ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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Nacy Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:02pm
Written requirements is 60gb but game wants 100gbs space to download?
Uhmmm the title? am i doing something wrong?
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KitsuneShiro Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:07pm 
The DLCs assets keep increasing the size, store page not updated
Nacy Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by KitsuneShiro:
The DLCs assets keep increasing the size, store page not updated
Welp thats great, instant refund they still get to keep my money for 1-3work days tho...
Leslie Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:30pm 
The files you download are compressed. After download, those "new" files get uncompressed. Then the steam download system creates a copy of the original files in a temp area, the original files are replaced. When everything is completed and finished, then the downloaded files, and the temp copies are deleted. So, for a brief period, the required space for updating can be considerably larger.

The base game... without mods, without any saved game files, without battleye, and with a pristine new map file without a lot of bases, tames, players, etc included... is under 60 gigs.
x0Z3ro0x Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:34pm 
lmfao xDDDD

Yes you are doing something wrong. You have mistaken steam for newegg and ark for a new hard drive. You aren't buying space you're buying a game. The second your deciding factor on spending your money was the space a game took. You screwed up.

No chance in hell you were honest with the refund department. Somehow they left out the "cream puff didn't get his way" option.
Nacy Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:40pm 
When a game lists the req storage its their responsibility to list the correct numbers, my laptop only has an ssd and i cant free up 100gbs of space. If it says 60gbs of storage is required i assume that all will be good if i see "60gbs free space" sentence of my drive. Their lazy coding is not my fault
Leslie Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:46pm 
Your beef may well be with Steam. Wildcard has kept their neccessary game files just under 60 gigs. It is the Steam download process that requires the extra space.
Splitting hairs, yes, I know.

But the truth is, if you download the game and don't acquire any mods, don't acquire any DLCs, don't update without a separate drive available, don't build or tame much, and delete all your saved game files diligently, you can run Ark at 60 gigs.
Nacy Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:54pm 
Originally posted by Leslie:
Your beef may well be with Steam. Wildcard has kept their neccessary game files just under 60 gigs. It is the Steam download process that requires the extra space.
Splitting hairs, yes, I know.

But the truth is, if you download the game and don't acquire any mods, don't acquire any DLCs, don't update without a separate drive available, don't build or tame much, and delete all your saved game files diligently, you can run Ark at 60 gigs.
Sadly i cant download it at all if i could it wouldnt matter but with only 220gbs of space split between C and D drives 30-40gbs being taken by windows files on C and D only having 96.6gbs space im literally unable to download this game.
x0Z3ro0x Dec 23, 2018 @ 5:56pm 
Originally posted by Nacy:
When a game lists the req storage its their responsibility to list the correct numbers, my laptop only has an ssd and i cant free up 100gbs of space. If it says 60gbs of storage is required i assume that all will be good if i see "60gbs free space" sentence of my drive. Their lazy coding is not my fault

First of all they did. The base game is 60GB after full install. This is of course brand new and without DLC. They don't claim the DOWNLOAD is 60gb they claim the finished installed product is 60gb and it is.This issue has nothing to do with lazy coding.It's your fault because like so many other half sharpened pencils, you ASSUMED.

If you are seeing the message you have 60gb free on your hard drive, then you clearly don't have space for games. You ASSUMED wrong like every other person who assumes and hopes it will work out. Your Operating system requires about 20GB give or take of that so called free space and despite you assuming that it was used on installation it wasn't.

You see it needs free space simply to operate. Which means you seeing a message of 60gb of free space means you actually only have about half that roughly. In all honesty you are full now. But we all know we push our computers to the max. So even if you installed a 40gb game. Your PC is going to lag horribly, you will be spammed with windows space messages, and you cant play the game anyway.

This isn't a developer issue it's a YOU issue.

Originally posted by Nacy:
Sadly i cant download it at all if i could it wouldnt matter but with only 220gbs of space split between C and D drives 30-40gbs being taken by windows files on C and D only having 96.6gbs space im literally unable to download this game.

So not only do you have an incredibly small hard drive for being in 2018, but you took that ssd. Split it into two partitions making it even smaller then decided to use one section of that drive for your OS and the other for games? Is that right? To top it off it's all being done on a laptop?

