Engram Points in Single Player - not enough?

[Scoob]

Hey all,

I'm Level 81 and haven't even unlock half of the available Engrams yet am out of Points - Single Player, Vanilla Ragnarok FYI.

I get that the game perhaps doesn't want one person to be able to unlock EVERYTHING for their level, however, that's quite an MP-biased thing, as there's just me. I can't have a specialised builder, armourer, weapon smith etc. so everything I need I have to craft myself - or get very very lucky with a loot drop. I'm not lucky lol.

As I've levelled, I've only unlocked things I actually need and have an immediate use for. So, just the weapons I actually use, just the Saddles where I've actually tamed the critter it's for etc. I've unlocked the Fabricator and have the materials to feed it, yet I've not enough points to unlock some of the more advanced stuff.

Where have I spent my points then? Well, just the basics as I tech up really. I've unlocked up to Stone Structures - though certainly not all of them by any means. I have Flak Armour, Ghillie and Fur unlocked to protect myself in the various Biomes - I did unlock Desert clothing too, but that was a bit of a waste as the Ghillie stuff is better in the heat, go figure.

Weapon-wise, well, I just have the basic Longneck Rifle, basic Pistol and Shotgun, nothing fancy. I'm itching to try some of the new tech I've unlocked due to my level, but not enough points.

Basically, it feels like I'm expected to level-grind at this point just to get to the level I need to actually enjoy the game.

It seems a little odd that, of all things, this is the thing restricting me from progressing. As I said, I'm level 81 and have been quite sparing on my unlocks thus far. Literally, there are more greyed out (locked) Engrams than Clear (unlocked) ones, yet I'm out of points.

Is this a know balancing issue for us Single Players, we simply don't get enough points per level? Things seemed so generous early on and I always had points to spare - like I said, I only unlocked what I had use for. However, after unlocking a couple of more advanced items - I wanted to get the Scuba gear - I was out of points and I'd only managed to get two of the four Scuba items. Levelling has been REALLY slow for me since, despite lots of killing, taming and crafting - I've been level 81 for an age.

I expect there's a console command to help me out here, but I don't want to ruin things by over doing it.

Do others find the lack of Engram points causes issues in SP?

Scoob.

[Vesuvius]

With singleplayer settings enabled... auto engram unlock should also be enabled.... that allows you to learn all engrams.... however... if you find singleplayer settings too easy... im pretty sure its a toggle in the main menu options screen... or add bAutoUnlockAllEngrams=true to your SP gus.ini

[Scoob]

Thanks. I just play with the default settings, other than making night relatively shorter. I'll have a look at the options screen and try that setting - having taking a backup of my Save first - or do the .ini file tweak, thanks.

Edit: I just enabled Single Player Settings and it instantly granted me 527 Ingram Points, which is cool. However, it also granted me 21 Levels too, which is too much. Restoring from backup save...

Scoob.

[lonegreywolf20]

Generally no, there aren't enough engrams in SP. You can make them enough with commands and such, or setting auto-engrams, but you can also make mind-wipe tonic and just reset your engrams and grab the new ones that you need.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Scoob:

Edit: I just enabled Single Player Settings and it instantly granted me 527 Ingram Points, which is cool. However, it also granted me 21 Levels too, which is too much. Restoring from backup save...

Scoob.

You get way more engram points with single player mode selected (the checkbox) than the default for multiplayer, but it starts as a slow trickle even then, so until you're much higher level you feel starved for points to get all the engrams that you want.

You can completely customize how many engram points that you get per level, if you wish to, with the ini file for custom levels. It is explained here: http://www.gamewalkthrough-universe.com/Walkthroughs-Guides/Ark-Survival-Evolved/Game-Server-Customization/Custom-Levels/default.aspx

If you do only the ini component for the engram points, and NOT the xp that the above link explains, you will have customized your engram points per level without modifying actual leveling.

