1x, 2x, 3x rates evo event confusion

[hullu hullu]

Sooo, we now have:

1x --> 2x at weekends

Wildcard will put the current rates of 2x as the new basic rate in the core of the game.
Then they say "3x @ evo events".

Im confused here.
Imho we have a mathematical problem with those numbers.
Let me explain:

You have a BASIC rate, that is ALWAYS considered as "1x".
This BASIC rate is now increased by 2.

After increasing it, it is still the BASIC rate.
So for the "3x" there will be different outcomes what it could be:

***** 3x of former 1x (now 0.5x) what will lead to confusion.
New players, used to the new 1x (2x of former 1x) seeing 3x in the evo event description are going to think "when i pick up 2 stones on 1x, and rates are increased by 3, i should get 6 stones now".
***** 3x of current 1x = 6x of former 1x (will never happen im sure, but still not clear)
***** 3x of former 1x = after new 1x (former 2x) that 3x will actually be 1.5x to give f.e. 3 stones on hadpicking them
***** Or, hey, maybe the evo event will still be announced as 2x evo event, what would mean, we get 4x rates (1x2x2), who knows????

So what we get now? 3x = (2x3) = 6x? or 3x = (1.5x2), 3x = (1x2x2) = 4x?
The thing is, you cannot use different base values on each side of the equal sign, you need the same base. Since you changed the base onone side (the 1x), you must change the base for the other side too (means 3x X(-+×/) change of the base).

Enough Theory for now...
We all know, we will get 1.5x of the new BASIC rate, but wildcard, please communitcate it in this way.

And continue the great work on the game, i love it :D cant wait for the other stuff like primal and what not you guys will dev in the future ;)

[hullu hullu]

Originally posted by the.ronin:

tldr; is x1 or x2 now referred to as base rates?

Tldr would be "wildcard pls change 3x to 1.5x, since thats the new correct value of evo bonus"
xD

[Natjur]

The base rate x1 (server setting) is still the base
But ALL offical servers now run at x2 (when not in an event)
and higher when listed (like now its x3)

The the current x3 is 50% more then normal (which is x2) and the un-offical servers out there running at x1.... are painful

Not sure whey they did not leave it at x1 but just changed what x1 was (so EVERY server got increased, offical or unofficial)


Clear as mud?

[hullu hullu]

Originally posted by Natjur:

The base rate x1 (server setting) is still the base
But ALL offical servers now run at x2 (when not in an event)
and higher when listed (like now its x3)

The the current x3 is 50% more then normal (which is x2) and the un-offical servers out there running at x1.... are painful

Not sure whey they did not leave it at x1 but just changed what x1 was (so EVERY server got increased, offical or unofficial)


Clear as mud?

//Edit
You are wrong, they WILL change the base value, they told us to decrease all increased private server values by 50% to keep what we expect. Go and read the announcement again...

//Edit2 there you go:

Originally posted by Jat:

Furthermore, in the next major version releases, the 2x rates will be implemented directly in the game build itself. This means that Non-Dedicated Servers, Single Player Sessions and of course Unofficial Servers will also feel the increased rates. Therefore, if you’re currently using customized rates, it’s something you will want to keep in mind before this change is in place -- specifically upon the release of the next Major Version on each of your respective platforms, you may wish to reduce your server/game rates by 50% to have the same effective values as before.

//Old message
Yeah, still means the 3x isnt really 3x taming/harvesting/xp, it is a bonus of 50% then, that 3x will lead to confusion. Well... maybe they should announce it as percentual value like "this weekend 50% more blablable" ???

Haha i like discussing this, its not very important, but its still worth talking about :D

[Maireen]

Well in the present tense of that announcement, the game is still in 1x mode. So mentioning 3x for a later update is actually correct. If 2x was now the normal rate then announce weekend as 1.5x

[hullu hullu]

Originally posted by Maireen:

Well in the present tense of that announcement, the game is still in 1x mode. So mentioning 3x for a later update is actually correct. If 2x was now the normal rate then announce weekend as 1.5x

This is correct. Im just curious if it will actually be announced as 1.5x or 50%+ and... i also would not be surprised if they would still annouce it as 3x lol... you dont have a timemachine for me to check that quick? :P

[Maireen]

Heheh your next best thing to use is to tweet Jat.
https://twitter.com/jatstweeter

[Nighthawk]

sure seams like people are making this seam way more complicated than it really is, I prefer the simple method, at 1x i pick up 1 stone, 2x 2 stones, 3x 3 stones :P

[Sam Of Haywood]

ok kids this is how it'll go

the new norm for official non-extinction servers will be 2x when evo weekends happen, it'll be 3x however!! extinction servers will default to 3x and on evo weekends go up to 4x, not very confusing now, is it?

[hullu hullu]

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

-snip-

Guess you should read my post again...

[Cellar_Cat]

Before the last server finally went down it was 1.5x, which makes sense if they're upping the base to what was in the past 2x, because 1.5x would then be the equivalent to the 3x of the past.

So, I think when they say 3x, they mean old rates.

[Kitty]

The menu confirms 1.5x of current rates.