What Happened To Ark Primal ?

[RetailPale]

The only reason I ever purchased Ark and still play it to this date is solely because of the Play As Dino Mod. Every minute I have on Ark is because of that mod.
That being said I was totally excited when I heard years ago that there was going to be this "Total Conversion" of Ark but where you can play as the creatures...
Whatever happened to that does anyone know ? It's been years and I've randomly just remembered about it. I don't really keep up with things like this but did Ark Primal end up being the Play As Dino mod or was it Scrapped/Ditched ? Please Let Me Know.

[Lori37]

as far as I know that has been shelved indefinitely

[RetailPale]

Originally posted by Lori37:

as far as I know that has been shelved indefinitely

Thats fair to assume I've only done a little bit of research found some forums from 2017 saying that it hasn't been officially canceled but delayed of course If I had any hope in that it'd have to mean this is the longest delay ever I assume. Especially now with the Lost Island DLC coming out and apparently that's like the "Finishing DLC" to mark the games end I'm probably wrong ? BUT there is also Ark 2 coming out who knows when maybe some hope for that but I really purchased this game years ago for Primal to be honest. Arks base PVP content never interested me.

[Zera_Fox]

Yeah I wouldn't expect any official "play as a dinosaur" content in ARK 1.
Maybe they'll make it possible in ARK 2 but I wouldn't put money on that happening either.

[RetailPale]

Originally posted by Zera_Fox:

Yeah I wouldn't expect any official "play as a dinosaur" content in ARK 1.
Maybe they'll make it possible in ARK 2 but I wouldn't put money on that happening either.

I agree however other than Graphics maybe... what can Ark 2 Really bring that's new ? In my opinion Ark 2 is basically an excuse for content that could easily be for Ark 1 DLC just made relevant because it's a new title If you get what I'm saying. Does anyone know anything about Ark 2 yet BESIDES fAMiLEE ?

[Zera_Fox]

ARK 2 is a whole different engine, for one.
It isn't built on the same old, twisted, warped and completely borked engine that ARK 1 is written on.
ARK 2 is a "different story" too. Whether this is the continuation of ARK's storyline moving forward or what, we don't know that yet exactly.
ARK 2 is also rumored to be taken in a far more primitive approach than ARK 1. AKA: No Tek

ARK 1 is based IN SPACE. 100% Except for the "Extinction DLC" which is a limited access to Earth type of DLC.
ARK 2 is a planet. Not based IN SPACE like ARK 1 is.

So since ARK 2 is actually going in a different direction than ARK 1. It cannot simply be a "new DLC" since at that point there is no "new direction" that can be taken at that point.
And what's more, you'd rather they continue to build on the old, outdated, buggy engine itself rather than using a new, less buggy engine?

I don't know about you, I love ARK and all the hours I've put into it and I've rarely encountered a lot of game-breaking bugs. But I for one am looking forward to a less buggy, less warped, less outdated game engine above all things first and foremost.

A lot of ARK 1's problems are caused by the engine itself and there is no fixing the engine it's built on.

[RetailPale]

Originally posted by Zera_Fox:

ARK 2 is a whole different engine, for one.
It isn't built on the same old, twisted, warped and completely borked engine that ARK 1 is written on.
ARK 2 is a "different story" too. Whether this is the continuation of ARK's storyline moving forward or what, we don't know that yet exactly.
ARK 2 is also rumored to be taken in a far more primitive approach than ARK 1. AKA: No Tek

ARK 1 is based IN SPACE. 100% Except for the "Extinction DLC" which is a limited access to Earth type of DLC.
ARK 2 is a planet. Not based IN SPACE like ARK 1 is.

So since ARK 2 is actually going in a different direction than ARK 1. It cannot simply be a "new DLC" since at that point there is no "new direction" that can be taken at that point.
And what's more, you'd rather they continue to build on the old, outdated, buggy engine itself rather than using a new, less buggy engine?

I don't know about you, I love ARK and all the hours I've put into it and I've rarely encountered a lot of game-breaking bugs. But I for one am looking forward to a less buggy, less warped, less outdated game engine above all things first and foremost.

