ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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Lord Vader Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:17am
Shouldn't be able to block a supply drop.
Server gets zerged, Ok. Lost my whole base, Ok. Can't transfer my toon because all obi's are blocked and they built metal fondations at supply drops so they can't be accessed, not ok.

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Scooby Doo (Banned) Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:19am 
Send in a ticket to WC. They have a system in place where things like this are handled by one person. THough things i read in order recieved I did get an answer within the day I put in my ticket. Make sure to include screenshot evidence and the server number. I am sure it will be taken care of within a day or so. Remember if WC dont know they can not correct the issue.
Hariwin Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:23am 
There's two sides to this. On one hand it's out of order because freedom to roam and loot drops is blocked. But on the other hand, the overpowered massive tribes that have been a problem in the past can now in theory port an entire Base over to a server with dinos and wipe it. So the only logical survival tactic to Road block the risk is to try and lock the server.

It's sucks and I hope the devs find a way to alter the situation and find a middle ground, but right now every tribe that sleeps or has jobs to go to could be very quickly wiped without any warning or chance to defend themselves.

At least before you knew what the risks were in the server because you could track development. Now it could happen with no knowledge anyone was even coming.
Last edited by Hariwin; Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:25am
Darkholis Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:25am 
Blocking beacons & obelisks is the ONLY way smaller tribes can hope to survive massive zerg tribes. You have to adapt to survive.

Regards.
Idon Uner Stan Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:27am 
thank the chinese hackers and alpha tribes and wc for letting them run rampant and ruin an awsome gg
Havond Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:27am 
In my opinion loot drops should only have character transfer functionality and leave the uploading/downloading to the obs. There would be no reason for tribes to block all the drops then, only securing and fortying obelisks to fend off off server attack
Scooby Doo (Banned) Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:57am 
No matter what you say or how you look at it there are rules in place against this. Sadly that is all that matters here. You want others to play fair but yet the same people will go against the rules. So to prevent a crime the solution is to commit a crime yourself? That is not the way. WC has created a bigger issue than ever. With Monday around the corner yeah many will come back from work and school and be angry. If you try to block these things you are subject to ban or being wiped by WC. If you dont then you still stand to be wiped. However if you place proper defenses and use what is given to you atleast if you loose you went down fighting. Then after the fact start some type of movement like was done to wipe the servers. Though that thread became a joke in the end because of a few. That does not mean it had no value. Two wrongs will never make a right. You can not break rules and try to say it is right. That is equal to killing someone in real life and then trying to say you knew they would kill you so you did it first.
Conqueeftad0r Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by Dawg711:
No matter what you say or how you look at it there are rules in place against this. Sadly that is all that matters here. You want others to play fair but yet the same people will go against the rules. So to prevent a crime the solution is to commit a crime yourself? That is not the way. WC has created a bigger issue than ever. With Monday around the corner yeah many will come back from work and school and be angry. If you try to block these things you are subject to ban or being wiped by WC. If you dont then you still stand to be wiped. However if you place proper defenses and use what is given to you atleast if you loose you went down fighting. Then after the fact start some type of movement like was done to wipe the servers. Though that thread became a joke in the end because of a few. That does not mean it had no value. Two wrongs will never make a right. You can not break rules and try to say it is right. That is equal to killing someone in real life and then trying to say you knew they would kill you so you did it first.
there is nothing in the official server guidelines preventing the blocking of loot beacons. only player spawns. its not breaking any rules.
Darkholis Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Dawg711:
No matter what you say or how you look at it there are rules in place against this. Sadly that is all that matters here. You want others to play fair but yet the same people will go against the rules. So to prevent a crime the solution is to commit a crime yourself? That is not the way. WC has created a bigger issue than ever. With Monday around the corner yeah many will come back from work and school and be angry. If you try to block these things you are subject to ban or being wiped by WC. If you dont then you still stand to be wiped. However if you place proper defenses and use what is given to you atleast if you loose you went down fighting. Then after the fact start some type of movement like was done to wipe the servers. Though that thread became a joke in the end because of a few. That does not mean it had no value. Two wrongs will never make a right. You can not break rules and try to say it is right. That is equal to killing someone in real life and then trying to say you knew they would kill you so you did it first.

Blocking player spawn points is a banneable offense, but restraining access to obelisks/beacons is not on official PvP servers.

Besides, the strong and intelligent survives while the dumb and weak dies. If big tribes are coming here to cry about smaller tribes blocking obelisks/beacons, maybe they should reevaluate their strategy for raiding.

