Wyverns over spawning on Ragnarok

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On my singleplayer server I had noticed that Wyverns were over spawning with there being about 30 or so spawning at each spawn location in the Wyvern trench, and the Ice Wyvern spawns being worse with at least 50 wyverns at each where there would usually only be one. The only reason I could think this is happening is because I had raised the dino count to 1.2, or because I am using mods, however I don't think any of them would alter spawns. Does anyone know why this is happening/ how to fix it?

[BumpInTheNight]

You're using Classic Flyers mod.

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ok, but I had used it before and it didn't cause it

[Vesuvius]

Originally posted by deathlord:

ok, but I had used it before and it didn't cause it

Known issue with CF check the mod page

[Vesuvius]

And yes.... bumping up dino coubt will also increase the overspawn

[BumpInTheNight]

Best I can give is that it seems to be specific to how that mod-team makes their map spawners. It was a problem with Valhalla as well. Doesn't react well to things that over-write default creatures its expecting to produce.

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I read through the cf page but it doesn't explain why non-Ice Wyverns had been overspawning.

[BumpInTheNight]

Any ways, its a well known conflict between Ragnarok/Valhalla and Classic Flyers. To the point where Classic Flyers offers an admin-summonable totem that slays creatures to keep the numbers down for those who really insist on having the mod still.

[Vesuvius]

Originally posted by deathlord:

I read through the cf page but it doesn't explain why non-Ice Wyverns had been overspawning.

Actualy its the other way round.

CF does not effect ice-wyvern at all.... thier spawns have been borked since valguero was made official

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by deathlord:

I read through the cf page but it doesn't explain why non-Ice Wyverns had been overspawning.

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/895711211/1692662484242257712/

And:

Wyverns/Pelas/Quetzals/Griffins/Rock Drakes overspawning all over the place?:
This is what we've termed the overspawn issue. Particular species of dinos overspawning on a map is an issue that can happen when any remap mod, like this one, is used. This is caused by a bug in the core game, specifically with how the core game handles any remap mod when a particular spawner has a limited number of species attached, and is not caused by a bug on the mod's side. Some servers will always see it, others never will, sometimes it'll strike without warning where it hadn't before.
Note: Woeful Macabre, author of ACM (Admin Command Menu), kindly got with me concerning the overspawning we're seeing. Both forms of it - when a remapped dino increases in pop each time the server resest, and the less frequent moments when their population starts to skyrocket with no apparent trigger while a server is continually running - are both errors in the core programming of ARK with regard to handling remaps. This cannot be truly corrected by anyone but WC; they are aware of the issue but seem to be leaving "fixes" to the individual modders.
Why keep this mod as a remap when it causes this overspawn issue? Because a remap is the only way to revert flyers to their pre-nerf stats while allowing players to keep their current tames. It also allows this mod to be removed cleanly at any point without anyone losing their tames should server owners not want it any more.
Until this issue is properly resolved by WC, I've created an automated culling system which will correct the issue as a work-around. This culling system is on by default and requires no admin action to enable. Please see the Settings for CF's Culling System discussion for more information on the overspawn issue and how CF corrects for it.

From the FAQ section:
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/895711211/1318835718933967300

[Vesuvius]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/895711211/1692662484242257712/

You will notice that list does not include ice wyvern .... they are not in the dev kit.

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by Vesuvius:

You will notice that list does not include ice wyvern .... they are not in the dev kit.

Sorry im lazy was using the steam client to copy and paste, last post edited with the quote it is related to :-P

*edit: there fixed all nicely in 1 post :-P

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ok that makes sense, I guess my last ragnarok play through had been before valguero.