Element Node harvesting?

[Rotiart]

Which tool is best for element node harvesting? I've heard everything from picks, to hatchets, to manti, to theriz. Anyone got a definite answer?

[Jyandalf]

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Which tool is best for element node harvesting? I've heard everything from picks, to hatchets, to manti, to theriz. Anyone got a definite answer?

Mantis with either pick or hatchet as far as I know since normal dinos can't harvest element naturally

[Rotiart]

Originally posted by 1nc0mp3t3nt_1:

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Which tool is best for element node harvesting? I've heard everything from picks, to hatchets, to manti, to theriz. Anyone got a definite answer?

Mantis with either pick or hatchet as far as I know since normal dinos can't harvest element naturally

Theriz are great for getting shards. Makes me wonder if it's power harvesting, or delicate harvesting.

[Lordbufu]

I tested several things, and to me it seems by hand or a mantis is the way to go, both are possible and equally as effective.

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Originally posted by 1nc0mp3t3nt_1:

Mantis with either pick or hatchet as far as I know since normal dinos can't harvest element naturally

Theriz are great for getting shards. Makes me wonder if it's power harvesting, or delicate harvesting.

Neither since:

- Updated elementnode harvest components to not be harvestable with anything other than metal tools

[Jyandalf]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

I tested several things, and to me it seems by hand or a mantis is the way to go, both are possible and equally as effective.

Isn't the mantis technically gonna be better at harvesting than by hand and metal pick as the meelee damage on a mantis will be astronomically higher than a player character

[Rotiart]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Theriz are great for getting shards. Makes me wonder if it's power harvesting, or delicate harvesting.

Neither since:

- Updated elementnode harvest components to not be harvestable with anything other than metal tools

I was literally harvesting element shards en masse with a theri less than an hour ago.

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by 1nc0mp3t3nt_1:

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

I tested several things, and to me it seems by hand or a mantis is the way to go, both are possible and equally as effective.

Isn't the mantis technically gonna be better at harvesting than by hand and metal pick as the meelee damage on a mantis will be astronomically higher than a player character

The only difference i know is you dont use food/water, and you might have more carry weight.
When using the same quality tools as you it gathers th same amounts, to my knowledge atleast.

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Neither since:

I was literally harvesting element shards en masse with a theri less than an hour ago.

Dang it now i have to test that as well :P

[necaradan666]

I tested that Tek gauntlet super punch getting tons of element statement I saw somewhere, total bs, just destroyed the node with no resources gathered.

[Lordbufu]

I can confirm a Theri also works still, delicate for dust power for shard, but a word of warning it yields less then doing it by hand.

Tested on a 25k node, 2x harvest.

[Rotiart]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

I can confirm a Theri also works still, delicate for dust power for shard, but a word of warning it yields less then doing it by hand.

Tested on a 25k node, 2x harvest.

What about for the outer nodes? It's ♥♥♥♥♥ for the main spire, but I find it gives generous amounts of mint for the outer nodes, which usually only give very small amounts of element regardless of the vein tier.

[Lordbufu]

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

I can confirm a Theri also works still, delicate for dust power for shard, but a word of warning it yields less then doing it by hand.

Tested on a 25k node, 2x harvest.

What about for the outer nodes? It's ♥♥♥♥♥ for the main spire, but I find it gives generous amounts of mint for the outer nodes, which usually only give very small amounts of element regardless of the vein tier.

I was thinking the same thing shortly after posting, but comparing the amount of shards i got with what i usually get with a pick (not counting the main node since yes that is a very bad idea to harvest with a theri), i looks like its slightly less but does add the benefit of having a choice of what you get. The choice being dust or shard, sadly my tickle spec theri went poof for no reason, so im in the process of recovering that atm, but overall it felt like less even with the power speced one i used.

[Rotiart]

Originally posted by Lordbufu:

Originally posted by Rotiart:

What about for the outer nodes? It's ♥♥♥♥♥ for the main spire, but I find it gives generous amounts of mint for the outer nodes, which usually only give very small amounts of element regardless of the vein tier.

I was thinking the same thing shortly after posting, but comparing the amount of shards i got with what i usually get with a pick (not counting the main node since yes that is a very bad idea to harvest with a theri), i looks like its slightly less but does add the benefit of having a choice of what you get. The choice being dust or shard, sadly my tickle spec theri went poof for no reason, so im in the process of recovering that atm, but overall it felt like less even with the power speced one i used.

Baring in mind shards are 10x better than dust?

[Natjur]

A mantis using a metal pickaxe gets more then you using the SAME metal pickaxe

Theriz gets some, but no where at good as a mantis or yourself manually

[Lordbufu]

I wanted to get a larger sample size before drawing a final conclusion, but i have now got like 4-5k shards on a regular basis of a 25k node using a theri headbut\power harvesting (mind you that harvest spec seems to have 0 effect, or atleast in the testing i did). 1k shards = 10 element, so thats about 40-50 element, normaly i get like 1 to 2k shards at best and 4-5k dust using a metal pick (25 element at best). And i defend them solo with 5 rexes and a wyvern atm, so these numbers are lower then they could be, since the rexes break quite a lot of outer nodes.

I think its save to say that using a Theri with power harvesting is a solid way to get extra's from the outer nodes if you want purely element and no dust (dust is heavy and conversion rate is crap), and then juding by that last post from Natjur potentially a Mantis with pickaxes for the center node (Cant confirm, misplaced my mantis so it gonna take a while to find it and test it atm, but looks legit enough so i take his/her word for it).

Still tested at 2x rates, so result might vary on officials.