Ok. Why mixed reviews?

[Coyote]

The reviews are all over the place. Some random guy crying about being banned (which i dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about)

People saying the updates make the game worse... And then not elaborating at all whatsoever.

And then other people complaining about the guy who got banned.... (which i dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about)

Im sure he got banned for a good reason but is making himself out to be the "good guy" and people like to eat that stupid ♥♥♥♥ up... Either way not interested in the drama garbage.



So is there any real reasons why it has mixed reviews? Im interested in the game especially since it has controller support. Looking for a good game to play privately with family members and select few friends... Something to sink alot of hours into and feel accomplished about thing we achieved in the game.

[Xnate13X]

Escrito originalmente por Deblin:

It's mixed because there are some good parts and some bad parts. The good parts are kind of... unique, and you can't get them in other games, and the bad parts are both literally game-breaking and in the figurative sense would be enough to make you toss aside any other game that had similar issues.

The good:
-- The premise: it's a survival game with Jurassic Park style dinosaurs, and conceptually the survival / PvE elements are varied and interesting (with hostile wildlife having varied behavior, environments and biomes being nicely varied, and and the cool factor of taming and riding dinosaurs based on actual paleontological concepts instead of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ generic fantasy whatever.

-- The graphics: visual design is really nice in this game if you can see it. Albeit since no one can basically ever actually see it due to other issues, this is more of a wash.

The bad:
-- Pay to win: the devs don't actually know how to keep people playing, so every new expansion puts in a dinosaur or engram that simply bypasses all existing defenses outright and lets you autowin unless the other guy also shells out the money to pay to win. Usually, this new dino is at least initially ridiculously trivial to tame once you've used your elite "stealing mom's credit card" skills (**coughmanaflightbugneverfixedcough**) to the point of basically walking up and claiming your free win button, so this is unpleasant for anyone who actually wants to play the real game.

-- Lost the thread of what the game actually is: all of the expansions (the actual expansions, not the fan-made maps) are fantasy trash that center around things that aren't actually dinosaurs, completely ruining the entire basic premise of the game and making it another generic fantasy game with dragons and rock golems and things with "freeze breath" and no, I'm not making any of that up. So even the PvE players are kind of screwed.

-- Almost unbelievable levels of technical incompetence and a complete nonexistence of any kind of QA, including paying any attention to the free QA of player feedback. Like... there are creatures that could simply auto-destroy your base through ten or fifteen meters of wall, without your base being able to shoot back. Glitching through the mesh to bypass defenses (it's a survival game, building up bases and attacking them is the entire gameplay loop after the initial "run screaming from dinosaurs for several weeks" experience) is famously trivial, and after literal years of these issues being so well-known that people gave up and incorporated them into the PvP meta as core elements, the devs finally made a first-pass, cursory half-effort to fix a few of these kinds of bugs... last week. Literally, a week ago.

-- Servers are buggy and crash-prone, dino AI is buggy, and in generally the ratio of dying (or losing dinosaurs) to actual things in the game like terrain, weather, other players not cheating, etc, to dying or losing assets to glitches is about 1:30. Since it's a survival/building game, this means that you'll sink dozens of hours to a thing, and then technical incompetence on the part of the developers will simply make it vanish, at random, in seconds.

-- Poorly optimized on an epic scale: the graphics are in Unreal (I think? not 100% on that) so there's no back-end excuse that can pass the buck on how much of a memory-leaking mess of borderline malware this game is. It will use all of your memory, no matter how much memory you have, to do sometimes very literally nothing. Loading in will take upwards of 20 minutes on a dedicated gaming machine that boots anything else, even more graphically intensive and recent games, in seconds. It will freeze and CTD constantly. To even get this half-assed failed high schooler computer science project running on a basic functional level, you'll have to learn a bunch of Steam startup commands to heavily modify how the crap even works (mostly just disabling large swathes of rendering functionality)

-- Actual Malware: Battleye is more or less actual borderline-legal malware. You can no longer do your personal banking on any machine you run Ark on. Though in fairness running a server without it is a new layer of hell because even _with_ the orwellian nightmare passing judgement on your google search history and noting down your mother's maiden name and sister's birthday the cheating is constant and unceasing.

-- It wasn't a real game company, it was a crowdfunding scam that went horribly right and forced the studio to desperately throw things together because they'd accidentally been too successful and had too much attention drawn for them to just sneak off into the night with a big bag over their shoulder with a dollar sign like they'd intended. Initially the scam was "infinite early access", then they switched to the pay-to-win thing when even Steam's notoriously lax ethics caught up to them. Then they tried to shift to a Ponzi-scheme style deal with Atlas (a reskin of Ark with an ostensible pirate theme) but the customer base has been getting a bit savvier about funding scams lately and that failed, which is why they're _finally_ attempting to go back and make Ark a legitimate actual game and "go legit", essentially. But that past as blatant con men still tends to... inform their decisions as a business, as it were.

So... yeah. People with a lot of hours are putting up with basically a half-functional fragment of a game because of how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cool dinosaur island is.

Yepp, basically goes in to detail more on what I was saying above. I completely agree and didn't have to type this much, but this is basically what I wrote in a more detailed sense. Thanks. p: They even just released an update and then within an hour rolled back the update because they suck.

[༒ǝꞁf⚣٩๏̯͡๏)۶]

The guy that got banned was a Youtuber who showed an exploit. He shouldn't have done it. He should have known that no corporation would let that slide not just Wildcard. And, no, it has nothing to do with the game play itself.

More important is Nvidia's RTX graphic card series that is in every brand spanking new PC cannot run ark survival because reasons. Overheating being one result. This is Nvidia's fault not Wildcard's.

