram-2x4 kingston savage @ 1600mhz
240 gb ssd (boot drive/a few hgames on it currently)
3tb hdd

Yeah. Should be good to do that I think

[A Terrible Modder]

Originally posted by Z e p h o s:

these are the spec im planning on using for the server/gaming pc
will it be able to handle this kinda load and still get decent frames?(like 40+)
i may begin streaming as well

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($26.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z370 Pro Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($165.86 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($165.86 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Samsung - 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($223.63 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX 11Gbps Video Card ($589.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1701.31

not even close to being able to run a server(get a proper server for ark(may cost some money))

[jonny2772]

Originally posted by Z e p h o s:

i appreciate the help/pointers would my current systyem be able to hand hosting the server if i upgraded the ram to 32gb? and just used the 8600k based system for gaming/streaming?
current pc
Cpu-4690k
Ram-2x4 kingston savage @ 1600mhz
240 gb ssd (boot drive/a few hgames on it currently)
3tb hdd

As long as all it's doing is running a small server without launching the game, yes, easily, you don't even need a dedicated gpu for that. Some people even run small servers from old laptops, so that gives you a fair idea of what to expect. Just for comparison's sake, a 4690k should be able to handle even a 3 server cluster on its own, and about 6-8gb of ram should be enough for a 10 person server. I'd say your connection should reach the limit well before the hardware.