Yeah I have no clue why you would be running into space issues...
Last edited by x0Z3ro0x; Dec 23, 2018 @ 6:03pm
Nacy Dec 23, 2018 @ 6:07pm 
Originally posted by x0Z3ro0x:
Originally posted by Nacy:
When a game lists the req storage its their responsibility to list the correct numbers, my laptop only has an ssd and i cant free up 100gbs of space. If it says 60gbs of storage is required i assume that all will be good if i see "60gbs free space" sentence of my drive. Their lazy coding is not my fault

First of all they did. The base game is 60GB after full install. This is of course brand new and without DLC. They don't claim the DOWNLOAD is 60gb they claim the finished installed product is 60gb and it is.This issue has nothing to do with lazy coding.It's your fault because like so many other half sharpened pencils, you ASSUMED.

If you are seeing the message you have 60gb free on your hard drive, then you clearly don't have space for games. You ASSUMED wrong like every other person who assumes and hopes it will work out. Your Operating system requires about 20GB give or take of that so called free space and despite you assuming that it was used on installation it wasn't.

You see it needs free space simply to operate. Which means you seeing a message of 60gb of free space means you actually only have about half that roughly. In all honesty you are full now. But we all know we push our computers to the max. So even if you installed a 40gb game. Your PC is going to lag horribly, you will be spammed with windows space messages, and you cant play the game anyway.

This isn't a developer issue it's a YOU issue.

Yeah, no when i said "60gb free" it was rhetorical i keep free space on my c drive for windows to operate and use D for games. It is lazy coding because they make you download excessive files only to be deleted as they arent required for the base game. "Free disk space requirement = 60gbs" I didnt assume anything that i wasnt supposed to, you cant put that sh*t up there and make people play the guessing game, mhmmmm it says 60gbs but maybeee it ll make me clear up almost 1.5 times the size they listed as required mhmmm i shouldnt assume anything. Actually let me clear up 200gbs more juuuust to be safe.
General Frost Dec 23, 2018 @ 6:08pm 
yea mine takes 167 gigs with all dlc installed.
x0Z3ro0x Dec 23, 2018 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Nacy:

Yeah, no when i said "60gb free" it was rhetorical i keep free space on my c drive for windows to operate and use D for games. It is lazy coding because they make you download excessive files only to be deleted as they arent required for the base game. "Free disk space requirement = 60gbs" I didnt assume anything that i wasnt supposed to, you cant put that sh*t up there and make people play the guessing game, mhmmmm it says 60gbs but maybeee it ll make me clear up almost 1.5 times the size they listed as required mhmmm i shouldnt assume anything. Actually let me clear up 200gbs more juuuust to be safe.

Again they very clearly state the GAME is 60gb they have NO information about the download. So how did you think it was going to get installed on your computer? Just magically fly out your backside into your computer hard drive??

Little thing called download and install process. What you call lazy coding the rest of the world calls functionality. Those files aren't needed for the game, which is why that "lazy coding" cleans up after it's all done instead of leaving it on your hard drive like real lazy coding. They are however needed for getting those files from your magical backside to your computer.

So yes you did assume. You assumed that them telling you their game is 60gb that no other space would be required. You didn't however bother to take into consideration the process of which the files get on your PC.

The same process mind you that is done for EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM YOU HAVE EVER DOWNLOADED. Or do you think that's just magical fairy farts as well? What's that???? NO way????? You mean every single program including your operating system has extra files they deleted after full install because they are only needed to install??? Wow...mind blowing stuff right there.
Nacy Dec 23, 2018 @ 6:21pm 
Originally posted by x0Z3ro0x:
Originally posted by Nacy:

Yeah, no when i said "60gb free" it was rhetorical i keep free space on my c drive for windows to operate and use D for games. It is lazy coding because they make you download excessive files only to be deleted as they arent required for the base game. "Free disk space requirement = 60gbs" I didnt assume anything that i wasnt supposed to, you cant put that sh*t up there and make people play the guessing game, mhmmmm it says 60gbs but maybeee it ll make me clear up almost 1.5 times the size they listed as required mhmmm i shouldnt assume anything. Actually let me clear up 200gbs more juuuust to be safe.

Again they very clearly state the GAME is 60gb they have NO information about the download. So how did you think it was going to get installed on your computer? Just magically fly out your backside into your computer hard drive??

