Baby Rex Care Is Backbreaking

[Sir Weebsalot]

I've spent 6 hours caring for this baby rex and it's at 6% maturity. I find that to be way too slow, so I want to change some settings however I just wanted to make sure that I understand what they mean. First, I want to change how long it takes for the baby to mature. I'm assuming the higher the value under "Baby Maturity Speed" the faster the process goes. Also if I want to slow down the baby's food consumption (as in make it eat less food in x amount of time), I should change the "Baby Food Consumption" setting to something below 1. Do I have everything correct, or am I misunderstanding how the settings work?

[JDaremo Fireheart]

the settings are tricky. I can give you the settings for 5x because that is what we use.
The hardest part if getting the Cuddle Interval just right so it balances across all the different species. one setting might be good for a rex, but a jerboa or some other smaller creature someone else wants to breed may come up short or time way too long. took us a week of trying different settings to get it close enough.
Do Not change the baby food coonsumption, that could end up going badly like your rex eating 10x what it should and starving by the time you come back to fill the trough. Or starving before you even have a chance to open the inventory after initial imprint.

[JDaremo Fireheart]

Here are the settings we use for 5x maturation:
Hatching & Maturation 5.0
Cuddle Interval 0.49
Cuddle Grace 3.0

[=Sarsante=]

You're right. Just remember if you increase maturation you should decrease cuddle interval or you wont be able to get 100% imprint.

What I do is if maturation is 2, cuddle would be 0.45, maturations 4, cuddle 0.2.

Its the same proportion but I add a little bonus to be safe.

[JDaremo Fireheart]

Originally posted by =T$ECore= Sarsante:

You're right. Just remember if you increase maturation you should decrease cuddle interval or you wont be able to get 100% imprint.

What I do is if maturation is 2, cuddle would be 0.45, maturations 4, cuddle 0.2.

Its the same proportion but I add a little bonus to be safe.

Those settings are good if you are only breeding one species of dino.

[Sir Weebsalot]

Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:

Originally posted by =T$ECore= Sarsante:

You're right. Just remember if you increase maturation you should decrease cuddle interval or you wont be able to get 100% imprint.

What I do is if maturation is 2, cuddle would be 0.45, maturations 4, cuddle 0.2.

Its the same proportion but I add a little bonus to be safe.

Those settings are good if you are only breeding one species of dino.

I'm still not understanding why it would break breeding for other dinos. Could you elaborate on what part would be broken for other dinos if I changed the settings?

[=Sarsante=]

personally I think it wont break if you use the same ratios like I said with some security margin.

but thats just in theory ofc

what I most like in the game is breeding and taming so Ive superfast settings, maturation on my dedicated server is 60x, that would make impossible to cuddle or I literally couldnt do anything while they grow.

my solution was premium baby care mod so you can make a kibble that gives it to the baby 100% imprint. Feels like cheating but some stuff in this game is just way too much time demanding and Ive a life I can play like 4 hours a day during week days.

So my settings are:

mating: 0.001
hatch 100
mature 60
food 1
imprint scale 1
cuddle interval 5 (I use the mod as I said)
cuddle grace 20
cuddle lose 0

[JDaremo Fireheart]

Originally posted by Morsamer:

Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:

Those settings are good if you are only breeding one species of dino.

I'm still not understanding why it would break breeding for other dinos. Could you elaborate on what part would be broken for other dinos if I changed the settings?

say you set it up perfectly for your rex babies, with the maturation timer and getting 100% imprint ending almost at the same time.
Then your friend goes and breeds horse (cause they have excellent weight reductions in alchemy ingredient hauling) and his 100% imprint is 30min faster than the maturations timer. No big deal, right?
Now say you want to go breed a quetz (bigger ambition than a rex (7days vanilla)). everythign is going fine until you get to about 50% maturation and you find out your maturation timier is going to run out long before you get to 100% imprint.
That is what I'm talking about.

[JDaremo Fireheart]

those settings I gave you weren't tested with large breeds like rexes . . . yet. we were doing Thyla, Horses, and Ovis at the time and it was running with 90min cuddle timers and ending just about even. On the new map we haven't progressed enough to try the bigger breeds but I have a couple Allo eggs and a couple Quetz eggs I was going to try it with.


Edit: Give me some time and I'll get the settings from a friend for 15x (quetz are 1/7 the maturation time on 15x)

[Cobretti]

There is a spreadhseet you can use to work out the correct cuddle interval to ensure that on average, you can get 100% imprint on every dino species.

