!00 turret limit.......

[LEGENDARY TITS]

well.......*right clicks* ark (uninstall) byee

[Al Bundy]

People ♥♥♥♥♥ about everything re: Ark. If you don't like it quit playing and leave. No one needs your goodbye.

The reason for the turret cap is due to the massive performance hit the servers take when there are too may turrets in too small an area. WTF do you want? People ♥♥♥♥♥ about the optimization in the game. Then when WC finds and looks to fix some issues peple ♥♥♥♥♥ about that.

[Mooosie]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[drazan]

Originally posted by Al Bundy:

People ♥♥♥♥♥ about everything re: Ark. If you don't like it quit playing and leave. No one needs your goodbye.

The reason for the turret cap is due to the massive performance hit the servers take when there are too may turrets in too small an area. WTF do you want? People ♥♥♥♥♥ about the optimization in the game. Then when WC finds and looks to fix some issues peple ♥♥♥♥♥ about that.

not only a picture of bundy, but also the mind i see

legacy servers had pvp servers
legacy servers had massive turret bases

somehow, suddenly on the new servers it's an "issue" but on the old ones it never was?
c'mon nyou are smarter than this lol

it only means they broke yet another thing, and instead of fixing they take the easy way out
NERF EVERYTHING
because we spit on balance

[Al Bundy]

Agreed Silky. I whish people would read the threads and be better informed.

[Paroxyde]

100, say, at x4 damage will equate to 400.
You have to make a very small base so that it 25 each side would be close enough to shoot together (=100) and low enough that the roof don't need turrets. Knowing that you can't place plant x or tek turrets as they count in, so no more slowing down.

You can't stop a bronto C4 battering ram.

What is a bronto c4 battering ram? It's a HP bred bronto with a very good platform saddle that has a corridor built as far out as possible from his ass and partitioned to the c4 explosion radius. They stick c4 on the outer most partition and ram it against your wall them blow it, then repeat until all walls are breached or out of partitions.

Now, there is another problem. Where do you store your dinos? Make one pen every 72 foundations with 100 turrets each that can house half a bronto?

Let's say you want to do bosses, alpha ones. You need about 40 dinos, 20 to go, 20+ as breeders.
How do you defend that from a Griffin with an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with flame arrows? Box them in? It would be too big to defend and even a somewhat OK thyla could c4 it through.

Making 40 small boxes with 4000 turrets with 40 feeding trough, 40 generator and 40 bed would be the way.

How about kibble dinos?


Then, there are the first one on the servers that claimed the caves where dinos can't get in and only need 1 wall of turrets. He would have never fit 400 turrets there, but now, he can use 100 heavy ones AND they will have knock back effects against speed c4 runner (which was the only way to breach those base as you get shot at while crawling, specificity of those cave, and then you run to jump over bear traps to c4), which makes those base almost unbreachable. You would have to empty the bullets, which gets a slot buff...

You could compensate bad location with turrets, now, only a few caves would be a good spot, making it easier than before to defend, in which the owner of those cave can breed and use a tek transmitter inside to move his tame in and out, while the rest have a much harder time defending.

[Saint Nyx]

Originally posted by Silky Rough:

Originally posted by drazan:

legacy servers had pvp servers
legacy servers had massive turret bases

Server lag has always been an issue. However, in the FAQ about it, devs specifically stated that players have changed how they're building and it's this that has made the problem worse. Read the dev notes buddy.

Except the developers are very shotsighted and haven't actually looked into the reasoning behind this new turret meta. The reality is that, given the current soaking/stego meta, having this many turrets is necessary to properly defend a base against the constant griefers and wars that are neverending on official. No one wants to have to craft up tens of thousands of turrets and fill them, but given the game's current state, it's what we need to do to survive.

Originally posted by Al Bundy:

Agreed Silky. I whish people would read the threads and be better informed.

I wish the developers would be better informed regarding their own game's PvP meta.

Originally posted by 헬싱:

100, say, at x4 damage will equate to 400.
You have to make a very small base so that it 25 each side would be close enough to shoot together (=100) and low enough that the roof don't need turrets. Knowing that you can't place plant x or tek turrets as they count in, so no more slowing down.

You can't stop a bronto C4 battering ram.

