ARK: Survival Evolved

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Cjay Feb 26, 2020 @ 7:16am
Official Legacy servers
I have like many others pre paid for the Ark Genesis DLC. I play on wildcards Legacy server yet im still waiting to play for a service because they discriminate against us on Legacy. They have plenty of Genesis servers running on Official yet they make us wait on Legacy. I feel this is is completely out of order by wildcard and unacceptable.
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Tiggy Skibbles Feb 26, 2020 @ 7:21am 
they are deleting ALL the legacy servers
Cjay Feb 26, 2020 @ 7:27am 
well i knwo they have deleted pvp but ive not seen anything about the pve servers
Cjay Feb 26, 2020 @ 7:30am 
And if they want to delete the Legacy servers then why did they not inform people before they spend thousands of hours breeding and building and farming
Virtualis Feb 26, 2020 @ 7:54am 
IIRC, they said they would keep the Legacy servers going, as long as they had people on them. How you define "people on them" is the $60,000 question, but at some point even the highest population Legacy server won't be enough to keep it open. There are no Legacy NA PVE SE servers now, for example, and it looks like there's only one Legacy NA PVP SE server left. I came close to leaving Legacy when that happened, but took one look at my collection of Asc Longneck Rifles, and decided I'd rather stick around to the bitter end.

This set of Legacy server keeps shrinking, as you would expect, but the up side is that we're all getting to know each other pretty well, since we're all being forced onto the same servers.

ETA: Cjay, I'm honestly surprised they are going to provide Legacy Genesis servers, and I'll believe it when I see it.
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Cjay Feb 26, 2020 @ 8:05am 
Hey Bugboy. Yes have got to know many peeps which is great. so why not marry Legacy with the official then everyone will be happy. I have mutated thylos in the colours black and yellow and they look awesome. I have spent so much time and effort without being informed that these legacy servers are going to be shut off. if i had known that then i would not have joined the Legacy. As for the Genesis servers on Legacy like you ill believe it when i see it.
Virtualis Feb 26, 2020 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by Cjay:
Hey Bugboy. Yes have got to know many peeps which is great. so why not marry Legacy with the official then everyone will be happy. I have mutated thylos in the colours black and yellow and they look awesome. I have spent so much time and effort without being informed that these legacy servers are going to be shut off. if i had known that then i would not have joined the Legacy. As for the Genesis servers on Legacy like you ill believe it when i see it.
That's because there was a ton of duping before Ark exited EA, and the resources duped were then used to level characters up. Because they couldn't prove who had leveled characters up using duped resources, there was no way to punish the dupers, or even prove that anyone had intentionally leveled characters with duped resources. Blocking off Legacy from Official was the only way to contain the damage.

ETA: You DO realize that Legacy was Official while Ark was in EA?

ETA:ETA: Wildcard DID spend a lot of time informing people about this. And every new DLC since has resulted in low traffic Legacy servers shut down to be "repurposed", I presume to be recycled as new DLC Legacy servers. We had a set of servers shut down this DLC, so I take that as meaning they will eventually crank up *some* Genesis Legacy servers.
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Cjay Feb 26, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Thanks for the info man, If you dont ask youll never know. I only have 2.5k hours on Ark but i have never seen any info on wildcard getting rid of all Legacy servers. If i had seen any info then i would never have come onto legacy just simply as you know, there are alot of hours and effort put into this game. Now it feels like its all been for nothing if they are going to rid of Legacy.

It is such a shame they could not marry the servers up. I feel gutted so i would hate to think how someone with x3 the ammount of hours played that i have is going to feel.
Virtualis Feb 26, 2020 @ 2:19pm 
Well, I *do* have over x3 that many hours (bumping up against 8K hours!) and I've learned you just can't invest too much into the idea that anything is permanent with any virtual world, not just Ark.

In retrospect, naming servers with a limited life span "Legacy" might not have been a great move on Wildcard's part, because that sounds like they are going to be around a while. But they never said outright they were "getting rid" of them, just that if the player base dropped, they'd start weeding out the low use servers. Which is perfectly reasonable, you can't expect Wildcard to pay for servers that are ghost towns. Again, the information was out there if you thought to look for it, but if you don't know to look, well you don't know.

If you have any talent in leveling up in Ark, starting from scratch is not so hard. As a matter of fact it's actually kind of fun to start over, and not make all the mistakes you made when you first started.
zerassar Feb 26, 2020 @ 3:59pm 
@op

Legacy users have been advised time and time again what to expect. Since 2017!!! Can't be helped if you're not seeking the information out as it is there.

Legacy clusters are the old Early access servers. Rather than wipe them at release in 2017 they labelled them as legacy.

