S+ Not Snapping

[☠EVIL_STYX☠]

I just started building a new base and none of my S+ structures are snapping, did they change something in this new update?

The base game structures still snap.....

Please help if anyone has the same problem, and if so if they solved this!?

Thanks

[Rommell8]

Originally posted by SLI_Fallen:

Originally posted by Rommell8:

my S+ stuff was gone just now logging in??? single player

everything that held items too> cabinets workbenches ..prob everything S+ i didn't stay on to look at the damage....i had massive pile of 4x metal and glass walls saved to build with/oi

Rename the most recent prior save game in your C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ARK\ShooterGame\Saved\SavedArksLocal folder to TheIsland.ark and it should be back once you launch again. Just losing whatever time since that save, but better than nothing!

oo thx 4 reply/maybe 1 my friends can do that forme

I have no idea how to look in programs to mess w files or mods-and i doubt i ever will-mostly newer systems have 10k distraction programs that confuse the main menu now- I hope for a huge solar flare so we can go back to rolling dice again

[Captain Pansy]

Originally posted by Rukus:

Exactly this. If all of these angry posters knew how game design and development worked they would change their tune. Any attempt to say anything remotely calm and educated seems to set them off. It will be fixed when it is fixed. Simple as that. Play something else for a bit, or go get some sun, that's my advice :)

i am a game dev, and i work in the same engine ark was made (unreal engine 4). i loked into their code. it is a hot mess. not because their devs are incompetent, but because it is a mishmash. which means, WC is constantly firing and hiring new devs, and they never know what the other s did, and they just build their layer of buggy mess, and this is because every change is so bad.
and even the foundation of the game is one of the most unpotimized free unreal asset, namely https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Resources/SampleGames/ShooterGame
and mostly because of this, they cannot even update the engine version, and they use an ancient version, 4.7 or something.

if the code would have been made clean, object oriented, modular and simple, the game would run 10x as fast and less buggy.

[☠EVIL_STYX☠]

Originally posted by Pog Champ:

Originally posted by Zombie_Barioth:

Exactly this. If all of these angry posters knew how game design and development worked they would change their tune. Any attempt to say anything remotely calm and educated seems to set them off. It will be fixed when it is fixed. Simple as that. Play something else for a bit, or go get some sun, that's my advice :)

Ok, I make my living doing exactly that, design and development. I will say it again don't talk to me like I don't know whats going on champ...

I am not part of game development anymore on ARK bud... No longer a test dummy for them, get it!? I don't think you do. Educate yourself get on the page where this is a RELEASED GAME and quit acting like this is acceptable in anyway to release a game breaking patch when it's a known issue since January.

You setting there acting like this is still a EARLY ACCESS game is funny... that would be the issue at hand now wouldn't it Champ. I QUIT being a test pilot the minute Wild Card RELEASED their game... Hope that brings you up to speed and gets you closer to the major issue we now have. This is no longer a early access title and beta testing. This would by definition be Alpha testing because beta testing is when you have all content added to the game and you are polishing... Alpha is where you are still "implementing" content for testing. ( to educate you further champ ) When they released their game, it is up to them to make sure it is a polished version before release not know their is a issue and shove it down peoples throat.

I am not, nor are many many many others going to just set here say it's ok and not say anything about this kind of development. Just set there and say oh well, it's a $130.00 for game and DLC full price and some paid exactly that. It's ok they still treat me as if I am a tester when I am not anymore. They need to fix it fast or roll it back. End of story champ.

[☠EVIL_STYX☠]

Originally posted by Pog Champ:

Originally posted by ☠EVIL_STYX☠:

Wall of text, didn't read most. I am very familiar with the development process. Stop reading my posts out of context and you may possibly get what I am saying. I said it plain, no interpretation needed. No where did I explicitly say anything was acceptable or unacceptable. So when you beef up your comprehension skills and reply intelligently maybe i'll read your post then, maybe. Enjoy the rest of your day!

Go troll somewhere else... you sir are the one with major comprehension issue's... You prove that much yourself. don't reply to posts you don't read...

Good luck with your trolling, hope you do it somewhere else, as I have already flagged you in this thread.

No you really don't have any clue as to what is involved... I can tell. Been in this business for years my friend. Cya Champ.

[Dradiin]

I am annoyed about this, but wow some people are super heated, i strongly suggest you find another game to play until WC figures this out, or the guy who made S+ mod fixes it (which is highly unlikely).

Conan Exiles just got a new update btw.

[KLOWN]

Originally posted by Dradiin:

I am annoyed about this, but wow some people are super heated, i strongly suggest you find another game to play until WC figures this out, or the guy who made S+ mod fixes it (which is highly unlikely).

Conan Exiles just got a new update btw.

people are mad because we might have lost thousands of hours of work

how many servers run S+ a mod that is now DEAD

[☠EVIL_STYX☠]

Originally posted by Rukus:

Originally posted by Kisston:

Actually, orionsun ( the maker and Modder of S+ for those who don't know ) posted this on the S+ mod comments a few hours ago:




Fun fact: I was only paid $2000 for them integrating S+ into the game which is 4 times less than Automated Ark won in the latest modding contest.

I have also had zero involvement in the integration process: they told me they wanted to integrate & asked for documentation on the mod, a year later while I was working on Atlas, I was asked to at some point talk about features to integrate but that talk never happened and then a while after that they asked for the latest source code.

