Ragnarok boss advice plz

[Sketchazoid]

My wife and I are about to take on the Ragnarok boss arena, and we have 45H/43M Therizinos (still working on a saddle BP though). Got a few questions though...

1. Is it true that Therzinos are recommended over Rexes? I have 50/50 Rexes (still no saddle BP)

2. What would the recommended amount of health and melee be for Therzinos or Rexes?

3. Is a Daeodon mandatory? If so best food? Been making basic kibble.

4. Been getting conflicting information about the flame attack on the Dragon, is it percent based of dino health? If so does that mean my 100K+ Health Rexes will get obliterated before say a 30K Health Rex?

[JimmyTheSaint™]

A few buddies and I did the Alpha boss arena with Rexes one Yut and 4 players. 1 rode the Yut and issued wistles to the Rexes and the other 3 players were on the ground and used high damage assault rifles to get the DPS. We did lose a few Rexes but they werent amazing rexes to begin with.

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by JimmyTheSaint™:

A few buddies and I did the Alpha boss arena with Rexes one Yut and 4 players. 1 rode the Yut and issued wistles to the Rexes and the other 3 players were on the ground and used high damage assault rifles to get the DPS. We did lose a few Rexes but they werent amazing rexes to begin with.

Did you have anything higher than primitive saddles for the Rexes? Also what were their stats? I have ran Ice Cave probably 30+ times and can't for the life of me get Rex saddles let alone BP's.
Also hitting beacons in between. Working on getting better at the Jungle Dungeon. I've only done it once.

[RancidRevenant]

me and 2 tribe mates took on the alpha dragon on island using 46 health, 48 melee theriz.

The dragon's flame attack is indeed percentage based. so higher hp dinos will get more health sapped away. But in the ragnarok arena the good news is. Dragon supposely takes 3x greater damage to offset the difficulty of fighting 2 bosses at the same time.

The reason why theriz are recommended over rex is because they can benefit from veggie cake. A item that can heal 10 percent of hp to a max of 2100. (so only give your theriz 21k hp, rest into melee afterwards)

A daeodon can ease the pain a fair bit. any kibble besides superior (superior will give 120 i think) will provide 95 food points. Mutton/prime (cooked or raw) will provide 50 food points but they provide "some" hp to the boar when it eats mutton/prime.

as for saddle armor you tend to want to get 100 armor points or above.

[Sketchazoid]

Thanks RancidRevenant that was very insightful. Seems the saddles is the last obstacle before taking on the boss. We got a Yuty saddle BP, and even though it's Ascendant it's only 96 armor. Suppose I could mindwipe, put all points into crafting skill and raise that number some.

Anyways, thanks again. Very informative.

[RancidRevenant]

Originally posted by Sketchazoid:

Thanks RancidRevenant that was very insightful. Seems the saddles is the last obstacle before taking on the boss. We got a Yuty saddle BP, and even though it's Ascendant it's only 96 armor. Suppose I could mindwipe, put all points into crafting skill and raise that number some.

Anyways, thanks again. Very informative.

Np. Just try to send the army at the dragon's back side if possible so most of them can avoid the flame blast. i wish ya good luck!

[JimmyTheSaint™]

Originally posted by Sketchazoid:

Originally posted by JimmyTheSaint™:

A few buddies and I did the Alpha boss arena with Rexes one Yut and 4 players. 1 rode the Yut and issued wistles to the Rexes and the other 3 players were on the ground and used high damage assault rifles to get the DPS. We did lose a few Rexes but they werent amazing rexes to begin with.

Did you have anything higher than primitive saddles for the Rexes? Also what were their stats? I have ran Ice Cave probably 30+ times and can't for the life of me get Rex saddles let alone BP's.
Also hitting beacons in between. Working on getting better at the Jungle Dungeon. I've only done it once.

Its been a while but I think we had primitive saddles and about 30k hp on the Rexes. Thats why we had 3 or 4 of us with high damage assault rifles to get enough DPS before our Rexes were all killed.

Ive soloed the Beta Ragnarock arena with 25k hp Rexes and I was riding a Yut, but I had asendant lvl saddles. Still lost a handful of the Rexes.

[Charcharodonto]

Originally posted by Sketchazoid:

My wife and I are about to take on the Ragnarok boss arena, and we have 45H/43M Therizinos (still working on a saddle BP though). Got a few questions though...

1. Is it true that Therzinos are recommended over Rexes? I have 50/50 Rexes (still no saddle BP)

2. What would the recommended amount of health and melee be for Therzinos or Rexes?

3. Is a Daeodon mandatory? If so best food? Been making basic kibble.

4. Been getting conflicting information about the flame attack on the Dragon, is it percent based of dino health? If so does that mean my 100K+ Health Rexes will get obliterated before say a 30K Health Rex?

1. Therizinos are recommended for the dragon bossfight on the island, because of having good dps and the benefit of veggie cakes.

The ragnarok dragon takes like 3 times increased damage so most bosscapable dinos can shred it before it's firebreath becomes problematic

2. Theri's is around 21-24k hp and the rest in damage for the Island dragon bossfight, due to dps being very important and another reason that comes at point 4

Rexes depends on the bossfight, broodmother is nice to have more health, same with overseer i believe so 40-50k for those, for dragon 30k is enough and rest in damage.

