How to defeat King Titan?

[Rich]

TLDR in the end of post.

Tonight we made our first attempt at gamma king titan and to say we failed miserably would be an understatement.

Since this was our first attempt, we had not read up much on strats (we go at every first encounter without any prior knowledge so to not get any spoilers and to get a more challenging fight) and therefor, a failure was not entirely unexpected and while it's fine really, we were not even close to defeating it, forcing us to definitely read up on some strats. However, some things we'd already overheard and so we were already aware of some suggestions, such as taming a titan before going in etc. Yet, we failed massively.

Our setup was:
-3 players, all with full tek gear, 300%+ weapons
-Tamed Ice Titan, with 450k max hp but only about 150k actual hp.
With 4 turrets on its platform.
-About 80 tek rexes, with default ♥♥♥♥ saddle but each with 90k+ hp, lvls 260-300

What happened:
1. We went in with the ice titan, it did good damage but also took massive damage.
2. Corrupted tumors spawned, killing them caused corrupted gigas to spawn.
3. A corrupted node spawned, but no corrupted creatures arrived to attack it. At wave two or three it was either finished or despawned.

At this point also meteors started raining in, our ice titan died and the king titan killed off most of our tek rexes, regenerated it's hp from about 60-65% to 80% and then eventually 100% and we were forced to retreat.

This left us quite confused, considering what we'd read was that tamed titans were optional.

Doing some reading now before our 2nd attempt, i'm finding a lot of inconsistencies..

The wiki & forum post say:
1. You may use an ice titan. Their HP will be filled when the encounter starts.
- The tamed Ice titan we used had 450k max hp, but it wasnt healed when the fight started. It died very early in the fight.

2. "failure to defeat the corrupted tumors will cause a corrupted giga to spawn which will further complicate the fight"
- This is inaccurate. In reality, the corrupted gigas spawn when you kill the corrupted tumors.

3. You can bring max 20 tames
- Wildly inaccurate, we brought 19 tek rexes and once we realized we could have more since it's not a real arena fight but open world, we brought more from our base nearby.

4. Additionally, the "recommended tames list" on the wiki page is laughably wrong. They suggest to bring Meks, Snow owls, yutus, Managarmrs, Quetz, pigs.
- All of these would be one-shotted, not even by the king titans cleave but by the meteors alone.

TLDR: How to kill king titan (gamma) ? Do you need all 3 titans? Is there a way to tame those titans faster than the miserable 3-4 hour grind?

[Vynlann]

I'll tell you how we did it, keeping in mind I did this on a difficulty 10 server where wild dinos were max level 300 (wyverns/rock drakes/tek dinos barring).

all 3 tamed titans, alpha level each (occasionally had beta desert cause he's just a pain in the ass to tame).

Once you have all 3 tamed titans, forest titan to tank, ice titan to smash behind king titan on his ass and desert titan to roam and provide support to our gigas we had roaming killing random corrupted dinos. Flock made quick work of them as well as it being easier to control than ice titan. If you don't have 3 people to control each titan, you can leave ice titan to the AI or forest titan. Just make sure you set up grouping orders.

This will be the same for both gamma and beta. Alpha changes things slightly.

There are two key changes in this fight that you need to pay attention to. Try to stay out of meteors, I believe there is a telegraph location for them. I could be wrong. And when he begins charging his fist, everything and I mean everything needs to turn and focus king titan. You will easily lose this fight if he gets 1 or 2 off.


In alpha, the change is that you need a beefy mega mek, so start farming those red/purple OSD's. Mega Mek will tank the king titan, forest and ice will damage it from behind, and desert will do it's norm. In this case if you don't have 3-4+ people to control them, leave ice/forest to damage the king titan and make sure someone is controlling desert.

I wouldn't go in with rexes. I don't know how other people do it but we had our grunt dinos be gigas, not great gigas, but gigas. I also wouldn't recommend using primitive saddles if you're gonna take additional dinos.

[Shahadem]

For gamma titan we just send in a horde of gigas and it's GG gamma King Titan.

[Dj DNA]

Forget about rexes, send gigas

[𝔇ave]

Yeah gigas are the go. You can send in as many as you can be bothered breeding. Gamma and beta are pretty easy with Gigas. Alpha is a different beast even with a mega mek

[Graf Schokola]

Originally posted by Dj DNA:

Forget about rexes, send gigas

Yes rexs attack range and king titans hitbox dont fit really.

[Rich]

Thanks for your replies. Sounds lika giga army is the way to go then, that way we could also possibly skip the atrocious process of taming another titan?