That is the sum total of my involvement in the integration process.

So i dont think he had to much to do with anything, But if he was involved with it things would be a lot better than they are.

Ok so now that we are done with Mr.Champs derail and flexing of his e-ego ( Freelance pffft )...

We can get back on task, which is the OP and that is S+ not snapping and the entire reason people are on fire from here to kingdom come.

It is NOT the modders responsibility anymore... he got paid and WC put it in their game, which makes it WC's issue and because it's a release version of the game, it is unacceptable to release game breaking patch's.

[Dradiin]

Originally posted by ☠EVIL_STYX☠:

Originally posted by Rukus:

Actually, orionsun ( the maker and Modder of S+ for those who don't know ) posted this on the S+ mod comments a few hours ago:




Fun fact: I was only paid $2000 for them integrating S+ into the game which is 4 times less than Automated Ark won in the latest modding contest.

I have also had zero involvement in the integration process: they told me they wanted to integrate & asked for documentation on the mod, a year later while I was working on Atlas, I was asked to at some point talk about features to integrate but that talk never happened and then a while after that they asked for the latest source code.

That is the sum total of my involvement in the integration process.

So i dont think he had to much to do with anything, But if he was involved with it things would be a lot better than they are.

Ok so now that we are done with Mr.Champs derail and flexing of his e-ego ( Freelance pffft )...

We can get back on task, which is the OP and that is S+ not snapping and the entire reason people are on fire from here to kingdom come.

It is NOT the modders responsibility anymore... he got paid and WC put it in their game, which makes it WC's issue and because it's a release version of the game, it is unacceptable to release game breaking patch's.

I am curious if we can use the standard foundations, walls etc. that are not apart of the main game, and still use the stations and other items from the S+ mod. S+ was not just about the building pieces.

I have noticed i crash alot more since the recent update, not sure if it is mod related or patch related. Oh well off to another game till this gets sorted.

[☠EVIL_STYX☠]

Yes Dradin, you can set and snap regular foundations and as far as I know you can snap S+ walls to regular foundations but you can't use S+ ceilings... Basically the snap points for foundations and ceiling tiles S+ are broke from what I am seeing...

Dradin Yes, stutters, freezes and crashes are a major issue at this time.

( for those of us who know what we are doing Mr.Champ. Comprehension again Pog Champ it's in my review that it was contradictory. Reported again for Trolling Baiting and off topic )

[Meow Decaf]

@Dradiin
You can use the crafting stations but there (maybe) is some other issue with using the S+ with ARK atm that makes it wonky and even more broken. I'm not sure for Servers, but for SP at least for me I'm running into an issue that no one seem to have found out yet or it could be just me.

I can't make or use the New Wall or Triangle foundations. Instead, I'm greeted with several copies of S+ versions, (though for a moment I was able to see the new Vanilla Triangle, don’t ask me how, in my crafting menu but it disappeared when I re-logged) and when I re-log any of the New Walls or Triangles I have in my bag or even placed down will magically turn into S+ versions. Idk about doors and what not yet. And yes I do have the new endgrams learned for these new items too.
In order for me to build I have to spawn one in, make it a blueprint with S+ mod and make everything I want, and don't log out till everything is placed otherwise everything I made/spawned in is useless.

EDIT: the normal foundations are not effected by this, and remain Vanilla. I haven't tested it to much though and this is only on SP.

[☠EVIL_STYX☠]

I had that issue awhile back, when pulling up your crafting menu in the search bar at the top just type in "S+" might bring up the blocks you're missing in your craft menu and engram list. I know I had to do that in mine for awhile... just start to type in "S+" and would bring up blocks that would not show for me in craft menu.

I think you can still make a conversion table and that will convert any blocks into S+ or back to regular. That might help swap blocks between log ins... look for S+ Converter table in your engrams.

[Meow Decaf]

Could be, but I will say this. I am unable to convert the triangles to the Vanilla ones nor the Vanilla ones to S+ (I tried for giggles).

EDIT: I think I even tried the walls too? I don't think it works either. Yes I did use the converter and the blueprint maker from S+ as well.

[☠EVIL_STYX☠]

Roger that, thanks for the info, I haven't tried the triangles yet... Didn't make it that far lol.

[Meow Decaf]

np, I just checked again, I can see and find the stone triangles but the wood and adobe one is missing. Vanilla, ones. For how long idk. I type in "found" to search for crafting items with that in my bag, btw.
If this is more then just me, this will make converting S+ into Vanilla stuff more or less painful to say the least without removing S+... If not impossible since at least for what I tried will magically turn into S+ after a re-log.

EDIT: On my SP, S+ snaps now work for me after the sneaky update. :D Most of what I said above is now irrelevant. However, the new Vanilla items still magically turning into S+ versions after a re-log. Also note, from what I've seen you cannot convert them either; from S+ to Vanilla or vise versa.

[JimbodiahKerman]

Originally posted by ☠EVIL_STYX☠:

This is unacceptable for a full release game that costs what this one does...

That is ok behavior for a Early Access product.

It however is NOT acceptable behavior for a full release product.

I may change my review...

They didn't even test this ♥♥♥♥... That much is obvious!

Worse yet, it was already reported during the beta and they just released it anyway. This goes beyond incompetence to just plain contempt. If they even played the game for 5 minutes before releasing, they would have seen the issue. It's not some hidden feature no one uses, it's freaking core functionality on every single structure part.