Is X-Mosa worth the hassle in SP?

[L4DTank101]

Ok so I found a 145 X-Mosasaurus and after shooting it about 35 times with my 200% harpoon gun with tranq bolts, it got to probably around 6 or 7k torpor and then started running away so I chased it and killed some bad guys around the area it ran to. When I started shooting again I scanned it and its torpor had almost completely run out. Is it even worth trying to tame one of these or should I just go straight to a Tusoteuthis?

[moTom]

No offense, but isn't it a bit "cheaty" to do the Boss with auto turrets?
One tusso and 3-4 Mosas seem enough to solo it on gamma and even beta with a few more Mosas.

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Originally posted by moTom:

No offense, but isn't it a bit "cheaty" to do the Boss with auto turrets?
One tusso and 3-4 Mosas seem enough to solo it on gamma and even beta with a few more Mosas.

If your servers give you the option use it lol. also why should I fall behind when everyone else does it too?

[moTom]

Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

Originally posted by moTom:

No offense, but isn't it a bit "cheaty" to do the Boss with auto turrets?
One tusso and 3-4 Mosas seem enough to solo it on gamma and even beta with a few more Mosas.

If your servers give you the option use it lol. also why should I fall behind when everyone else does it too?

Fair point :)

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by moTom:

No offense, but isn't it a bit "cheaty" to do the Boss with auto turrets?
One tusso and 3-4 Mosas seem enough to solo it on gamma and even beta with a few more Mosas.

Not to even mention the sheer cost of the contraption, the ammo cost etc.
Seems a lot cheaper to me to just tame or breed a expandable army like for all other bosses.

That said, a turret platform is still a lot more fun and potentially funnier ... so there is at least that :-)

[moTom]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Originally posted by moTom:

No offense, but isn't it a bit "cheaty" to do the Boss with auto turrets?
One tusso and 3-4 Mosas seem enough to solo it on gamma and even beta with a few more Mosas.

Not to even mention the sheer cost of the contraption, the ammo cost etc.
Seems a lot cheaper to me to just tame or breed a expandable army like for all other bosses.

That said, a turret platform is still a lot more fun and potentially funnier ... so there is at least that :-)

I think it´s just a time factor, one 160+ Mosa can be found pretty fast and ammo is no problem since there are tons and tons of metal on Genesis.
Also if your server doesn´t have high breeding rates it can be a pain to breed, feed and imprint Mosas. And you have to find and tame (~300 tranq arrows and 2 crossbows per mosa) several, so i can "understand" why people choose the "easy" turret way if it´s enabled on the server.

(however i wouldn´t enable it on my server cause a) moving turrets cause lag especially if the whole server uses them and b) it´s way to easy and also "op" imo even on PVE)

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Originally posted by moTom:

No offense, but isn't it a bit "cheaty" to do the Boss with auto turrets?
One tusso and 3-4 Mosas seem enough to solo it on gamma and even beta with a few more Mosas.

Not to even mention the sheer cost of the contraption, the ammo cost etc.
Seems a lot cheaper to me to just tame or breed a expandable army like for all other bosses.

That said, a turret platform is still a lot more fun and potentially funnier ... so there is at least that :-)

Expensive for Tek Platform. Eh yes and no. Volcano has the ammo (Element Shards) and all the metal. Is it worth it?

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You tell me lol

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Originally posted by moTom:

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Not to even mention the sheer cost of the contraption, the ammo cost etc.
Seems a lot cheaper to me to just tame or breed a expandable army like for all other bosses.

That said, a turret platform is still a lot more fun and potentially funnier ... so there is at least that :-)

I think it´s just a time factor, one 160+ Mosa can be found pretty fast and ammo is no problem since there are tons and tons of metal on Genesis.
Also if your server doesn´t have high breeding rates it can be a pain to breed, feed and imprint Mosas. And you have to find and tame (~300 tranq arrows and 2 crossbows per mosa) several, so i can "understand" why people choose the "easy" turret way if it´s enabled on the server.

