Breeding wyverns and rock drakes when?

[Nora Iconiq]

I saw this subject show up on the survive the ark forms so I am gonna bring it up here. There are now 4 I repeat 4 creatures that are obtained by stealing eggs the wyverns the rock drakes the dinonacus and now the magmasaurs. And I noticed something really unfair and must be addressed and responded to. I may have spelled a few names wrong but you know what I am talking about. Pretty much the dinonacus and the magmasaurs are breedable so I am wondering when can we breed our wyverns and rock drakes? If the answer is no and never for what ever stupid reason than I think the dinonacus and the magmasaurs should be made to not be breedable any longer.

From what I can tell the main reasons given by both the devs and the community is that wyverns and rock drakes are too over powered when they arent infact they are easily counterable and there are creatures more op than them now which are breedable. The dinonacus can inflicted bleed quite heavily infact and jump onto other creatures thats already over powered to begin with and yet people can mass breed them like crazy and have. And the magmasaur spits balls of magma at enemies and can easily destroy stone structures and its breedable a wyvern cant even easily destroy a wood structure much less a stone one. So already those reasons are null and void.

And dont even get me started on why they did a flyer nerf awhile back and gave the damned snow owl a work around making it the fastest flier in the game. So yeah overall the reasons for not being able to breed wyverns and rock drakes are invalid so make them breedable or make the other two sterile by default so people cant mass breed them like they have been.

You may now comince your arguements as for why they shouldnt or just plane rage which ever you feel like.

[Dradiin]

Meh, flyers make ARK too simple to be honest, try setting to game to no flyers and its an entirely different game.

Wyverns are a bit much, and breeding them would just make them into mini bosses. I do think Griffins need to be breedable, they are not OP'ed like Wyverns and in AB Rock Drakes.

Oh well, yer not gonna change WC's mind on this. Good luck out there.

[liberator65853]

If they made Wyvern and Rock Drakes breedable they would have to change how their wild eggs spawns and base stats. Magmasaur and Deinonychus eggs spawn at the wild creature max level because they can breed so you can get a wild egg max 150. Wyverns and rock drakes eggs go up to 190 or something because they can't be bred. You can use s+ mutator or a similar mod to breed them and with mutations they do become OP. On my modded game I have a rockdrake with 3 health and 2 melee mutations and it has more health and damage than my 7/5 rexes. I haven't bred wyverns yet but I assume they would get OP with mutations.

[Nora Iconiq]

Originally posted by liberator65853:

If they made Wyvern and Rock Drakes breedable they would have to change how their wild eggs spawns and base stats. Magmasaur and Deinonychus eggs spawn at the wild creature max level because they can breed so you can get a wild egg max 150. Wyverns and rock drakes eggs go up to 190 or something because they can't be bred. You can use s+ mutator or a similar mod to breed them and with mutations they do become OP. On my modded game I have a rockdrake with 3 health and 2 melee mutations and it has more health and damage than my 7/5 rexes. I haven't bred wyverns yet but I assume they would get OP with mutations.

Dude wyverns are not any more op than a regular creature also again they made the other two breedable and they are more powerful than the wyverns. Also dude mods break every time they release a major update so ♥♥♥♥ mods. It's not hard to make them breedable they proved that also wyverns dont start at max level nothing does the only time they do spawn at max level and thats for every creature is after you kill them several times to spawn better ones only then will you get a so called max level which isnt even the max possible level in the game. Ontop of that by default every tame is nerfed as soon as you tame it it gets 2X less stats than its wild counterpart per level. So already the point you tried to make is invaild I have compared the stats gain of default and when you go into the settings and make them equal stat gain to the default wild creatures and man do they become insanely powerful compared to before so wild creatures have a higher stat gain the only difference is the wild creatures points are randomly distributed when tames can be customized. So op stats and mutations and what not doesnt matter because your creatures dont get them or if you do its severely weaker compared to wild ones. On a side note you can only take wyverns and rock drakes to specific maps because someone on the dev team thought it would be a good idea to bar certain capabilties from certain maps.

[Nora Iconiq]

Originally posted by Dradiin:

Meh, flyers make ARK too simple to be honest, try setting to game to no flyers and its an entirely different game.

Wyverns are a bit much, and breeding them would just make them into mini bosses. I do think Griffins need to be breedable, they are not OP'ed like Wyverns and in AB Rock Drakes.

Oh well, yer not gonna change WC's mind on this. Good luck out there.

No wyverns and rockdrakes first than we can talk about griffins and what not because those are actually more of a problem than wyverns when was the last time you saw anyone use a wyvern for raids plot twist most people dont because obtaining them is too much of a hassle compared to everything thats breedable including dinonacus and magmasaurs which are too op to be breedable but still are breedable I just want my favorite creature to be breedable for when I play. Also remember that flier nerf yeah that affacted the wyverns too but the griffins are the snow owl have the swoop ability making them 5X faster than the wyvern. So yeah I dont care about griffins I'll only talk about it when I actually get what i want in the game first.

[liberator65853]

Originally posted by Nora Iconiq:

Originally posted by liberator65853:

If they made Wyvern and Rock Drakes breedable they would have to change how their wild eggs spawns and base stats. Magmasaur and Deinonychus eggs spawn at the wild creature max level because they can breed so you can get a wild egg max 150. Wyverns and rock drakes eggs go up to 190 or something because they can't be bred. You can use s+ mutator or a similar mod to breed them and with mutations they do become OP. On my modded game I have a rockdrake with 3 health and 2 melee mutations and it has more health and damage than my 7/5 rexes. I haven't bred wyverns yet but I assume they would get OP with mutations.