3. Daeodon isn't madatory for the theris, it is better to havbe if you go vs the dragon with rexes, also depends on wether it is gamma or alpha, higher difficulty it can be better to have one

4. The dragon's firebreath attack burns away 20% of a creatures or players health over it's duration of 10 seconds. Hence why leveling a theri's health higher then 21k isn't worth it because the cakes heal 10% of a creatures health, but to a max of 2100 hp, which is then 10% of the theri's health.

A 100k health rex gets the same 20% health burned away, so it loses 20k per firebreath. the 30k rex loses 6k health. If only the firebreath is considered they would both die at pretty much the same time.

Now the dragon also dishes out melee damage and there are adds in the fight. So having some health is not bad. However you need to prioritize dps over health when it comes to the dragon.

[Sketchazoid]

Also very informative Charcharodonto. Damn I am learning so much. Thanks guys!!! Now, anyone know the best method to get a Rex or Therizino saddle BP? Cause Ice Cave ain't working. Having the worst RNG. Is there a better map for this task?

[Charcharodonto]

Originally posted by Sketchazoid:

Also very informative Charcharodonto. Damn I am learning so much. Thanks guys!!! Now, anyone know the best method to get a Rex or Therizino saddle BP? Cause Ice Cave ain't working. Having the worst RNG. Is there a better map for this task?

Desert loot drops, ocean loot drops red beacon hunting are the ones i know off

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by Charcharodonto:

Originally posted by Sketchazoid:

Also very informative Charcharodonto. Damn I am learning so much. Thanks guys!!! Now, anyone know the best method to get a Rex or Therizino saddle BP? Cause Ice Cave ain't working. Having the worst RNG. Is there a better map for this task?

Desert loot drops, ocean loot drops red beacon hunting are the ones i know off

Desert loot drops won't ever give you Rex saddles I know that for a fact. However not sure on Therizino saddles. My wife has an outpost in the desert where she spends most her time. She generally hits them up once an hour. Great for riot armor, fabricated weapons, grinding saddles for resources, and scuba gear.

[Sketchazoid]

Ragnarok desert drops borrow from The Island Deep Sea drop table.
https://ark.gamepedia.com/Loot_Tables/The_Island/Deep_Sea

At least on Ragnarok, my only real options for Rex saddles is beacons, ice cave, jungle dungeon. The desert cave is too much of a pain the rear end to be a viable option for loot.

Was hoping that with some of the later expansions there was a more effective method of getting higher tier loot, such as the Extinction drop pods you have to protect.

[Patouski]

Yeah, I think the methods to get Rex saddle BP on Ragnarok have been nerfed for a little bit now (used to be the Lava Golem farming method, or the Desert / Deep Sea crates).

They do fall from Red Drops on Valguero, albeit not Ascendant (unless you modded the drop quality multiplier), but I think the Red Drops are still giving out Rex Saddles / BP on most maps, although it's complete RNG.

I know I got a Journey one from a Red drop on Valguero on my server, so...

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by Patouski:

Yeah, I think the methods to get Rex saddle BP on Ragnarok have been nerfed for a little bit now (used to be the Lava Golem farming method, or the Desert / Deep Sea crates).

They do fall from Red Drops on Valguero, albeit not Ascendant (unless you modded the drop quality multiplier), but I think the Red Drops are still giving out Rex Saddles / BP on most maps, although it's complete RNG.

I know I got a Journey one from a Red drop on Valguero on my server, so...

I have loot quality set to 3 (which might be a tad high honestly, just felt vanilla rates were a little too grindy for just two people), but we're headed to Extinction now with Giga's and Rexes to take on orbital supply drops and tame some Gacha's in the process.

[𝔇ave]

Originally posted by Sketchazoid:

Originally posted by Patouski:

Yeah, I think the methods to get Rex saddle BP on Ragnarok have been nerfed for a little bit now (used to be the Lava Golem farming method, or the Desert / Deep Sea crates).

They do fall from Red Drops on Valguero, albeit not Ascendant (unless you modded the drop quality multiplier), but I think the Red Drops are still giving out Rex Saddles / BP on most maps, although it's complete RNG.

I know I got a Journey one from a Red drop on Valguero on my server, so...

I have loot quality set to 3 (which might be a tad high honestly, just felt vanilla rates were a little too grindy for just two people), but we're headed to Extinction now with Giga's and Rexes to take on orbital supply drops and tame some Gacha's in the process.

beware the red and purple orbital drops.. you need some pretty OP dinos to take them on. I'm sure you are already aware but the purple drops don't have a wave limit. recommend taking a snow owl to heal your dinos when you get the chance. the last few wave enemies typically get stuck somewhere which gives you a chance to heal up before they despawn and the next wave starts. personally i really like doing the orbital drops on extinction. probably my favourite map really

[Serangel]

Either one is capable so take which ever is stronger with saddles.

Bring gas masks, stimulants, and shotguns or fab snipers.

Kill dragon first, usually one or two lands. Then work on manticore. Manticore doesn't like to land so bring plenty of guns and ammo. Use stims to wake up any tames that get knocked out. The gas masks will protect players from it. Bring a few of those as well as guns in case they break.

Hardest part of the fight is killing manticore because of it not wanting to land.