Regards.
Scooby Doo (Banned) Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:11am 
Well I stand corrected they edited the rules since the beginning. Still it is a game breaking act. If I am playing on your server or want to you are keeping me from things that are meant for the whole server not just you. THis is a MULTI Player game not a game for ONE. So if it were me I would still report you. The rules are subject to change at anytime at the descretion of the GM. So beware. Does the offical servers not use the Offline protection that they developed? If so then how do you get wiped when you are no online? Seems silly to create something and then not use it on the offical servers. I know it is turned on with my server. Seen it work on other servers. Offical server though are home of those that dont play this game you live this game. It is a game if you loose then you pick back up and start again.
Darkholis Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by Dawg711:
Well I stand corrected they edited the rules since the beginning. Still it is a game breaking act. If I am playing on your server or want to you are keeping me from things that are meant for the whole server not just you. THis is a MULTI Player game not a game for ONE. So if it were me I would still report you. The rules are subject to change at anytime at the descretion of the GM. So beware. Does the offical servers not use the Offline protection that they developed? If so then how do you get wiped when you are no online? Seems silly to create something and then not use it on the offical servers. I know it is turned on with my server. Seen it work on other servers. Offical server though are home of those that dont play this game you live this game. It is a game if you loose then you pick back up and start again.

Only very specific servers are flagged with the ORP. Most of the officials are not.

As for game breaking act. I simply think that's a cleaver solution and most likely the ONLY way you can prevent massive invasions from entitled childs that feel the need to destroy months of work for the lol.

Offline raiding, massive tribes vs small ones, cowards that are exploiting, cheating and hacking does not constitute PvP in my book.

As for the multiplayer aspect, blocking obelisks/beacons do indeed prevent access to blueprints (who could care less about crop plots and compass blueprints anyways...) and quality items, but on the flip side of the coin, it allows us to create a safe shelter where cummunities of smaller tribes can grow (and PvP if they wish) without the fear of losing it all during the night to a massive tribe using shady tactics.

On a side note, having limited to no blueprints force players to actually cooperate with each others and trade in order to obtain items, etc.

Once again, that is my humble opinion based on previous experiences.
Last edited by Darkholis; Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:23am
Scooby Doo (Banned) Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:25am 
Yes you do protect those on the server but you also prevent growth. If I wanted to transfer to your server now I can not. Why because you have blocked my way in. Not everyone that is going to transfer in will have the intent of destroying. Some people may want to move there based on reputation but if no one in the tribe that is blocking the way is online there is no way around it. That is the part that is wrong and gamebreaking. Also the reason I will never play on those servers till WC finds a way to clean them up. At this point I dont see that happening. So if I dont pay for my own server then I have to play SP. That is bordering have to pay a monthly cost to play the game.
Darkholis Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Dawg711:
Yes you do protect those on the server but you also prevent growth. If I wanted to transfer to your server now I can not. Why because you have blocked my way in. Not everyone that is going to transfer in will have the intent of destroying. Some people may want to move there based on reputation but if no one in the tribe that is blocking the way is online there is no way around it. That is the part that is wrong and gamebreaking. Also the reason I will never play on those servers till WC finds a way to clean them up. At this point I dont see that happening. So if I dont pay for my own server then I have to play SP. That is bordering have to pay a monthly cost to play the game.

Agreed.

Problem is we had the exact same problem with transfers last year and it turned out into a mess rather quickly. Tribes porting thousands of grenades & explosives from server-to-server....

I doubt we'll see Wildcard changing the transfer system anytime soon, as it's (at least was) the main selling point of the DLC.

Personnaly, transfers should be limited to characters only with no items/dinosaurs but that won't happen, so our best course of action is to bring up solutions/ideas to counter the problem of massive tribes, such as tribe size limitations, cooldown on XYZ amount of tribemates transfered, etc.
Dragonlady Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:47am 
Their official stance on it the situation is it's a PvP server so gt PvP'ed basically. If you like the vanilla game without all the transfer nonsense try our server, everything is default except dino races. More stable with active admins and on call support, server is scripted to auto reboot after internet failures or power outages, pretty spiffy 24.121.54.100:7777
mistersilk108 Nov 20, 2016 @ 2:43pm 
I'm a member of the alpha tribe on my server and we've taken to blocking supply drops as well. The only people to have complained about it are leveled players who migrated in from other servers.

The weaker been good sports and have been assisting im that strat but it sucks we've had to resort to that scorched earth policy to protect not only ourselves but the weaker tribes as well, as I'd rather they be able to access content without fear of allowing some murderous tribe or hackers onto the server.
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Date Posted: Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:17am
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