Breeding light pets

[Obahar_]

When you breed normal animals I think the first generation benefits from putting points into melee, is there a similar effect with the pets?

I imagine maybe the emission range as that is in the same place as the melee stat was and I imagine they use the same code for both normal and light pets breeding.

But has anybody tested this or anything similar?

[Natjur]

When breeding any pets in Ark, any points you put anywhere do nothing.
Its based on the base stats of the dino (as in when it was first tamed)

[Shy]

Originally posted by Natjur:

When breeding any pets in Ark, any points you put anywhere do nothing.
Its based on the base stats of the dino (as in when it was first tamed)

I always felt this was the stupidest thing ever. It really should take from where points are put into it. Even if it took 1 random stat and the others were averaged out would be better than what it is.

[DrathDragoon33]

It'd be way to easy to breed omega god tames with 10k melee after like 3 generations.

[GobboKirk]

Originally posted by Noxmortae:

Originally posted by Natjur:

When breeding any pets in Ark, any points you put anywhere do nothing.
Its based on the base stats of the dino (as in when it was first tamed)

I always felt this was the stupidest thing ever. It really should take from where points are put into it. Even if it took 1 random stat and the others were averaged out would be better than what it is.

Training isn't genetic, if it was we'd save a lot of time in school though :)

[Shy]

Originally posted by DrathDragoon33:

It'd be way to easy to breed omega god tames with 10k melee after like 3 generations.

to combat that, thats why you would only takes a random stat from each or even only one parent. You may have to breed several before you get the one that took the stat you wanted. And put a percentage cap on it. So for instance if a person was to tame a dino, and gave it a 30% increase in speed from what it started with, but have the cap at 20% maximum increase from base is the most increase of a stat it could take for offspring, then you have some level of control over where stats are focused but can't go crazy with it in terms of the next generation. It would still take time and effort to breed what you're looking for but at least you have some way to try and guide it better in that direction.

If it's only ever effected by base stats of when it was tamed then how does breeding really show any level of increase in stats from one gen to the next upon taming a max level dino?

[Natjur]

That is what mutants are for. You can get a baby that has better stats then the parents, but only by 1 extra point (random) and only to a max of 20 points. So it is kind of in game, but again is has nothing do to with the way you 'train' your pet (level it)

This is why all tribe hunt and capture as many L150 dinos can they can and cross breed them to get better stats, cause training means nothing. (until you have a really good base stats)

[DrathDragoon33]

Originally posted by Noxmortae:

Originally posted by DrathDragoon33:

It'd be way to easy to breed omega god tames with 10k melee after like 3 generations.

to combat that, thats why you would only takes a random stat from each or even only one parent. You may have to breed several before you get the one that took the stat you wanted. And put a percentage cap on it. So for instance if a person was to tame a dino, and gave it a 30% increase in speed from what it started with, but have the cap at 20% maximum increase from base is the most increase of a stat it could take for offspring, then you have some level of control over where stats are focused but can't go crazy with it in terms of the next generation. It would still take time and effort to breed what you're looking for but at least you have some way to try and guide it better in that direction.

If it's only ever effected by base stats of when it was tamed then how does breeding really show any level of increase in stats from one gen to the next upon taming a max level dino?

Even with that it would only take about 10 tries to get a god dino.


The current system makes it considerably harder and requires many generations to get a super powerful well breed tame.

[Shy]

I'll have to look into it more and see if it's worth the time. Forgot about mutations as a possibilty. After hearing that leveling them basically was worthless with their stats I stopped bothering with breeding as it seemed more effort then pay off.

[Natjur]

The main reason I always breed dinos, is the 20% bonus stats from imprinting (which you can only get from breeding.) Does not effect the base stats, but it does make the dino 20% more powerfully (and if your the one riding it, you take 33% less damage, and it does 33% more damage, if its a mount dino)

That is worth the time!

[Shy]

Originally posted by Natjur:

The main reason I always breed dinos, is the 20% bonus stats from imprinting (which you can only get from breeding.)

Does that pass on at all? I doubt it does but would be sorta nice if it did. Kinda funny I've been playing this game since last year and never really got into the nit and grit of breeding dinos and what all fully goes into it.

[Natjur]

Originally posted by Noxmortae:

Originally posted by Natjur:

The main reason I always breed dinos, is the 20% bonus stats from imprinting (which you can only get from breeding.)

Does that pass on at all? I doubt it does but would be sorta nice if it did. Kinda funny I've been playing this game since last year and never really got into the nit and grit of breeding dinos and what all fully goes into it.

No it does not effect the base stats, so no it not something you can pass on, but other cross breeding a few generations and getting a good base stats, you can then raise dinos that you want to use and get 100% imprinting.

If you play on an unoffical server, that is using S+ tho, you can make items that take all the hassle out of breeding.

[Shy]

I run my own server with some things increased a little to take out some of the grind. Cause we have a small population and everyone works. But I can never get the imprinting times to match up well with the 3x growth rate. I found a thing online that kinda explained it but couldn't wrap my head around it to well.

[GobboKirk]

Originally posted by Noxmortae:

I run my own server with some things increased a little to take out some of the grind. Cause we have a small population and everyone works. But I can never get the imprinting times to match up well with the 3x growth rate. I found a thing online that kinda explained it but couldn't wrap my head around it to well.

No matter what you do with that there will be some dinos not matching up for 100% imprint.
We're using x10 grow and .25 imprint time I believe, that would be 0.125 now though after last patch.

[Shy]

Originally posted by GobboKirk:

Originally posted by Noxmortae:

I run my own server with some things increased a little to take out some of the grind. Cause we have a small population and everyone works. But I can never get the imprinting times to match up well with the 3x growth rate. I found a thing online that kinda explained it but couldn't wrap my head around it to well.

No matter what you do with that there will be some dinos not matching up for 100% imprint.
We're using x10 grow and .25 imprint time I believe, that would be 0.125 now though after last patch.

Yeah it's hard to get it to match up well. I wish that it scaled properly when you increased growth time. Instead of keeping it seperate like they do and so growth time is increased but it still wants to imprint at the same rate it does with 1x growth.

[Natjur]

If you use the S+ mod (and the nanny in that mod) it will do the imprinting for you. So you do not have to do anything :)
The nanny and the hatchery and hitching post from S+ makes breeding really really easy (too easy, but you can always disable part of it)