Dude wyverns are not any more op than a regular creature also again they made the other two breedable and they are more powerful than the wyverns. Also dude mods break every time they release a major update so ♥♥♥♥ mods. It's not hard to make them breedable they proved that also wyverns dont start at max level nothing does the only time they do spawn at max level and thats for every creature is after you kill them several times to spawn better ones only then will you get a so called max level which isnt even the max possible level in the game. Ontop of that by default every tame is nerfed as soon as you tame it it gets 2X less stats than its wild counterpart per level. So already the point you tried to make is invaild I have compared the stats gain of default and when you go into the settings and make them equal stat gain to the default wild creatures and man do they become insanely powerful compared to before so wild creatures have a higher stat gain the only difference is the wild creatures points are randomly distributed when tames can be customized. So op stats and mutations and what not doesnt matter because your creatures dont get them or if you do its severely weaker compared to wild ones. On a side note you can only take wyverns and rock drakes to specific maps because someone on the dev team thought it would be a good idea to bar certain capabilties from certain maps.

I play single player and I can take them to all of the official maps, extinction/genesis/the island/ragnarok/valguero. The exception is the wyvern to Aberration but you can't take any fliers to aberration unless you enable it. and your creatures do get mutations, it takes weeks of breeding of though

[Vesuvius]

OP.... the great wall of text can be seen from space.

I can give you one good reason

Because they dont need to.

That's pretty much it. Dont gotta like it.

Magamasaur cant jump.... cant fly... cant glide.... has a pretty hefty time sink to breed...

Its YOUR choice not to use mods... for whatever reason you like.

But YOU have choices.

[𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲]

imagine breeding super wyverns and having a lightning wyvern that does base 1k damage/tick on the breath... Yes i'm exaggerating.

Nope, no thanks. Save that shiz for mods. Wyverns and rock drakes don't need to be bred, no reason tbh, they are fine as is.

Just use S+.

[Sicksadpanda]

While I do agree with wyverns not being overpowered. Having them be breedable might be overwhelming in PvP as they can easily overtake players with an army of high lvl wyverns.

Rock Drakes might not be powerful fighters, but they are insanely good scouts. None of the flyers or dinos can outpace a rock drake speed. Even though cloaking is obvious, it can get really hard to find if they dive into a forest.

[Nora Iconiq]

Originally posted by Vesuvius:

OP.... the great wall of text can be seen from space.

I can give you one good reason

Because they dont need to.

That's pretty much it. Dont gotta like it.

Magamasaur cant jump.... cant fly... cant glide.... has a pretty hefty time sink to breed...

Its YOUR choice not to use mods... for whatever reason you like.

But YOU have choices.

Magmasaurs cant jump cant fly ect but they cant demolish a entire base with their lava ball spitting quite easily they are too overpowered even more so when it compared to wyverns yet breedable doesnt matter if it takes a long ass time the fact that monster is breedable and not a wyvern or rock drake is redicoulous because that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ is the top of the food chain now on top of that its suppose to be a living forge. I'm not looking for your excuses I'm saying wyverns and rock drakes are the only ones that arent breedable and the reasons for that are no longer valid.

[Nora Iconiq]

Originally posted by Nora Iconiq:

Originally posted by Vesuvius:

OP.... the great wall of text can be seen from space.

I can give you one good reason

Because they dont need to.

That's pretty much it. Dont gotta like it.

Magamasaur cant jump.... cant fly... cant glide.... has a pretty hefty time sink to breed...

Its YOUR choice not to use mods... for whatever reason you like.

But YOU have choices.

Magmasaurs cant jump cant fly ect but they can demolish a entire base with their lava ball spitting quite easily they are too overpowered even more so when it compared to wyverns yet breedable doesnt matter if it takes a long ass time the fact that monster is breedable and not a wyvern or rock drake is redicoulous because that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ is the top of the food chain now on top of that its suppose to be a living forge. I'm not looking for your excuses I'm saying wyverns and rock drakes are the only ones that arent breedable and the reasons for that are no longer valid.

[Vesuvius]

You asked for reasons.... and then call them excuses.

I dont think you realy want reasons and more that you want pple to agree.

Well fun fact..... on unofficial you can go ahead and breed wyverns and drakes to your hearts desire.

[Nora Iconiq]

Originally posted by Vesuvius:

You asked for reasons.... and then call them excuses.

I dont think you realy want reasons and more that you want pple to agree.

Well fun fact..... on unofficial you can go ahead and breed wyverns and drakes to your hearts desire.

Actually I am trying to get people pissed off so that the devs will actually take a look at this post instead of ignoring it and again every reason given is a excuse because those reasons are ignored for everything else it is only a concern for wyverns and rock drakes but everyone is fine with the magmasaurs being more op than wyverns and rock drakes and the bleed and clutching ability of the dinonacus are given a pass as well both of those are breedable but are obtained the same way I honestly wouldnt bring this up if it was the same treatment for them as it was for wyverns and rock drakes its extremely unfair and the only people who dont want them breedable the people who dont use them and again they give a pass to the other two why is that?

[Vesuvius]

What do you mean "unfair" ...... unfair to the wyverns and drakes.... or unfair to players that have wyverns and drakes but not magmars?

[Vesuvius]

P.s. .... im not trying to be grammar police.... but a few paragraphs and line breaks would make reading your wall txt... that much easier.

[Nora Iconiq]

Originally posted by Vesuvius:

What do you mean "unfair" ...... unfair to the wyverns and drakes.... or unfair to players that have wyverns and drakes but not magmars?

If you're talking about the flying jetpack wolf creature from extinction um that thing is breedable you mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥ so its already a high advantage over a wyvern infact you can use it as a counter to a wyvern.