Finally the real reason for mixed reviews. This game is huge with many different ways you can play. It crashes a lot because it is huge and lags. Pushes PC's to their max. However, if you are into survival games and dinosaurs IT IS VERY WORTH EVERY CENT OF IT. Some people do not have fun in survival. Some people play pve and enjoy. Some people get on pvp and get their asses kicked and cry cry cry like the usual pvp'ers you find in any pvp game. Some people never leave Single Player mode and build like it's a dino version of Mincraft. It is what you make of it.

It's a good game. It has lots of options. Just buy it and try it. If you can get it to run you will have a blast. Super fun game.

[-Lu-]

In rust if you build a stone base you are good for a long while, in Ark, if you build a stone base someone can totally wipe you with a single C4 charge. Same with metal. You can have a 10x10 segmented metal base and someone can roll up with a rocket launcher and totally wipe you in like 20 rockets shots through the center of your base.

Dinos take 3+ hours to tame, and take 10 seconds to die. Why does it take so long to tame? Oh yeah artificially inflate playtime. Everything in this game is a time-sink that gives no reward. It should take 15 minutes to tame a dino, 30 MAX. 1-4 hours? go ♥♥♥♥ yourself.

[Captpickles]

Escrito originalmente por Zeeth:

In rust if you build a stone base you are good for a long while, in Ark, if you build a stone base someone can totally wipe you with a single C4 charge. Same with metal. You can have a 10x10 segmented metal base and someone can roll up with a rocket launcher and totally wipe you in like 20 rockets shots through the center of your base.

Dinos take 3+ hours to tame, and take 10 seconds to die. Why does it take so long to tame? Oh yeah artificially inflate playtime. Everything in this game is a time-sink that gives no reward. It should take 15 minutes to tame a dino, 30 MAX. 1-4 hours? go ♥♥♥♥ yourself.

or you could play on unofficial...

[-Lu-]

Escrito originalmente por Captpickles:

Escrito originalmente por Zeeth:

In rust if you build a stone base you are good for a long while, in Ark, if you build a stone base someone can totally wipe you with a single C4 charge. Same with metal. You can have a 10x10 segmented metal base and someone can roll up with a rocket launcher and totally wipe you in like 20 rockets shots through the center of your base.

Dinos take 3+ hours to tame, and take 10 seconds to die. Why does it take so long to tame? Oh yeah artificially inflate playtime. Everything in this game is a time-sink that gives no reward. It should take 15 minutes to tame a dino, 30 MAX. 1-4 hours? go ♥♥♥♥ yourself.

or you could play on unofficial...

Why would I play on an unofficial server where the admins can do whatever they want and just spawn whatever they need? Why do I need to suck admin ♥♥♥♥ to get a 15 min tame?

[Captpickles]

Escrito originalmente por Zeeth:

Escrito originalmente por Captpickles:

or you could play on unofficial...

Why would I play on an unofficial server where the admins can do whatever they want and just spawn whatever they need? Why do I need to suck admin ♥♥♥♥ to get a 15 min tame?

lol then don't complain about playing on official either way it sounds like you're sucking on something.

[-Lu-]

Escrito originalmente por Captpickles:

Escrito originalmente por Zeeth:

Why would I play on an unofficial server where the admins can do whatever they want and just spawn whatever they need? Why do I need to suck admin ♥♥♥♥ to get a 15 min tame?

lol then don't complain about playing on official either way it sounds like you're sucking on something.

You sound mad.

[Captpickles]

Escrito originalmente por Zeeth:

Escrito originalmente por Captpickles:

lol then don't complain about playing on official either way it sounds like you're sucking on something.

You sound mad.

lol I was about to say the same to you :D

[A Terrible Modder]

main cause's for the bad reviews

meshing

bugs

tribe wipes

HOD gaming review bomber squad

and the china

[Ferchi]

The guy banned was H.O.D and was an unfair ban, now he is unbaned and was a public mistake from the devs of ark

The game is "good", but the guys making the game are bad (bad and slow support and unfair bans, ignoring the comunity until they jump to the face), thats the reazon about the mixed reviews in game

you can play some good days but the next day you lost all, but... for bugs and xploits (mesh and platform on dinos without damage) or the server just dissapear bc yhea... no for raid or war legitelly

This game is changuin almost each week, they still adding new "improved" stuff after years without backup
then you can't leave the same review always, if you do that you are a liar

My first review was positive (in early access) after that they deside to launch the game broken and unfinished more expensive ignoring all and making new servers broken, then i leave my bad review and i can change that until they fix the mesh or nerf the dinos overpowered full of xploits (quets, paracers)... well when the game can be stable.
i got 7000 hours but i stopped enjoyed the game after the last bad changes, when seems like we are the only testers or they need to play the own game bc the own devs need to learn a loot.. or just hear the comunity doing the work free for they.

[Eagle]

I play ARK solo/in a private group of 2-3 friends PVE only, while the game is a little low on my PVE expectations, I tend to spend hours building or taming the dumbest of creatures in the game. I spent 5 hours alone just breeding Dodo's on custom breeding speed settings to see how fast it'll run. Never touched the PVP and never will, don't like farm and raid kind of gameplay, Minecraft factions in 2012 ruined it for me.

[Vesuvius]

Escrito originalmente por ¡DeleteSystem32!:

main cause's for the bad reviews

1; People don't know how to review games.

2: see 1

Fixed.

[Moosey Fate]

Always unethical to ban because you can't close exploits. I'm not an exploiter, nor have I ever been banned. I just know it's worse to pass the blame of using something unintentionally in the game to use player exploiting it. Completely disgusting.