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5800X does run hot compared to other 5000 series but nothing to be worried with proper cooling.
Reducing voltage may have unintended outcomes. You should be doing voltage curve not just plain undervolting.
Not entirely unexpected for something that has been out for several months, did have that same combo near the release of the 3080 with similar performance ?
Is the overheating something your read about, or something you experienced ?
There are only a few rare cases where underclocking is the right solution, in most cases it can be solved with better airflow, or a different type of cooling (or another cooler that has better heat spreading).
And basically what Luewen said also.
Also glad to see more input 👍
Can you verify the clock speed on ryzen master? Thats is way too low. Otherwise cpu utilization sounds right as game only uses few threads. Also latest chipset drivers installed? [/quote]
Okay so, I enabled performance in power settings, fps are now a stable 60. CPU utilization is at 29¤ at 4.47ghz. Temps went up a lot though as expected, and pc is now sounding like 15 jet engines.
I'm guessing the solution will be, whenever playing I have to enable performance mode, and then set to power save or balance whenever out of game? (idle temps are absurd unless thats enabled).
I appreciate everyones suggestions so far and if you know how to balance the idle temps i encourage a further discussion.
When I ran a cpu benchmark and also when playing BFV, the temps immediately hit 91C, and didnt increase because of throttling (not that i noticed any performance loss but still).
After spending hours reading about this issue, i understood that the issue is that 5800x draws the same voltage as 5900x (something like 1.45V) even though it is completely unnecessary and only makes the cpu hotter, so i used ryzen master to undervolt to 1.25V (i read that I could go lower but then I would have to use voltage curve or the cpu might not get enough power causing system crash). This resolved the load temps (went down to 75-80c from 91c).
Idle temps however remained absurdly high and never went below 55c, (again reaching as high as 70c on minor tasks) so that's when I read to change power plan in w10 to power saver, which did fix the idle temps but cause the performance issues which started this thread.
So TLDR is: I can either chose to have the CPU go absurdly hot at all times even in idle but be able to play, or I manually have to adjust power settings before every task like i'm working at a electrical substation in the late 1800s ??
Ty, this is very detailed and descriptive, and 91C under load is indeed not a good temp to have on a CPU (especially on short notice like you mentioned with BFV).
A few metrics that might be good to know:
1. ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wifi
2. Noctua NH-U9S Chromax
3. Corsair LL Series LL120 fans
4. Yes its currently rather hot, not sure about room temperature but it's not that hot that it should put the cpu to 70c in idle :/
Either that, or the VRMs are causing the problem, hoping someone with more hardware knowledge has a better idea of the latter.
Not seeing anything out of place with the cooling solution mentioned, and while ambient temp isnt always leading, it can impact the overall temp (though usually not in a major way unless you live in a very hot region).
And the cooler you picked should be a good one.
Yeah, that is too hot for even 5800x on idle. With air cooling and proper case ventilation idle should be around 50 max. Do note that ryzens do run hotter than previous generation intels etc.
My 5900x is water cooled and idles at 35 to 37 degrees. But even small burst of activity causes temp spikes to 60 to 65 degrees. However the temps are not reported as all cores but just the highest core temp.
Hey again, so I've been really annoyed with the temps after enabling high perf. mode, so I swapped to balance (almost no difference, still an industrial furnace in there) but I went back to my Ryzen Master profile with peak core voltages set to 1.25V and core speeds set to 3.75ghz - same as before but honeslty i'm not sure if it was active, couldn't find a way to make sure but anyway I also re-applied thermal paste (noctua nt-h1) and reboot (still with balanced power plan).
Idle temps are now a major improvement, down to ~45C from 65C+ and load temps are also much better! However, with clock speeds locked at 3.75ghz I do notice a minor decrease in performance (down from a stable 60 fps to seeing drops to 50 fps in ab. blue zone).
My question now is, if I up the core speeds to 4ghz from 3.75ghz and keep the 1.25 peak voltage, would it be possible to maintain an average framerate closer to that from before without seeing a temperature increase, or will the cpu not draw enough power?
I know, I shouldn't get greedy here but I do have a feeling that 4.8ghz is not necessary for the performance i'm after. How high core speeds should I realistically be going for if remaining at 1.25 peak voltage output?