You can see the default engram points per level, both for default multiplayer and single player here: https://ark.gamepedia.com/Leveling#Character_Levels

I don't like to use the single player checkbox (makes everything way TOO easy) so I edited my ini for engram points per level to match the single player defaults shown in that link....you can't TRADE in a single player game, so you really do need to get more engram points per level.

[Vesuvius]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

in that link....you can't TRADE in a single player game, so you really do need to get more engram points per level.

This is why id just use the override... you only learn as you level so its not as if you have all engrams from the start.

[Scoob]

Thanks again, I'll have a play with that over the weekend. Do you know what the default number of Engram Points per level is? I assume we get a few more each level and I'd, in effect, be creating a custom list of "level 1 - this number of points, level 2 - this number" etc. etc.

Scoob.

[Veeshan]

I've had no issue whatsoever with engram points since level 50ish maybe 60 (I'm 90 something). You simply stop needing them after long and you also acquire shelves of basic blueprints. That's with a dedicated server at Vanilla rates and no single player setting checked.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Scoob:

Thanks again, I'll have a play with that over the weekend. Do you know what the default number of Engram Points per level is? I assume we get a few more each level and I'd, in effect, be creating a custom list of "level 1 - this number of points, level 2 - this number" etc. etc.

Scoob.

It goes up as you get more levels, but if you click the second link in the post I just made it shows you. In the table "EP" stands for engram points, so it shows the Points gained for each level AND the total you will have as of that level. It has columns for both multiplayer and single player so you can even see what the difference is between the two.

You get the single player quantity if, and only if, you have the single player checkbox checked (or bUseSingleplayerSettings=True in your ini file for a server.)

[Graf Schokola]

The engram points are enough for SP. For 99% of all engrams you can find BPs in supply drops. Find BPs is a major part of the game.

[Stephen]

Originally posted by Scoob:

Edit: I just enabled Single Player Settings and it instantly granted me 527 Ingram Points, which is cool. However, it also granted me 21 Levels too, which is too much. Restoring from backup save...

Scoob.

You can enable the single player setting, and at the same time you can decrease all other settings if you find those "auto multipliers" making the game too easy, like the damage and heath number.
These are the enabled settings in single player setting, just counter-decreasing them by the ratio you want to revert back to normal setting but keep the engrams.

[ServerSettings]
DifficultyOffset=0.200000
XPMultiplier=2.000000
TamingSpeedMultiplier=2.50000
ServerCrosshair=True
ShowMapPlayerLocation=True
EnablePvPGamma=True
AllowFlyerCarryPvE=True

[/script/shootergame.shootergamemode]
MatingIntervalMultiplier=0.125000
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10.000000
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=36.799000
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.167000
bFlyerPlatformAllowUnalignedDinoBasing=False
bAllowCustomRecipes=True
bPassiveDefensesDamageRiderlessDinos=True
MaxDifficulty=False
bUseSingleplayerSettings=True

Originally posted by Scoob:

Thanks again, I'll have a play with that over the weekend. Do you know what the default number of Engram Points per level is? I assume we get a few more each level and I'd, in effect, be creating a custom list of "level 1 - this number of points, level 2 - this number" etc. etc.

Scoob.

Wiki shows all EP you got per-level, here's the complete flow chart:
https://ark.gamepedia.com/Leveling

[Scoob]

Thanks for the info guys, I'll hopefully get some time this weekend to have a play.

As an aside, I think I've been pretty unlucky when it comes to Engrams in loot - most of them are really basic items I've already unlocked. About the most useful have been a couple of better saddles and some improved Ghillie leggings. Nothing else of note really.

It is interesting to see how much higher level I would have been with the Single Player setting checked from the start. I do feel I've stalled at bit over the last few levels, whereas I seemed to fly to level 70 in no time, 71 to 81 have taken an age. Perhaps I will revisit using that setting, and certainly start any fresh games with it.

Scoob.

[lunacy_sp]

can anyone provide me with a way to get more engrams per level in ark ascended?

[-Artemis-]

Originally posted by lunacy_sp:

can anyone provide me with a way to get more engrams per level in ark ascended?

Wrong forum......GG and timeline

[Steven]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.