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Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:06pm
Rock Drakes Physics? Gravity? SCIENCE?
In reality (But I know this is a game) wouldn't a Rock Drakes feathers need to be about as long as its body? And more abundance?

Rock Drake ARK Gamepedia LINK - https://ark.gamepedia.com/Rock_Drake

Feather Dragon DeviantArt - https://www.deviantart.com/guitha/art/Feather-Dragon-366582324

Hopefully those links work...
One is obiously the art of the rock drake. And One of Feather Dragon, which looks almost like a rock drake. BUT more feathers! When you compare the feather length/size it almost makes the Rock Drakes feathers seem redundant. Theres NO way those feathers could support the weight enough to GLIDE. But the Feather Dragon ART you can see its feathers are about as long as its body. And broad enough that it might be able to support its weight better.

What do you guys think? This is just a fun-fact or a post to point out the interesting things that goes on in this game. Not a war XD

(Regardless I LOVE Rock Drakes anyway. Colorful Feathered Drake Things)
Last edited by Thicky-Nicki; Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:12pm
Originally posted by Gran:
Originally posted by 5cott:
Pssssst - Whispers quietly - physics doesn't come into it they aren't real, and never existed (except in myth).

However here is a thought - if a rock drake can only glide, how in the hell does Santa manage with rudolph and crew as they have no aero dynamics no aids and only fur to keep them up.
:steamhappy::steamhappy::steamhappy:

maybe solid-state propulsion on the hoofs and the sledge?
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SamtheCossack Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:20pm 
If you are concerned about physics, ARK may not be your game. In case you haven't noticed, terror birds can glide too, and they have a lot less to work with then Rock Drakes.
Vesuvius Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:38pm 
Erm.... why?.... bats dont have feathers at all... fly just fine.
Sugar Glider.... no feathers... flying fish... definately no feathers.... you c?
Its not about gravity as much as it is aerodynamics... the rock drake doesnt fly... its a controlled fall.

Bees.....
Last edited by Vesuvius; Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:39pm
Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Vesuvius:
Erm.... why?.... bats dont have feathers at all... fly just fine.
Sugar Glider.... no feathers... flying fish... definately no feathers.... you c?
Its not about gravity as much as it is aerodynamics... the rock drake doesnt fly... its a controlled fall.

Bees.....

I used feathers as a reference cuz the rock drake utilizes feathers to glide. Didn't say anything bout' flying. I was just pointing out a fun fact. Haha. The rock drake is far different then a Bat. And the feather framework isnt enough to support its weight in gliding is all I was pointing out for funzies haha.
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Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by SamtheCossack:
If you are concerned about physics, ARK may not be your game. In case you haven't noticed, terror birds can glide too, and they have a lot less to work with then Rock Drakes.

I wasn't complaining about the Physics. I've played this game for like 200+ hours - But I just thought it was something funny to point out about Rock Drakes.
Last edited by Thicky-Nicki; Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:54pm
Vesuvius Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by Yan-Deer-Chan:
Originally posted by Vesuvius:
Erm.... why?.... bats dont have feathers at all... fly just fine.
Sugar Glider.... no feathers... flying fish... definately no feathers.... you c?
Its not about gravity as much as it is aerodynamics... the rock drake doesnt fly... its a controlled fall.

Bees.....

I used feathers as a reference cuz the rock drake utilizes feathers to glide. Didn't say anything bout' flying. I was just pointing out a fun fact. Haha. The rock drake is far different then a Bat.
Yes... but the bat flies without feathers at all is my point.

It would take far less for a rock drake to glide.

Wing suit for example.... (the r/l ones) .... large surface area... very small volume.
Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by Vesuvius:
Originally posted by Yan-Deer-Chan:

I used feathers as a reference cuz the rock drake utilizes feathers to glide. Didn't say anything bout' flying. I was just pointing out a fun fact. Haha. The rock drake is far different then a Bat.
Yes... but the bat flies without feathers at all is my point.

It would take far less for a rock drake to glide.

Wing suit for example.... (the r/l ones) .... large surface area... very small volume.

The bats body framework supports its ability to fly/glide/etc... It has more compact web-like leather-like wings to do its work and its body is smaller. Whereas the <feathers> of that on the <rock drake> are more spaced out. Meaning air can escape between the cracks. The bat has webbed-ish wings which doesn't allow air to easily escape. Which allows it to maintain a steady flight or glide. SO Basically, it’s skin extending from the body that assists them in flight.
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Vesuvius Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:00pm 
I would view the drakes feathers as redundant genetic left overs... much like human hair... they server no purpose since feathers are not required to glide.
Last edited by Vesuvius; Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:00pm
Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Vesuvius:
I would view the drakes feathers as redundant genetic left overs... much like human hair... they server no purpose since feathers are not required to glide.

Yes, feathers are not required for gliding. But thats what the Drake is Utilizing to glide in this situation. Not webbed-wings :p - Which is where the topic was started from. We're talking bout' Rock Drake's feather aerodynamics not webbed-winged bats and their ability to effortlessly fly/glide - REEEE
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Vesuvius Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:25pm 
The drake has plenty of aerodynamics for gliding tho.... dont forget the back legs.... they double the surface area.

https://youtu.be/gCy8HJZb1NY
Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Vesuvius:
The drake has plenty of aerodynamics for gliding tho.... dont forget the back legs.... they double the surface area.

https://youtu.be/gCy8HJZb1NY

Now that you mention the feathered area between the hind legs and the tail. I almost did forget about that. Yet thats why I made this post. Cuz I was wondering if the feathers on the drake could really support a giant behemoth such as its self in aerodynamics. But, I suppose theres the possibility with the feathered hind/legs to do a controlled fall. Good eye!
Last edited by Thicky-Nicki; Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:33pm
Vesuvius Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Yan-Deer-Chan:
Originally posted by Vesuvius:
The drake has plenty of aerodynamics for gliding tho.... dont forget the back legs.... they double the surface area.

https://youtu.be/gCy8HJZb1NY

Now that you mention the feathered area between the hind legs and the tail. I almost did forget about that. Yet thats why I made this post. Cuz I was wondering if the feathers on the drake could really support a giant behemoth such as its self in aerodynamics. But, I suppose theres the possibility with the feathered hind/legs to do a controlled fall.
I think id be questioning the Managarmr tho .... i dont know how light Tek is.... but the *wings* on it dont make much sense since it has thrusters lol.
Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Vesuvius:
Originally posted by Yan-Deer-Chan:

Now that you mention the feathered area between the hind legs and the tail. I almost did forget about that. Yet thats why I made this post. Cuz I was wondering if the feathers on the drake could really support a giant behemoth such as its self in aerodynamics. But, I suppose theres the possibility with the feathered hind/legs to do a controlled fall.
I think id be questioning the Managarmr tho .... i dont know how light Tek is.... but the *wings* on it dont make much sense since it has thrusters lol.

You have a point. But I think the small webbed wings they have are just to support it in air positioning or direction control. Otherwise they have no other real purpose.
Last edited by Thicky-Nicki; Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:39pm
necaradan666 Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:38pm 
needed for direction, not lift ^
Thicky-Nicki Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:38pm 
Originally posted by necaradan666:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Maximilian_Dehling/publication/321785477/figure/fig6/AS:571787420409856@1513336152005/Wings-and-patagia-of-vertebrate-groups-employing-flapping-A-C-and-gliding-D-H-flight.png

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1575660783

That is a good image. I suppose the feathers do extend out further then I imagined. And There is the possibility of a glide with those feathers. The images I observed were more deceiving and made the feathers seem less-than that of what you've shown. So with that image you've shown, I can believe now.
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