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Hushed 2018 年 12 月 20 日 下午 6:18
What are ice wyverns good for?
I've been thinking on which wyvern egg i am going to steel lightning, ice, fire, or poison. I know poison is good for pvp and lightning is good for pve (at least that's what i;ve heard) and i don't know much about fire. That is the reason WHY i am asking this question. But the real question is: What is the ice wyvern good for? Does it slow things down so you can tranq them? What do you use it for and what's good about it (what's its special use)?
P.S i am new to wyverns
最后由 Hushed 编辑于; 2018 年 12 月 20 日 下午 6:19
引用自 Leviticus:
I wouldn't recommend it. The ice wyvern ice breath does a decent amount of damage by itself, even without having melee leveled up. I've got a 3k stam 2k weight wyvern on official pve servers who for a side gig, goes and murders alpha carnos for xp. 322.4 melee as of right now. So probably not a good idea to have something that does a fair amount of damage, be your taming mount. As for aberration, unless the server has some kind of mod, wyverns are not allowed on aberration, the map physically wont let you.

What an Ice wyvern can do (with a decent person flying)
-Basically immobilizes slower creatures in the air. Argy's or other slow fliers wont be moving very far for the 10 seconds it's got 50% movement speed. Makes it easier for other wyverns to land their breath attacks.

-Murder machine on the ground against AI. You ice breath, bite 8-9 times, ice breath again, each knockback from the bite keeps the target out of your hitbox while you do damage to it. If you run low on stamina, one last ice breath followed by a C wing flap will let you regen atleast 40-50% of your stam.

-Slow other wyverns during egg runs. You probably shouldn't be the guy carrying the egg to do this but if you can land an icy hit on a fire/poison/lightning wyvern, they will be slowed, allowing for the egg theif to get an easy escape. Other ice wyverns are immune to ice breath debuffs.

-Strafing Primer. You swoop in before the fire or lightning wyverns do and light up the place with your ice breath, making your enemies unable to un-cluster from eachother, the resulting fire strafe or lightning strafe will hit more targets.
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Rotiart 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 12:26 
引用自 dark7np
引用自 Rotiart
Titano killing is the only thing that comes to mind for heavy duty use that wyverns would beat out a 450 bred rex.
If battles is all you can think about, sure...
For the other 80% or so of the game, rexes are beat in mobility, transport, scouting, grabbing dinos and dropping them into a dino pen, farming loot drops...
Griffins, manas, rock drakes, and even tapies best wyvs for mobility. Agents n Quetzals beat wyvs out for cargo, giggles, mens, and mana's beat Em for drop farming by total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ leagues
最后由 Rotiart 编辑于; 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 12:27
Leviticus 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 12:46 
引用自 Rotiart
引用自 dark7np
If battles is all you can think about, sure...
For the other 80% or so of the game, rexes are beat in mobility, transport, scouting, grabbing dinos and dropping them into a dino pen, farming loot drops...
Griffins, manas, rock drakes, and even tapies best wyvs for mobility. Agents n Quetzals beat wyvs out for cargo, giggles, mens, and mana's beat Em for drop farming by total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ leagues
And Wyverns can actually fly. as for weight, carry a weight rav with the wyvern. Not gonna lie, I prefer rock drakes for an all around mobility mount, even to the Managarmr. For a skirmish, I prefer the mana, but if its just going point a to point B, such as rushing wyvern milk back home, or because someone forgot the tributes to the bossfight, drake all the way. Not a bad swimmer either.
Rotiart 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 1:30 
引用自 Jason The CTM
引用自 Rotiart
Griffins, manas, rock drakes, and even tapies best wyvs for mobility. Agents n Quetzals beat wyvs out for cargo, giggles, mens, and mana's beat Em for drop farming by total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ leagues
And Wyverns can actually fly. as for weight, carry a weight rav with the wyvern. Not gonna lie, I prefer rock drakes for an all around mobility mount, even to the Managarmr. For a skirmish, I prefer the mana, but if its just going point a to point B, such as rushing wyvern milk back home, or because someone forgot the tributes to the bossfight, drake all the way. Not a bad swimmer either.
Drakes really are fun. Really fast way to get around, used to be the fastest until Manas came around, but regardless Drakes are a more reliable method of transportation. It's just that Wyverns try to be a jack of all trade, but don't even come close to being the master of any. They have poor health scaling, and no armor, so they're always going to be constricted to backline support. They have okay weight, but are beaten out for utility due to the Argent and even Quetz's maneuverability. They cannot be bred, so you cannot force them to be good weight fliers, or force them to be good tanks, moreover you need a supply of wyvern milk which is something most animals don't need. I just feel like if maybe they were at least breedable their weaknesses would be justified. Alas...
Leviticus 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 2:38 
引用自 Rotiart
引用自 Jason The CTM
And Wyverns can actually fly. as for weight, carry a weight rav with the wyvern. Not gonna lie, I prefer rock drakes for an all around mobility mount, even to the Managarmr. For a skirmish, I prefer the mana, but if its just going point a to point B, such as rushing wyvern milk back home, or because someone forgot the tributes to the bossfight, drake all the way. Not a bad swimmer either.
Drakes really are fun. Really fast way to get around, used to be the fastest until Manas came around, but regardless Drakes are a more reliable method of transportation. It's just that Wyverns try to be a jack of all trade, but don't even come close to being the master of any. They have poor health scaling, and no armor, so they're always going to be constricted to backline support. They have okay weight, but are beaten out for utility due to the Argent and even Quetz's maneuverability. They cannot be bred, so you cannot force them to be good weight fliers, or force them to be good tanks, moreover you need a supply of wyvern milk which is something most animals don't need. I just feel like if maybe they were at least breedable their weaknesses would be justified. Alas...
Wyvern TLC incoming XD
Sicksadpanda 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 3:01 
At this point, I feel like wyverns should just no longer need milk for raising. Keep the milk for imprinting, but have them be able to eat meat.
Hushed 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 5:40 
Don't rock drakes take 3 days and 20 hours of non-stop gameplay just to fully grow them. Because i bought abberation today FOR a rock drake.
Leviticus 2018 年 12 月 25 日 下午 9:13 
引用自 HushedYT
Don't rock drakes take 3 days and 20 hours of non-stop gameplay just to fully grow them. Because i bought abberation today FOR a rock drake.
Nah they take like 9 hours of your time straight for one day then just check on em every 6 hours for the first day, every 8 hours for the 2nd, by day 3 you can pretty much forget about em and they'll raise themselves. Food drops slow and is far more plentiful than wyvern milk.
Sicksadpanda 2018 年 12 月 26 日 上午 12:05 
Rock drake have the same growth as wyverns. The eggs are harder to get for the first time as you definitely will need to fight off rock drakes for an egg. The eggs are located very deep in the hole, in radiation area and about 10-30 rock drakes moving around near the eggs. Once you get the egg, you'll have to climb all the way back to your base safely.

