Turret changes mega thread.

[Debby Saurus]

Feel free to discuss all your voices about the changes here, but please keep it civil.
All your complaints and feedback will be read and taken into account as long the discussion stays civil.

Thank you :)

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/forums/topic/274823-turret-changes-a-technical-talk-about-why/

[Slordar]

Tell you what this is just a bad month for games. First star wars now this.

[Shacck]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Chief Jones:

Im glad this is happening because it ruins alpha tribes and makes the game more enjoyable for small groups

You havnt thought about this enough if you think this buffs small tribes :-(

It doesnt really do that. The difference between large and small tribes is player uptime.
The large tribe will have 100 turrets + people and the small tribes will have 100 turrets but no people online when getting raided. That is a big deal Having 1k turrets used to be a way for small tribes to be able to withstand offliners but no longer it seems.

[Saint Nyx]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Shacck:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Chief Jones:

Im glad this is happening because it ruins alpha tribes and makes the game more enjoyable for small groups

You havnt thought about this enough if you think this buffs small tribes :-(

It doesnt really do that. The difference between large and small tribes is player uptime.
The large tribe will have 100 turrets + people and the small tribes will have 100 turrets but no people online when getting raided. That is a big deal Having 1k turrets used to be a way for small tribes to be able to withstand offliners but no longer it seems.

He also doesn't seem to realize that all it will do is cause people like me to spread turrets out across an entire biome and block off everything in order to get the turret coverage that's required to have a defendable base on official. If anything, it'll make it worse for all of the bobs. They all thought that the flyer nerf would give them an advantage too. Good luck trying to farm/build/tame when my base is the size of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ country.

[trinity]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Reikon:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Shacck:

You havnt thought about this enough if you think this buffs small tribes :-(

It doesnt really do that. The difference between large and small tribes is player uptime.
The large tribe will have 100 turrets + people and the small tribes will have 100 turrets but no people online when getting raided. That is a big deal Having 1k turrets used to be a way for small tribes to be able to withstand offliners but no longer it seems.

He also doesn't seem to realize that all it will do is cause people like me to spread turrets out across an entire biome and block off everything in order to get the turret coverage that's required to have a defendable base on official. If anything, it'll make it worse for all of the bobs. They all thought that the flyer nerf would give them an advantage too. Good luck trying to farm/build/tame when my base is the size of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ country.

lol so true

[LanceMan]

What I feel this will do is just make tribes grab more and more land around there base. The defences which were compact and limited to a small area will now have to be spread out over huge ranges. The bases now are enormous you dont think mega tribes are not going to just spread out even more or make buildings even taller.

The alpha on my server recently shrunk and left a base to decay near me. With no turrets at all working its the laggiest place on the map from all the buildings and tames just left there.

You really think huge bases spread out over 5xs more land is not going to cause lag???

Whats next a limit to how mnay walls we can build??


This is like seeing your doctor for a cut on your finger and his solution to the problem is to hack off your arm....

[Bambusbjörn]

i and my tribe dont play longer ARK with this ♥♥♥♥ 100 turret limit. Def ist already hard enough

[Slordar]

Początkowo opublikowane przez LanceMan:

What I feel this will do is just make tribes grab more and more land around there base. The defences which were compact and limited to a small area will now have to be spread out over huge ranges. The bases now are enormous you dont think mega tribes are not going to just spread out even more or make buildings even taller.

The alpha on my server recently shrunk and left a base to decay near me. With no turrets at all working its the laggiest place on the map from all the buildings and tames just left there.

You really think huge bases spread out over 5xs more land is not going to cause lag???

Whats next a limit to how mnay walls we can build??


This is like seeing your doctor for a cut on your finger and his solution to the problem is to hack off your arm....

Nice analogy, sums it about up.

[Camway]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Chief Jones:

Im glad this is happening because it ruins alpha tribes and makes the game more enjoyable for small groups

except now no one can get tech everyone will have to rebuild their bases weekly and spend hours re-taming dinos. Gl breeding the 20+ rexes needed to fight bosses or w/e dino you use and if you manage to get tech gl holding onto the element the moment you log off it belongs to someone else.

[123]

UPDATE: As I was waiting for the turret placement glitch to be resolved my base was completely wiped because one side of my base was missing many turrets. Thanks Devs

[MortVent]

wonder how many will use the magic of diplomacy and not being jerks to keep from being wiped..

[Medsuit]

100 turrets lol, i don't think they realize how broken the soaking meta is.
100 turrets u dont even need dinos anymore to raid a big base, just get ur friends a riot shield and walk trough the 'defences' hand in hand, can even sing a song while doing so.

your going about this enitrely wrong!
you think people WANT to place 1000+ turrets are their bases?
no they don't, nobody likes to farm this ♥♥♥♥...
but it is unfortunately the only way to somewhat make a safe base... and even then, in most of the raids turrets are absolutely useless if the enemy comes with some tankers.

buff single turrets, make it so 1 dino cant soak 500 turrets endlessly without effort.
nerf saddle armor, nerf natural dino resistance to gun fire.
make it so turrets penetrate armor, theyr ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ laser guided automated minigun turrets.
it should shred anything that comes in its path, but NO atm they deal a laughable ammount of dmg... its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke.
once its buffed and balanced, so you cant park a pair of dinos infront of somebodys base and get a cup of cofee... only then you can talk about implementing a limmit.

100 turrets? please... why dont you delite them from the game, it will have the same result.

[CLM]

https://youtu.be/q_verY7io5g

Hahahahahahhahahaha

[Wild]

they will soon lower the building cap to compensate and optimization ofc. 6000 structure limit is alot, 500 is enough (600 with turrets). Enjoy the FPS!!! xD xD xD

[drazan]

this is the teaser of the new dlc

ARK: SURVIVAL EVOLVED hobo edition

no buildings, no defense all you have to do is walk around like a homeless hobo
everyone will have 60+ fps unless server 70/70 then it will still be 255 ping and unplayable FOR EVERYONE

[[FuFo] Mortucus]

honestly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ plebs. [/quote]
Lag caused by people building a million turrets. If it's not turrets, prove what's the cause. If I can go on a near empty server and good performance server wise and game wise, then there's
something people are doing [/quote]

a game with nothing in it but a few npc dinos running well is not an optimised game

unless the turrets are fireing all day every day
then the turret number means nothing

large bases do not load in like they should

this game is a mess

the turret changes are stupid


fix the code and optimise the game

its going to be funny when the mass server lag mostly caused buy dupeing and server dino caps
being at maxium is still there

SWG ran better then this and that had 50 planets and 5k players per server building intire citys and towns(THIS GAME CLOSED YEARS AGO)
sandbox gameing in not a new thing