(however i wouldn´t enable it on my server cause a) moving turrets cause lag especially if the whole server uses them and b) it´s way to easy and also "op" imo even on PVE)

Well the server I'm on is PvE with PvP weekends. We also have a rule that you can use Platform Turret Dinos but you must dismantle them after you finish using them. Sometimes people dont follow that rule and wonder why an Admin/Mod dismantled their dino and put the mats in a box next to it lol!

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by moTom:

I think it´s just a time factor, one 160+ Mosa can be found pretty fast and ammo is no problem since there are tons and tons of metal on Genesis.
Also if your server doesn´t have high breeding rates it can be a pain to breed, feed and imprint Mosas. And you have to find and tame (~300 tranq arrows and 2 crossbows per mosa) several, so i can "understand" why people choose the "easy" turret way if it´s enabled on the server.

(however i wouldn´t enable it on my server cause a) moving turrets cause lag especially if the whole server uses them and b) it´s way to easy and also "op" imo even on PVE)

OP is playing on SP, witch is the context im thinking in to begin with, in witch case breeding settings are likely to be boosted to begin with same thing for taming. There are also other options then just mosa's, for the lower difficulties on SP anyways.

Meaning that with S+ you can easily carry around a taming trap, making taming on the map itself really easy.

And since we are pulling out all stops now anyways, with enabling turrets on platforms and extending the build limit on them to get this working properly, why not just transfer dino's in considering it's SP to begin with.

Witch would open up more combinations for higher difficulties of the fight, i'm rather confident my sharks will eat moeder with hardly any effort on any difficulty.

Again not saying turrets aren't more fun, but we are drifting so far off-topic from the OP's initial question with so many loop holes, that its getting a bit bizare.

[moTom]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Originally posted by moTom:

I think it´s just a time factor, one 160+ Mosa can be found pretty fast and ammo is no problem since there are tons and tons of metal on Genesis.
Also if your server doesn´t have high breeding rates it can be a pain to breed, feed and imprint Mosas. And you have to find and tame (~300 tranq arrows and 2 crossbows per mosa) several, so i can "understand" why people choose the "easy" turret way if it´s enabled on the server.

(however i wouldn´t enable it on my server cause a) moving turrets cause lag especially if the whole server uses them and b) it´s way to easy and also "op" imo even on PVE)

OP is playing on SP, witch is the context im thinking in to begin with, in witch case breeding settings are likely to be boosted to begin with same thing for taming. There are also other options then just mosa's, for the lower difficulties on SP anyways.

Meaning that with S+ you can easily carry around a taming trap, making taming on the map itself really easy.

And since we are pulling out all stops now anyways, with enabling turrets on platforms and extending the build limit on them to get this working properly, why not just transfer dino's in considering it's SP to begin with.

Witch would open up more combinations for higher difficulties of the fight, i'm rather confident my sharks will eat moeder with hardly any effort on any difficulty.

Again not saying turrets aren't more fun, but we are drifting so far off-topic from the OP's initial question with so many loop holes, that its getting a bit bizare.

My post was acutally referring to dragonrider1000 and his post/his dedicated server, should have made that clearer :)

For your shark theorie: I hardly doubt that you can beat moeder with just Megas, maybe on gamma but at least on alpha you just can´t.
Even with 100% imprint and asc saddle alpha moeder will shred through your sharks in no time you just can´t level that much health and/or damage into a Megalodon like you can do with Basi or Mosa.
Not talking about the minion eels which will drastly reduce your dps output when electricuted (best choice imo here is tusso cause you can keep a little distance while killing them)

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by moTom:

My post was acutally referring to dragonrider1000 and his post/his dedicated server, should have made that clearer :)

For your shark theorie: I hardly doubt that you can beat moeder with just Megas, maybe on gamma but at least on alpha you just can´t.
Even with 100% imprint and asc saddle alpha moeder will shred through your sharks in no time you just can´t level that much health and/or damage into a Megalodon like you can do with Basi or Mosa.
Not talking about the minion eels which will drastly reduce your dps output when electricuted (best choice imo here is tusso cause you can keep a little distance while killing them)

The entire reply was directed at both, not just you :)

Yeah my shark opinion was a skewed, for some reason the one i was looking at had it's health pumped and i dint notice. So instead of having an easy 20-30k health, that idea kinda when down the drain quickly lol

Just out of curiosity though, since it might concern the topic at hand even, would basils take depth dmg during the fight (have not been to the area myself yet) ?