A lot of ARK 1's problems are caused by the engine itself and there is no fixing the engine it's built on.

I agree with you actually I mean Arks graphics are absolutely terrible for the performance but also just bad, pixel looking, and everything looks like it was slathered in butter no matter what I do. Btw I had ark for years almost since it came out. Never knew it had a story and never wouldve even played it had I known. Ark on a better engine, better graphics sure but Idk if thats 100% truth I mean theyd probably debate with us now that it is ok.

[Zera_Fox]

Originally posted by Milky:

Originally posted by Zera_Fox:

ARK 2 is a whole different engine, for one.
It isn't built on the same old, twisted, warped and completely borked engine that ARK 1 is written on.
ARK 2 is a "different story" too. Whether this is the continuation of ARK's storyline moving forward or what, we don't know that yet exactly.
ARK 2 is also rumored to be taken in a far more primitive approach than ARK 1. AKA: No Tek

ARK 1 is based IN SPACE. 100% Except for the "Extinction DLC" which is a limited access to Earth type of DLC.
ARK 2 is a planet. Not based IN SPACE like ARK 1 is.

So since ARK 2 is actually going in a different direction than ARK 1. It cannot simply be a "new DLC" since at that point there is no "new direction" that can be taken at that point.
And what's more, you'd rather they continue to build on the old, outdated, buggy engine itself rather than using a new, less buggy engine?

I don't know about you, I love ARK and all the hours I've put into it and I've rarely encountered a lot of game-breaking bugs. But I for one am looking forward to a less buggy, less warped, less outdated game engine above all things first and foremost.

A lot of ARK 1's problems are caused by the engine itself and there is no fixing the engine it's built on.

I agree with you actually I mean Arks graphics are absolutely terrible for the performance but also just bad, pixel looking, and everything looks like it was slathered in butter no matter what I do. Btw I had ark for years almost since it came out. Never knew it had a story and never wouldve even played it had I known. Ark on a better engine, better graphics sure but Idk if thats 100% truth I mean theyd probably debate with us now that it is ok.

Near every game has a story...

[RetailPale]

Originally posted by Zera_Fox:

Originally posted by Milky:

I agree with you actually I mean Arks graphics are absolutely terrible for the performance but also just bad, pixel looking, and everything looks like it was slathered in butter no matter what I do. Btw I had ark for years almost since it came out. Never knew it had a story and never wouldve even played it had I known. Ark on a better engine, better graphics sure but Idk if thats 100% truth I mean theyd probably debate with us now that it is ok.

Near every game has a story...

More like sarcasm I was really just saying that I never cared to know or to try it rather. If you even want to call it a story it can be completed online it just seemed very dull because in reality it's just boss fights over and over and filling in that time between grinding the game.

[Zera_Fox]

Originally posted by Milky:

Originally posted by Zera_Fox:

Near every game has a story...

More like sarcasm I was really just saying that I never cared to know or to try it rather. If you even want to call it a story it can be completed online it just seemed very dull because in reality it's just boss fights over and over and filling in that time between grinding the game.

Well it isn't exactly a "play a story" kind of game, so much as there's a story behind the game.

[Kalypso]

The problem is this may step on the toes of other games like it. Even though Day of the Dragons is trash, i would expect them to try and sue based on their rep, and there was a another survival game but really has you playing as dinos that i forget the name of. If Ark does that, that dev would HAVE to sue in order to keep their fanbase, not just have wasted so much money in development just to be overshadowed by Ark.

[RetailPale]

Originally posted by Kalypso Vantoase:

The problem is this may step on the toes of other games like it. Even though Day of the Dragons is trash, i would expect them to try and sue based on their rep, and there was a another survival game but really has you playing as dinos that i forget the name of. If Ark does that, that dev would HAVE to sue in order to keep their fanbase, not just have wasted so much money in development just to be overshadowed by Ark.

I don't think thats how it works at all

[Kalypso]

Originally posted by Milky:

Originally posted by Kalypso Vantoase:

The problem is this may step on the toes of other games like it. Even though Day of the Dragons is trash, i would expect them to try and sue based on their rep, and there was a another survival game but really has you playing as dinos that i forget the name of. If Ark does that, that dev would HAVE to sue in order to keep their fanbase, not just have wasted so much money in development just to be overshadowed by Ark.

