Turtles or doeds

[LubeYoghurt]

So, my tribe and I are planning something, and and argument arose. I've always used turtles for raiding, but someone in my tribe mentioned doeds. Was just wondering, are doeds better than turtles for tanking autos?

[NotNaughty]

as far as i know (good turtles) are better ive tried the doeds but they hold it but died quick.

[LubeYoghurt]

Yeah I though about anks, but we won't be walking them in. Take them up high with the quetzs, and drop 4-6 at a time right on their roof, blow in from the top

[Bignastycupcake]

turtles, doeds can get high health, and their shell provides high enough defense to almost compare with a turtle. but i've done a few raids in the past, maybe 5 or 6, and used turtles to doeds, i used doeds once and the turtles lasted way longer, unless you can get a doed jacked with roids, but other than that i doubt it.

[Harry Napel]

I don't charge into battle with herbivores... they are too slow. Try taming a rex or carno!

[Rattlesnake]

Harry Napel eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't charge into battle with herbivores... they are too slow. Try taming a rex or carno!

carnivores cant take on autos

[LubeYoghurt]

Smittah79 eredeti hozzászólása:

Ilubyoghurt eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah I though about anks, but we won't be walking them in. Take them up high with the quetzs, and drop 4-6 at a time right on their roof, blow in from the top

You and your tribe should read up on base damage.
http://ark.gamepedia.com/Base_Damage

You would need 4 turtles to equal the damage of one ank, and the ank does a push back. On HP they are pretty much on par.

Oh ok, cheers dude, I'll have to do some testing then. It's not the damage I'm after, it's just soaking up this tribes 200+ turrets. A titan will be used, but we want lots of back up just incase the titan rider screws up and looses the titan before we get enough of the turrets drained.

[Rattlesnake]

Smittah79 eredeti hozzászólása:

Rattlesnake eredeti hozzászólása:

carnivores cant take on autos

they can't?

well technically they can but turtles and doeds are used to tank the turret since they have alot of hp/are able to ball up

[Rattlesnake]

Smittah79 eredeti hozzászólása:

Rattlesnake eredeti hozzászólása:

well technically they can but turtles and doeds are used to tank the turret since they have alot of hp/are able to ball up

doeds ball up only, and they are useless in battle when they do. Doeds have 850 base HP, which is higher than Anks 700 base.... but OP is talking about raiding an enemy base, why would you go into battle to only use defense as a strategy? Gotta go in with full offense, break their generators ASAP. Bola their dinos, C4 charge the games, and knock down their walls.

Doeds soak up the dmg so u can raid the base and get the gene

[Kitty]

Smittah79 eredeti hozzászólása:

Rattlesnake eredeti hozzászólása:

well technically they can but turtles and doeds are used to tank the turret since they have alot of hp/are able to ball up

doeds ball up only, and they are useless in battle when they do. Doeds have 850 base HP, which is higher than Anks 700 base.... but OP is talking about raiding an enemy base, why would you go into battle to only use defense as a strategy? Gotta go in with full offense, break their generators ASAP. Bola their dinos, C4 charge the games, and knock down their walls.

He's asking about tanking turrets.....

If mounted -> turtle
If unmounted -> doed, as at 25% hp it curls up and takes an additional 75% reduced damage (used to 100%)

[Jiala]

Smittah79 eredeti hozzászólása:

doeds ball up only, and they are useless in battle when they do. Doeds have 850 base HP, which is higher than Anks 700 base.... but OP is talking about raiding an enemy base, why would you go into battle to only use defense as a strategy? Gotta go in with full offense, break their generators ASAP. Bola their dinos, C4 charge the games, and knock down their walls.

I think you're missing the point here Smittah. See turrets can only have so many bullets, unless a turtle is hit in the head or square in the butt, they take massively reduced damage from all bullets impacting against them. The turtles are sent in as a decoy to empty the turrets before they come in with the main force. All the turtles should be expected to drain all those bullets and most likely most of the turtles will die before the main force arrives.

Ankylos lack the damage reduction of the turtle. The turtle being dropped in is purely sacrificial to empty the turrets. Even plant species X is vulnerable to this tactic, as the plant will eventually run out of fertilizer and die. Once the turrets are drained the mainforce is able to roll in and stomp on every thing as theres no way to refill all those turrets before the main force hits and attacks.

[sal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

guys doed vs. turtle talk is useless.

turtle mass breading is super easy
doed mass breeding not

thats the reason we use turtles even if they are on par ...

[Wardbreaker]

easy enough just use the turtles for bullet draining they can take more then doedicurus's if you want the damage reduction tactic.
or just get a big enough horde of any dinotype and send them in to soak bullets :)
A t-rex with 5k hp soaks some bullets too ^^' even 800 dodo's can help :P , its videocard suicide for most players so its probably an even better tactic then a few turtles because your enemy tribe players wil most likely all get a frozen screen and LAGGGG
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