The seem like a very cheap option if not tbh, while tuso's are also great, there quite a bit more ticky to tame. Even when compared to mosa's, the basil seems to have a more generous health.

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Originally posted by moTom:

My post was acutally referring to dragonrider1000 and his post/his dedicated server, should have made that clearer :)

For your shark theorie: I hardly doubt that you can beat moeder with just Megas, maybe on gamma but at least on alpha you just can´t.
Even with 100% imprint and asc saddle alpha moeder will shred through your sharks in no time you just can´t level that much health and/or damage into a Megalodon like you can do with Basi or Mosa.
Not talking about the minion eels which will drastly reduce your dps output when electricuted (best choice imo here is tusso cause you can keep a little distance while killing them)

The entire reply was directed at both, not just you :)

Yeah my shark opinion was a skewed, for some reason the one i was looking at had it's health pumped and i dint notice. So instead of having an easy 20-30k health, that idea kinda when down the drain quickly lol

Just out of curiosity though, since it might concern the topic at hand even, would basils take depth dmg during the fight (have not been to the area myself yet) ?

The seem like a very cheap option if not tbh, while tuso's are also great, there quite a bit more ticky to tame. Even when compared to mosa's, the basil seems to have a more generous health.

Basil do take depth damage in the Moeder fight but it's not an extreme amount. Also you have to ride them as their AI gets super confused in there.

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

Basil do take depth damage in the Moeder fight but it's not an extreme amount. Also you have to ride them as their AI gets super confused in there.

Seems more AI testing is required, but i do now recall reading that in another topic yeah.

So that would make the Tuso and Mosa the only really viable options then, considering x-dunky's are likely in the same boat as sharks and would be worse to tame then a x-mosa i recon ... dang dunky's and there resistance (>_<)

And maybe plesi's .... considering that much like the tuso there not only spawning in a X variant. Don't recall them being that great though, so proll not worth it for the boss fight, but should be a lot easier to tame because its not a X variant.

Long story short, unless the Basil AI is going to get fixed (if its even a bug), i would skip the x-mosa taming and just go for Tuso's then (if wanting to only use dino's).
Making x-mosa's not really worth there time and effort in SP imo :-)

[Charcharodonto]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

Basil do take depth damage in the Moeder fight but it's not an extreme amount. Also you have to ride them as their AI gets super confused in there.

Seems more AI testing is required, but i do now recall reading that in another topic yeah.

So that would make the Tuso and Mosa the only really viable options then, considering x-dunky's are likely in the same boat as sharks and would be worse to tame then a x-mosa i recon ... dang dunky's and there resistance (>_<)

And maybe plesi's .... considering that much like the tuso there not only spawning in a X variant. Don't recall them being that great though, so proll not worth it for the boss fight, but should be a lot easier to tame because its not a X variant.

Long story short, unless the Basil AI is going to get fixed (if its even a bug), i would skip the x-mosa taming and just go for Tuso's then (if wanting to only use dino's).
Making x-mosa's not really worth there time and effort in SP imo :-)

for gamma sharks and dunkies will work, especially with good saddles.

For beta and up definatly Mosas, Tusos, plesios, mega turtles and i quess ridden basilos.

When ridden a mega turtle with good stats can actually pump out a lot of DPS

[Silke]

The beauty of SP is, that the only things worth the hassle are the ones you consider to be so. If you hate taming a mosa but enjoy swimming around to find a good one, you can use forcetame. If you just want one for a boss fight but have no interest in the taming process, spawn a tamed one. And if it is important to you to play everything fair and square, build a trap.