I don't think thats how it works at all

That is 100% how it works. If WC copies them and overshadows them, they have every right to sue for the money they lost. This would also bring more people into their game, as more people would know about it.

[RetailPale]

Originally posted by Kalypso Vantoase:

Originally posted by Milky:

I don't think thats how it works at all

That is 100% how it works. If WC copies them and overshadows them, they have every right to sue for the money they lost. This would also bring more people into their game, as more people would know about it.

A game called "The Isle" very popular till this day, they got in some heated debate and the other person decided to make a game out of spite which ended up being very popular as well called "Beasts Of Bermuda" same exact content and they even got to The Isle's promised content faster. No trouble. Not even to mention "Path Of Titans" which literally was created by someone that was fired out of The Isle's Dev Group... Same content and also beat The Isle to their promised content. There is actually a game called "The Beasts Of 9000" Same exact content and actually stole some sounds I believe from "The Isle" and I believe there was even minimal trouble there... All of the games I just mentioned are solely based around Dinosaurs... They have no trouble with Ark. My point is, is that you can't exactly own a concept/Genre. I think you want to be right but it's actually not the truth.

[Kalypso]

Originally posted by Milky:

Originally posted by Kalypso Vantoase:

That is 100% how it works. If WC copies them and overshadows them, they have every right to sue for the money they lost. This would also bring more people into their game, as more people would know about it.

A game called "The Isle" very popular till this day, they got in some heated debate and the other person decided to make a game out of spite which ended up being very popular as well called "Beasts Of Bermuda" same exact content and they even got to The Isle's promised content faster. No trouble. Not even to mention "Path Of Titans" which literally was created by someone that was fired out of The Isle's Dev Group... Same content and also beat The Isle to their promised content. There is actually a game called "The Beasts Of 9000" Same exact content and actually stole some sounds I believe from "The Isle" and I believe there was even minimal trouble there... All of the games I just mentioned are solely based around Dinosaurs... They have no trouble with Ark. My point is, is that you can't exactly own a concept/Genre. I think you want to be right but it's actually not the truth.

Isles should be sued if it's using copyrighted materials without consent. No one HAS to sue anyone, unless for this developer its sink or swim of their game. If Ark just makes a survival game with dinos, and doesn't change the formula enough, they are absolutely treading on the other devs copyrights. I can't fight logical fallacies, so have fun feeling right. Just look up the how copyright law works. I know you won't but i at least can try to point you in the right direction.

[RetailPale]

Originally posted by Kalypso Vantoase:

Originally posted by Milky:

A game called "The Isle" very popular till this day, they got in some heated debate and the other person decided to make a game out of spite which ended up being very popular as well called "Beasts Of Bermuda" same exact content and they even got to The Isle's promised content faster. No trouble. Not even to mention "Path Of Titans" which literally was created by someone that was fired out of The Isle's Dev Group... Same content and also beat The Isle to their promised content. There is actually a game called "The Beasts Of 9000" Same exact content and actually stole some sounds I believe from "The Isle" and I believe there was even minimal trouble there... All of the games I just mentioned are solely based around Dinosaurs... They have no trouble with Ark. My point is, is that you can't exactly own a concept/Genre. I think you want to be right but it's actually not the truth.

Isles should be sued if it's using copyrighted materials without consent. No one HAS to sue anyone, unless for this developer its sink or swim of their game. If Ark just makes a survival game with dinos, and doesn't change the formula enough, they are absolutely treading on the other devs copyrights. I can't fight logical fallacies, so have fun feeling right. Just look up the how copyright law works. I know you won't but i at least can try to point you in the right direction.

No dinosaur game right now that I know of also allows you to build homes/dens and breed so alone Ark wouldve already had that beat. You named 1 creature which would be the dragon and thats just 1 creature and Im not even sure if that wouldve been advertised in Primal but even besides that the dragons are literally like the most minimal part of it. Ark Primal would have been very unique as even till this very moment there is nothing like Ark Primal.