Regarding giga tames, i've only done this twice. Once was last night, where i tamed a lvl 159 giga, but after it was tamed (99% effectiveness) it ended up being merely lvl 30 something, with 19k hp and 40% melee damage. Each point given into each of those stats give barely any noticeable increase.

How do you get good gigas? They're rare to find, a pain to tame and doesnt seem very good at all once tamed? I mean, we've got some rexes that are lvl 300+ with 120k+ hp and 1000% melee damage, that could easily kill our tamed giga without any hesitation

(yes i'll forget about rexes, just saying, are the tamed gigas useless or is it something off with our server settings?)

[multikill]

Meks with rocket is a god way to kill the titan but you need more than 1 people



Ice and forest titan is an another way to kill the king titan, block king titan with the forest titan and attack the ass from the king titan with the ice titan

when the King titan is in its immobile phase you can use the forest titan to continue attacking it, as the forest titan can do the full damage to the king titan

[Dj DNA]

Originally posted by rfzm ↑:

Thanks for your replies. Sounds lika giga army is the way to go then, that way we could also possibly skip the atrocious process of taming another titan?

Regarding giga tames, i've only done this twice. Once was last night, where i tamed a lvl 159 giga, but after it was tamed (99% effectiveness) it ended up being merely lvl 30 something, with 19k hp and 40% melee damage. Each point given into each of those stats give barely any noticeable increase.

How do you get good gigas? They're rare to find, a pain to tame and doesnt seem very good at all once tamed? I mean, we've got some rexes that are lvl 300+ with 120k+ hp and 1000% melee damage, that could easily kill our tamed giga without any hesitation

(yes i'll forget about rexes, just saying, are the tamed gigas useless or is it something off with our server settings?)

I think something in your setting might be off. All I know is that our bred rexes did not even come close to the bred giga's. the gigas were insane

[multikill]

Bred gigas are really very strong, my gigas have 34k HP and 1k DMG with max lvl

[Rich]

Originally posted by multikill:

Bred gigas are really very strong, my gigas have 34k HP and 1k DMG with max lvl

while that's an improvement, 34k hp is very low, especially for king titan.. he can hit for 30k+ so those gigas would still get 1-2 shotted..

[Vynlann]

Gigas seem like they scale poorly with melee but they don't. Even a small % increase is a lot. Imagine the imprint bonus with a rider. I'm surprised people are saying a horde of gigas and nothing about titans. Must be something with officially difficulty if 5.0 that makes that possible.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Vynlann:

Gigas seem like they scale poorly with melee but they don't. Even a small % increase is a lot. Imagine the imprint bonus with a rider. I'm surprised people are saying a horde of gigas and nothing about titans. Must be something with officially difficulty if 5.0 that makes that possible.

But what about the HP? A giga has very low hp, and will still be oneshotted by king titan, no?

[𝔇ave]

Originally posted by rfzm ↑:

Originally posted by Vynlann:

Gigas seem like they scale poorly with melee but they don't. Even a small % increase is a lot. Imagine the imprint bonus with a rider. I'm surprised people are saying a horde of gigas and nothing about titans. Must be something with officially difficulty if 5.0 that makes that possible.

But what about the HP? A giga has very low hp, and will still be oneshotted by king titan, no?

without a saddle it will but you can get good saddles from air drops or genesis missions.

you could also put the time into mutations as well. i've got heavily mutated gigas that have 50k hp and 1700+ melee with points put in to only melee. saddles crafting skilled from a 130 armor blueprint.

every time i fight the king titan i lose a crap ton of gigas but the saddles are retrievable and replacements can be bred again. but i very rarely lose the battle

[Rich]

Originally posted by 𝔇ave:

Originally posted by rfzm ↑:

But what about the HP? A giga has very low hp, and will still be oneshotted by king titan, no?

without a saddle it will but you can get good saddles from air drops or genesis missions.

you could also put the time into mutations as well. i've got heavily mutated gigas that have 50k hp and 1700+ melee with points put in to only melee. saddles crafting skilled from a 130 armor blueprint.

every time i fight the king titan i lose a crap ton of gigas but the saddles are retrievable and replacements can be bred again. but i very rarely lose the battle

Alright, sounds like this will be our plan then. Will probably take another week at least to breed all the gigas. Unfortunately, we have not got any giga blueprint, and we've completed probably 30 OSDs (with most of them being red or purple). I guess going with normal giga saddles is not enough though.

[multikill]

when i riding a titan can kill me the king titan as rider?!

I used the forest and attacked the King Titan and then King titan killed me as a rider