Little thing called download and install process. What you call lazy coding the rest of the world calls functionality. Those files aren't needed for the game, which is why that "lazy coding" cleans up after it's all done instead of leaving it on your hard drive like real lazy coding. They are however needed for getting those files from your magical backside to your computer.

So yes you did assume. You assumed that them telling you their game is 60gb that no other space would be required. You didn't however bother to take into consideration the process of which the files get on your PC.

The same process mind you that is done for EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM YOU HAVE EVER DOWNLOADED. Or do you think that's just magical fairy farts as well? What's that???? NO way????? You mean every single program including your operating system has extra files they deleted after full install because they are only needed to install??? Wow...mind blowing stuff right there.

You do understand that it is not possible that it takes 40gbs of files to install a 60gb game right?

Because Dayz is a 13.6gb game and steam downloads 13.6gbs and hurray! its playable.

Arma3 which is a 33gb game that downloads 33gbs and hurray! its playable.

Rocket league is a 8gb game that downloads 8gbs and hurray! its playable.

By your logic the data usage would be so f*cking high that verizon could buy the universe.

100gbs of space is required, after installation it shrinks to 60gbs of files for the base game, so what you are saying is that in order to download install and setup a 60gb game we need 40gbs of extra installation/setup apps,scripts,luas,etc etc...

You are a very special kind of stupid.
x0Z3ro0x Dec 23, 2018 @ 6:44pm 
Originally posted by Nacy:

You do understand that it is not possible that it takes 40gbs of files to install a 60gb game right?

Because Dayz is a 13.6gb game and steam downloads 13.6gbs and hurray! its playable.

Arma3 which is a 33gb game that downloads 33gbs and hurray! its playable.

Rocket league is a 8gb game that downloads 8gbs and hurray! its playable.

By your logic the data usage would be so f*cking high that verizon could buy the universe.

100gbs of space is required, after installation it shrinks to 60gbs of files for the base game, so what you are saying is that in order to download install and setup a 60gb game we need 40gbs of extra installation/setup apps,scripts,luas,etc etc...

You are a very special kind of stupid.

You just called someone stupid after making the worlds worst comparison. You just beat the moron that compared apples to oranges. If you were half as smart as you claim, you would know comparing games is pointless. Esp when a single game can have bugs for one user that isn't present for the next. Yeah let's take that inconsistency and compare it with other non related inconsistencies. But let's overlook that stroke of genius comparison because it get's better.

Im the stupid one, yet you're the one that took a horrible ssd drive of ridiculous space for 2018 gaming, and made it even smaller and slower by splitting it into two partitions and overloading it with so much content you have to monitor space and moderate what games can be played. But again let's overlook that stroke of genius as well, because you tipped that hat once again by powering all of this on an internet connection that not only throttles speed, they have data. You clearly aren't equipped for gaming.

Data usage is high, but Verizon can't buy the universe because only a handful of people are as smart as you. For the rest of us dummies, we have none throttled data-less, plans that allow us to download our games the same year they were released. But for the really big dummies like me we have TB hard drives because we knew we would be GAMING.

But hey, at least this dummy can play ark. Maybe since you are so smart you can pull a bigger Hard Drive out of your backside like the rest of your expectations.
Last edited by x0Z3ro0x; Dec 23, 2018 @ 6:45pm
Beaver Dec 23, 2018 @ 9:09pm 
it unzips files, so at certain points the game will need the space required for the compressed file, and the extracted content, which makes it take more space than what was downloaded. Also, don't expect ARK to run on a laptop with that small a drive, it would never run because it likely has integrated video memory, so it's good you refunded.
Last edited by Beaver; Dec 23, 2018 @ 9:10pm
Dr. Peeper Dec 23, 2018 @ 9:11pm 
Originally posted by Leslie:
The files you download are compressed. After download, those "new" files get uncompressed. Then the steam download system creates a copy of the original files in a temp area, the original files are replaced. When everything is completed and finished, then the downloaded files, and the temp copies are deleted. So, for a brief period, the required space for updating can be considerably larger.

The base game... without mods, without any saved game files, without battleye, and with a pristine new map file without a lot of bases, tames, players, etc included... is under 60 gigs.

That's bull. It's over 100GB with only TheIsland installed fresh. I just did it on new M2 drive.
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