I say on average here because the cuddle interval is a range and if you get bad RNG, you could hit the max cuddle time (4 hours in vanilla) multiple times and come up short on imprints.

Info and link about spreadsheet in this thread

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/forums/topic/77238-change-imprinting-percentage/#comment-446962

OP vanilla Rex breeding isn't back breaking but it appears you are sitting there watching the baby dino which you should never do, even on multipliers. Put it in stasis as much as you can.

Edit: FYI I use 8x mature with cuddle interval of 0.4 based on that spreadsheet and it works fine.

[=Sarsante=]

Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:

those settings I gave you weren't tested with large breeds like rexes . . . yet. we were doing Thyla, Horses, and Ovis at the time and it was running with 90min cuddle timers and ending just about even. On the new map we haven't progressed enough to try the bigger breeds but I have a couple Allo eggs and a couple Quetz eggs I was going to try it with.


Edit: Give me some time and I'll get the settings from a friend for 15x (quetz are 1/7 the maturation time on 15x)

I did test with rexes, im breeding them for stats mutations, but as I said with this cuddle interval.its only possible imprint them with the mod.

With the mid sgould work on anything.

Even the ratios, if 2x maturation is twice as fast and cuddle intercal 0.5 is also twice as fast should work with any species if you set up right with a little margin. 2x faster is twice doesnt matter for what, if 1 and 1 works any ratio put correctly should work aswell.

Edi: unless it has some bad coding in the game like 2x the game understands as 2.2x or 0.5 it understands 1.9x

Edit2: try 15x and 0.05 because 1/15 is 0.066, if you want be even safer 0.045

[JDaremo Fireheart]

Originally posted by =T$ECore= Sarsante:

Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:

those settings I gave you weren't tested with large breeds like rexes . . . yet. we were doing Thyla, Horses, and Ovis at the time and it was running with 90min cuddle timers and ending just about even. On the new map we haven't progressed enough to try the bigger breeds but I have a couple Allo eggs and a couple Quetz eggs I was going to try it with.


Edit: Give me some time and I'll get the settings from a friend for 15x (quetz are 1/7 the maturation time on 15x)

I did test with rexes, im breeding them for stats mutations, but as I said with this cuddle interval.its only possible imprint them with the mod.

With the mid sgould work on anything.

Even the ratios, if 2x maturation is twice as fast and cuddle intercal 0.5 is also twice as fast should work with any species if you set up right with a little margin. 2x faster is twice doesnt matter for what, if 1 and 1 works any ratio put correctly should work aswell.

Edi: unless it has some bad coding in the game like 2x the game understands as 2.2x or 0.5 it understands 1.9x

Edit2: try 15x and 0.05 because 1/15 is 0.066, if you want be even safer 0.045

Wow, 60x on your server? Way too fast man, even for stat breeding.
Oh, and I hope you are still going out and getting wild 150s to put in the bloodlines. Lord only knows when they'll bring in the negative mutations from inbreeding or if they'll make the retroactive or only on new breeds.

[=Sarsante=]

Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:

Originally posted by =T$ECore= Sarsante:

I did test with rexes, im breeding them for stats mutations, but as I said with this cuddle interval.its only possible imprint them with the mod.

With the mid sgould work on anything.

Even the ratios, if 2x maturation is twice as fast and cuddle intercal 0.5 is also twice as fast should work with any species if you set up right with a little margin. 2x faster is twice doesnt matter for what, if 1 and 1 works any ratio put correctly should work aswell.

Edi: unless it has some bad coding in the game like 2x the game understands as 2.2x or 0.5 it understands 1.9x

Edit2: try 15x and 0.05 because 1/15 is 0.066, if you want be even safer 0.045

Wow, 60x on your server? Way too fast man, even for stat breeding.
Oh, and I hope you are still going out and getting wild 150s to put in the bloodlines. Lord only knows when they'll bring in the negative mutations from inbreeding or if they'll make the retroactive or only on new breeds.

So far my bloodline has 3 mutations, 2 on hp and 1 on dmg. I breed the mutated ones with the original parents that are 0/0. So all mutations are desired ones :D

I can link you a video explaining the methodology behind that.

[JDaremo Fireheart]

one of my players was doing that for Thyla. got some good stat mutations as well . . . and a green belly that didn't come up as a mutation

[=Sarsante=]

Oh cool, im saving some colored rexes too, with them im not caring about stats just how they look.

Just got a full radioactive green, I already had couple but the stuff on their back was black then I got luck and got a different one with only the back green. Out them together and got lucky on my first try

[xxkaikaifilu]

And this is why we shouldn't have kids :P