Fortunately, rock Drake's food are much easier than wyverns as they need Nameless venom, which are everywhere. And once you get a rock drake, getting eggs will be much easier, but do be careful to not get it killed.
Hushed 2018 年 12 月 26 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 Jason The CTM
引用自 HushedYT
Don't rock drakes take 3 days and 20 hours of non-stop gameplay just to fully grow them. Because i bought abberation today FOR a rock drake.
Nah they take like 9 hours of your time straight for one day then just check on em every 6 hours for the first day, every 8 hours for the 2nd, by day 3 you can pretty much forget about em and they'll raise themselves. Food drops slow and is far more plentiful than wyvern milk.
thank gosh.
That is so much better than wyverns. That's a huge relief
最后由 Hushed 编辑于; 2018 年 12 月 26 日 上午 8:54
Hushed 2018 年 12 月 26 日 上午 9:03 
Ok. I have decided that i don't need wyverns and i am officially getting a rock drake and griffin instead. Thankyou.
dark7np 2018 年 12 月 26 日 上午 9:04 
Do rock drakes still have the double imprint percentage bug... eh feature?
Hushed 2018 年 12 月 26 日 上午 9:23 
So i can sleep for 9 hours while the rock drake stays fine?
Leviticus 2018 年 12 月 26 日 下午 2:08 
引用自 dark7np
Do rock drakes still have the double imprint percentage bug... eh feature?
Nope but I have a "legacy" rock drake on my official center server, he's the last surviving batch from back when everyone was screaming "the eggs are under the map!" Last january. One nest was still throwing 185's and they were all clones of eachother so the server became stuffed of clones of a single 185 with average stats across the board. But, he got the over 100% imprint bug. Still does, coupled with a 110 armor saddle he shrugs off anything that isn't % based damage.So no vs giga's or vs firewyverns. Anything else is fair game.
最后由 Leviticus 编辑于; 2018 年 12 月 26 日 下午 2:09
Hushed 2018 年 12 月 26 日 下午 3:03 
So wait wait wait... I can sleep for at least 9 hours while my rock drake stays fine? Do they eat nameless venom normally.
最后由 Hushed 编辑于; 2018 年 12 月 26 日 下午 3:07
Leviticus 2018 年 12 月 26 日 下午 3:24 
引用自 HushedYT
So wait wait wait... I can sleep for at least 9 hours while my rock drake stays fine? Do they eat nameless venom normally.
Day 1 when they first hatch. You have to keep an eye on them for 9 hours straight. After that, you really only need to check on them every 6 hours until you're 32 hours in. After that you only need to check on them every 8 hours until 56 hours in. After that, one or two more checks until day 3 then you can just let it worry about itself.

(Warning, this is for standard rates on a Rock Drake with AT LEAST 8k max food at birth,)

They only eat nameless venom during the entire time, last I checked they only ask for snuggles when imprinting. 1 venom gives 500 food. As for getting the venom, Option A is a light pet and (any) meat gathering dino. Go ham on the nameless. In my experience they drop more venom when not affected by charge light, buuuut that could just be coincidence or RNG. Option B is just use a good pump shotgun, and pretend you're playing Nazi Zombies with the nameless, and loot the venom from their corpses. Your call.
最后由 Leviticus 编辑于; 2018 年 12 月 26 日 下午 3:26
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