What is a bronto c4 battering ram? It's a HP bred bronto with a very good platform saddle that has a corridor built as far out as possible from his ass and partitioned to the c4 explosion radius. They stick c4 on the outer most partition and ram it against your wall them blow it, then repeat until all walls are breached or out of partitions.

Now, there is another problem. Where do you store your dinos? Make one pen every 72 foundations with 100 turrets each that can house half a bronto?

Let's say you want to do bosses, alpha ones. You need about 40 dinos, 20 to go, 20+ as breeders.
How do you defend that from a Griffin with an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with flame arrows? Box them in? It would be too big to defend and even a somewhat OK thyla could c4 it through.

Making 40 small boxes with 4000 turrets with 40 feeding trough, 40 generator and 40 bed would be the way.

How about kibble dinos?


Then, there are the first one on the servers that claimed the caves where dinos can't get in and only need 1 wall of turrets. He would have never fit 400 turrets there, but now, he can use 100 heavy ones AND they will have knock back effects against speed c4 runner (which was the only way to breach those base as you get shot at while crawling, specificity of those cave, and then you run to jump over bear traps to c4), which makes those base almost unbreachable. You would have to empty the bullets, which gets a slot buff...

You could compensate bad location with turrets, now, only a few caves would be a good spot, making it easier than before to defend, in which the owner of those cave can breed and use a tek transmitter inside to move his tame in and out, while the rest have a much harder time defending.

This is absolutely correct. They need to take their time testing all of these things before they accidentally break PvP completely. The problem with putting out patches like this on the live server in ARK is that if something happens to go wrong or is not balanced properly, it can result in thousands of hours of progress being lost and even more players quitting.

[MikeyMike211]

Originally posted by ✪ PuiYeeYong:

well.......*right clicks* ark (uninstall) byee

Like that's going to hurt anyone, but yourself. But then again, it's your money. :)

[jacob99]

Originally posted by Vesuvious:

Originally posted by Silky Rough:

Might wanna wait to see what the new heavy turrets do maybe?

I dont doubt that they will effect stegos in some way :)

Stegos are getting nerfed.

[Harry Nurpplez]

Originally posted by Ginkawa:

totally reasonable.

you could also try the real game.

you know, on unofficial servers like a normal person.

^THIS.

[Serangel]

I dont get why you would uninstall, unoffical servers will still be able to allow as many turrets as you want.

[-(DunRingill)-]

So now official servers will become less laggy and perform better.

So now the local bully with nearly "untouchable" multiple bases saturating the server -- having unlimited turrets / Godly bred dino's -- will now become easier to raid by smaller tribal enemies.

So now the dominant dictator / griever will have to think twice about making enemies on whim or get hit back.

So now Tribal Alliances & Friendships become even more dependant on helping each other to build / defend / rebuild / share breeding stock ........... to fight against their common enemies.

These things sound good to me. Am I missing something here?

[ToXiN]

Originally posted by Reikon:

Originally posted by Vesuvious:

*i love official pvp.. my base is impregnable!!*....turrets get nerfed....*i hate official pvp... i have to BE there to defend*

No. You clearly do not play official. If you did, you would know that 1000 turrets is the minimum to make a base actually defendable against the kind of pushes that we see regularly. Even with 1000 turrets, dozens of people usually need to be only to push the enemy off of the server.

Yea let the thousands of turrets defend your base. What an awesome official experience.
You must be a pro veteran ark pvp player, seems like you know everything better. :D

[KoolKidMichael]

Thanks for ruining my favorite game. You guys should take down the empty legacy servers and turn them into servers that have this turret change and leave the current new official servers alone. GET YOUR ♥♥♥♥ TOGETHER DEVS! We understand lag and changing gameplay by a lot and for the worse just to lower lag by alittle is NOT worth it. Why did you guys make different servers for notame, primitive plus,...etc but not for this? The only ppl that like this change are the noobs. Maybe if you PLAYED YOUR ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GAME you would understand. If the turrets are rlly the big reason of lag then we put it upon our selves which shows that we choose gameplay over a small change in performance.

[Charnel]

Just uninstall and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off :) un adapting fools

[KoolKidMichael]

Probably play pve or you play solo

Originally posted by Toxus:

Just uninstall and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off :) un adapting fools