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Black4Halo Aug 1, 2018 @ 10:01am
new owl
so the new extinction animal yall think it will be small and a shoulder pet or large and phoenixy and argy (im leaning more towards being a shoulder thing tho earth can have quite a bit of icy biome so maybe this is the reverse scorched earth for us giant snowy owls with dna messed up)
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Leviathan Aug 1, 2018 @ 10:12am 
A shoulder pet that will be able to show you all the animals around you and what level they are, even if they are behind objects? :D
Elliebird Aug 1, 2018 @ 10:31am 
Desperately hoping it's big enough to ride. I need to soar majestically atop an army of owls.
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I get the feeling we won't be getting any rideable flyers, like with aberration.
Hence why we now have the moving storage boxes, the long-jump+slow-fall whatever-it's-called, and mostly the drone.
I can't think of many situations where you would spend a bunch of resources on a drone(they said you'd have to craft in) when you could just fly over yourself, which is one of my biggest reasons for this.
Consider also that we just got some climbing tools from aberration, and the new enforcer we saw can both climb and warp short distances.
The only flyers I could identify in the trailer were dimorphodons, the others at the Titan were unrecognizable to me(maybe owls)

So yea, I'm guessing a shoulder pet.
Elliebird Aug 1, 2018 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Tiny Hippo:
I get the feeling we won't be getting any rideable flyers, like with aberration.
Hence why we now have the moving storage boxes, the long-jump+slow-fall whatever-it's-called, and mostly the drone.
I can't think of many situations where you would spend a bunch of resources on a drone(they said you'd have to craft in) when you could just fly over yourself, which is one of my biggest reasons for this.
Consider also that we just got some climbing tools from aberration, and the new enforcer we saw can both climb and warp short distances.
The only flyers I could identify in the trailer were dimorphodons, the others at the Titan were unrecognizable to me(maybe owls)

So yea, I'm guessing a shoulder pet.

You're probably right. Still, I'll never get over this contempt WC seem to have for flying in general.
If they are shoulder pets, someone will just make a mod version that's bigger and rideable.

I think WC doesn't like flyers because they remove a bunch of the threats in the game.
Most land dinos are worthless if you're a few meters above them, so being able to just fly safely over everything throws off the game balance
I kinda understand it, really. But if they don't want flyers, they need to add another way to travel from place to place quickly without spending thousands of resources on a teleporter.
Elliebird Aug 1, 2018 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Tiny Hippo:
If they are shoulder pets, someone will just make a mod version that's bigger and rideable.

I think WC doesn't like flyers because they remove a bunch of the threats in the game.
Most land dinos are worthless if you're a few meters above them, so being able to just fly safely over everything throws off the game balance
I kinda understand it, really. But if they don't want flyers, they need to add another way to travel from place to place quickly without spending thousands of resources on a teleporter.

My problem with that is how easily it can be fixed. If the reason they don't want people to fly is because it removes threat of land dinos, then put threats in the air for us to deal with. It doesn't have to be other dinos, it could be mechanics relating to the birds themselves, or they could expand on the effects weather has on them.

I feel like this is just another example of how WC approaches these problems, such as the flyer nerf. Instead of tweaking something until it works, they go with the extreme options to smash the problem into pieces. I know not everyone likes flying, but for me it is an extremely enjoyable aspect of the game that doesn't need to take away gameplay elements.

For Aberration, I could understand not having flyers. For that specific map and what they were trying to emphasize in it, that made sense to me. But I'm not convinced that any of the other maps have a need for that sort of restriction.
Last edited by Elliebird; Aug 1, 2018 @ 11:08am
Boomer Voncannon Aug 1, 2018 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Elenwei:
Desperately hoping it's big enough to ride. I need to soar majestically atop a fleet of owls.

Fixed.
Boomer Voncannon Aug 1, 2018 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Elenwei:
Originally posted by Tiny Hippo:
If they are shoulder pets, someone will just make a mod version that's bigger and rideable.

I think WC doesn't like flyers because they remove a bunch of the threats in the game.
Most land dinos are worthless if you're a few meters above them, so being able to just fly safely over everything throws off the game balance
I kinda understand it, really. But if they don't want flyers, they need to add another way to travel from place to place quickly without spending thousands of resources on a teleporter.

My problem with that is how easily it can be fixed. If the reason they don't want people to fly is because it removes threat of land dinos, then put threats in the air for us to deal with. It doesn't have to be other dinos, it could be mechanics relating to the birds themselves, or they could expand on the effects weather has on them.

I feel like this is just another example of how WC approaches these problems, such as the flyer nerf. Instead of tweaking something until it works, they go with the extreme options to smash the problem into pieces. I know not everyone likes flying, but for me it is an extremely enjoyable aspect of the game that doesn't need to take away gameplay elements.

For Aberration, I could understand not having flyers. For that specific map and what they were trying to emphasize in it, that made sense to me. But I'm not convinced that any of the other maps have a need for that sort of restriction.

Agree with just about all of this.
Mringasa Aug 1, 2018 @ 1:06pm 
Flyers were ridiculously out of hand though. I can understand why they just decided to nerf them into the ground. I personally don't find it to be a nerf, I'm truly loving the new TLC Argy with weight reductions, but I also do not PvP. People should understand though, this is what happens when you abuse a game mechanic to the point of it being a cheat. WC didn't cause this, it was the playerbase.

I'm sure there were other reasons for the nerf, but this was the biggest crying and whining I saw at the time. If the playerbase didn't abuse mechanics, and glitches tbh, then things like flyers getting the heavyhanded treatment wouldn't happen.

That won't occur though. In a competitive game there will always be someone to abuse everything they can, and some things they shouldn't. If one person does it, everyone will do it because "It's not fair if they are. We have to too so that the fights are even and balanced." It's the nature of the game.

That being said, I'd love a new flyer. Riding on an owl would be pretty freakin awesome. Not sure where it would fit in the various categories though. Maybe you could "see" through its eyes somehow for long distance scouting? Some sort of mutation or tech engram perhaps. Perhaps even to the point of controlling it somehow for a limited duration before it came back to you.
Black4Halo Aug 1, 2018 @ 4:55pm 
maybe its a shoulder pet that allows for insulation (its a pretty fluffy pet) it looks like a snow owl so maybe its either a shoulder or rideable that gives you insulation kinda like the lio with oxygen and the thing about drones and flying is that the drone can go into the frey possibly the flyer takes damage from corruption and cannot
Black4Halo Aug 1, 2018 @ 4:59pm 
hilarious scenario what if this owl is like a titan on the sky and is actually the size of the giant owl from avatar the last airbender XD
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Date Posted: Aug 1, 2018 @ 10:01am
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