What would anyone here do to buff the Quetzal?

[JoshTGW]

If you want to, fill free to answer the question above.

Disclaimer:
This isn't any resentment towards the flyer nerf, I do feel it was necessary, but overdone. I only made this post out of curiosity to see what concepts others could create that would help make the Quetzal a better tame that's worth the trouble.


The Quetzal, ever since the Flyer nerf and the minor buff all flyers got being able to attack on land, just really hit this creature pretty hard, much more so than the others. Despite the minor buff, the nerf took it's toll and without mods like Classic Flyers, the Quetzal just isn't a worth while tame anymore. What makes it not worth it is that it doesn't have anything to really provide that another flyer can't do, the Tapejara, except you can just stand on its back or get a platform saddle on it which is pretty late game and expensive. If the saddles aren't expensive enough, it's what it takes to tame them and the risk of doing so which also is now not worth it. During the late game, you honestly don't need it for a majority of the time. It was already like this before the nerf, but it got so much worse. If I were to buff the Quetzal myself, I'd like to say I'd buff this creature indirectly, without making it stronger or weaker by reducing how much torpor it has in the wild, decrease the rate it loses torpor in its wild state, and overall lowering the resources it takes to tame one. This is what I feel would be a great start to making this creature great again without a rework or direct buffs that could make it too strong.

[Charcharodonto]

Nothing


Quetz still provides plenty of utility.

Moving large animals/stuff in a almost riskfree manner.

High carry weight for everything instead of specific resources. also before an argent rivals a quetz in carry weight, you are talking about an imprinted argent with already a high weight stat.

It still excels at it's role. moving large amounts of Cargo from A to B, it just isn't the fastest and easiest manner of doing so. Just the easiest.

[NotDylan7055]

Idk how it'd effect pvp but I'd make it not use stamina. They fly around all the time in the wild, so not out of character, and if they're meant to be basically transport things I think it would work well.

[Snowdrift Hunter]

By the time you get one, an argy is already way better with the weight reduction and the fact they can have thousands of weight still. As for them being good as a dino moving platform, with the fact you can make/have unlimited cryopods/fridges makes them even worthless for that. Even a wyvern can pick up the animals it can.

Think the only way to make it worth anything would be to drop the saddles unlock lower, give them the weight reduction the argy's have but more mats(maybe even give them reduce structure weights) and maybe even increase their weight amount or increase stamina so you can have a semi perma flying base. Otherwise their really isn't any reason to even tame one or sadly even have it in the game.

[Chaser the Tiny Hippo]

Originally posted by Charcharodonto:

Nothing


Quetz still provides plenty of utility.

It used to, but not anymore.

Originally posted by Charcharodonto:

Moving large animals/stuff in a almost riskfree manner.

Now that crypods are available on all maps and far more convenient to use, the quetzal is a poor choice for moving creatures.
For moving lots of items, the argy is a better choice. There are far more argies than quetzals, so finding a breeding pair of good argies is far, far easier and you're likely to have bred, high weight argies by the time you have decent quetzals, but it's faster to just take 2 of your bred argies instead of the quetzal anyway for the same weight, so what's the point?

Originally posted by Charcharodonto:

High carry weight for everything instead of specific resources. also before an argent rivals a quetz in carry weight, you are talking about an imprinted argent with already a high weight stat.

It has a higher carry weight, sure, but not near high enough to justify its snail speed and how bothersome it is to tame one, let alone enough good level ones to breed decent babies.

Originally posted by Charcharodonto:

It still excels at it's role. moving large amounts of Cargo from A to B, it just isn't the fastest and easiest manner of doing so. Just the easiest.

It is not the best for this. 2 argies could carry more and are far easier and quicker to get, and they have a combat use on top of that.



To answer the original question, I'd say the easiest way to improve the quetzal would be to give it a massive weight buff and/or lots of weight reduction bonuses.

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:

To answer the original question, I'd say the easiest way to improve the quetzal would be to give it a massive weight buff and/or lots of weight reduction bonuses.

This mostly, the other jobs it has its still very good at imo, despite cry pods being a thing.
But i since the agry buff, i stopped using them for carrying my burdens, and that means there mostly just parked on the roof or inside the cryo fridge.

[M.R. Smith]

The only time I've ever used a quetz is in Extinction when I wanted to tame the Desert Titan and I watched a video on how to build a very simple metal structure on the back of a quetz to make you immune to the desert titan flock dismount ability.

Other than that, I've never had a use for one (I do play single player though, so...). So yeah, I guess they could need a buff in some way.

[Bulborb87]

honestly the Quetzal need's a speed increase BADLY because of how slow they are.....heck even giving them a weight reduction on specific resources would also help out a lot

but yea like Chaser said the Quetzal doesn't have much to offer these day's due to their lumbering speed (seriously Argy's have been a main stay from day 1 as they are the most versatile flyer's and a jack-of-all-trades, plus since their update they became even better flying pickup trucks)

but still even with transporting a wild creature to someplace safe to tame....the quetzal is just currently outclassed by creature's like the Argy, Wyvern & Karkinos