They were very clear that you would receive zero support and eventually ALL legacy servers would be deleted.

You've had 3 years notice. Boggles the mind why anyone is still on legacy knowing it's gonna get deleted.

I saw a tweet earlier stating that gen legacy servers are being launched soon of not already. However I strongly suggest you consider moving sooner rather than later
Virtualis Feb 26, 2020 @ 4:32pm 
@zerassar,

"Boggles the mind why anyone is still on legacy knowing it's gonna get deleted."

The OP has a point that if one started playing since the initial flurry of announcements about the fate of Legacy servers, one might think that Legacy servers would be a good place to start. The word "Legacy" can be defined as:

"Something inherited from a predecessor or the past; a heritage." and "A piece of ones' history left behind for following generations to experience."

Which clearly indicates there should be some permanence to Legacy servers.

*I* am still on Legacy servers because I've been playing on Legacy servers for years. I understand that they aren't going to be around forever, but since I've got an investment of time and effort into Legacy servers, as long as there are Legacy servers I have no incentive to start anew on the regular Official servers. Perhaps it would have been better for me to have been forced to start over cold turkey, but now, that's my problem and not yours.

You might have a point about support, but do you really think you get substantially more support on regular servers? I *have* gotten support on Legacy servers, so that's not entirely true anyway. Lastly, you don't know "it's gonna be deleted" any more than a regular server that gets no players would "be deleted". They never said they were simply going to delete them. They said they would evaluate player activity and delete them *if* there wasn't enough logins to justify the expense of running the server, which is exactly what they've been doing.
zerassar Feb 26, 2020 @ 5:33pm 
Whilst they may have missed the initial notices in 2017 the subsequent repeat closures of legacy servers since then must surely have been a big hint to look into it further.

WC support if you get it is pretty woeful I'll give you that. But it's marginally better than none at all.

As soon as the announcement was made in 2017 my tribe and I bailed. Not going to put further time into an environment with an uncertain future.

We can play with the definitions and the wording for sure. As an IT engineer "legacy" to me is quite clear. Deprecated. Old. Unsupported. Likely to be buggy. Not getting any further attention from the dev. AKA upgrade or migrate from it ASAP.

Re their "justification" they were never clear what level of activity they considered justified to keep the server. Feel sorry for any of the sods who thought they were safe to then have their servers deleted based on it reaching whatever threshold WC deemed fit. After every round of cleanups see a bunch of threads on here with people trying to find their server.
Torien Feb 26, 2020 @ 6:14pm 
@zerassar Glad nobody really asked for your almighty IT 2 cents but your free to give it, we are free to disregard it. Many have thousands of hours into their breed lines even back when Ark went official. I myself have well over 5k at this point.

Wildcard please provide an ETA for legacy genesis players when you can. Thanks!
zerassar Feb 26, 2020 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by Torien:
@zerassar Glad nobody really asked for your almighty IT 2 cents but your free to give it, we are free to disregard it. Many have thousands of hours into their breed lines even back when Ark went official. I myself have well over 5k at this point.

Wildcard please provide an ETA for legacy genesis players when you can. Thanks!
No need for the snark mate. Wasn't getting high and mighty at all. One poster mentioned what it meant to them and I merely gave context on what it meant to me.

Given this is a public community forum I don't need to be asked to join a conversation. So sort out that toxic attitude of yours.

Just stating that y'all are taking a risk on those hours you value so much. I truly hope that the day doesn't arrive that you, like many before you, are on this forum asking where your server has gone!

Re the genisis legacy servers. Pretty sure Cedric was tweeting about the ETAs.
Vargserker Feb 27, 2020 @ 12:04am 
Stop talking about migrating if it is not possible.. "Official" starts from scratch and your legacy character 140 with 8k hours all ascension and everything in the trash.
Cjay Feb 27, 2020 @ 12:07am 
Zerassar. Why would anyone seek out the information of the Legacy servers closing if you dont know about it in the first place. That makes no sense. Secondly I finally heard of the closing of the Legacy servers and so i posted on here for the first time to get information about this subject which a very good guy came on and enlightened me as to what was going on and a little history to boot. There was nothing more to it than that. Someone learning more about the game.

The subsequent closure of servers does not indicate a complete closure of Legacy, it indicates that those closed servers were not being used and so they closed them. Makes good business sense. I work very hard and some serious hours so when it comes to playing Ark i dont go routing around looking for information, I click on the game and play it.

I only found out yesterday that the servers are likely to close down because i was talking to a friend about Genesis not being on Legacy the same time as the Official servers and that is when i was told. People have many reasons why they would not know something but not all of us get to live on computers.
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