ARK: Survival Evolved

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Nokim Aug 27, 2018 @ 8:54am
Island - Boss fight Dino management
My tribe did our fist boss fights this weekend. 11trex,7 allos, 1pig, 1 yuti.
we found a few problems.
1.pig being the only way to heal the dinos as sweetcakes apparently don't work on them.
2.the dinos will wander off boss to fight the adds
3. a lack of buff control(heal, yuti)

how do you guys tackle these issues?

the green spider boss was cake, the dinos pretty much did it all,Then we tried the Beta spider and it killed the pig, and 6 rexes. Mostly because the rexes kept wandering off wasting dps on the little add spiders.

Alpha is next but we need to work out how to better focus dinos on just the boss and keep them healed. The heal part we think just 2 pigs instead of 1. but how do you keep them all focused on just the boss?

also we experienced a death on zone out, the player was not riding anything and was just standing near dinos. Then second run player was left behind on cave for no reason.You would think by now they would have fixed it so players can manually port out of battle zone if they are left behind.

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KitsuneShiro Aug 27, 2018 @ 8:58am 
Cakes only work on herbivores. Like the theriz.

You may have to keep whistling attack this target.
Nokim Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by KitsuneShiro:
Cakes only work on herbivores. Like the theriz.

You may have to keep whistling attack this target.

its dark as hell in the cave and with all those big dinos its hard to see the boss to target it, much less try to help dps by hitting it. We think the only way to contribute dps might be grenades/rockets.
1. Cakes are only supposed to work on herbivores.
2. Most likely, they're on attack your target and are attacking an add spider that you hit on accident. Just whistle "attack this target" on Lysrix and they should focus again.
3. I like to have the deaodon and yuty ridden so the players can be 100% sure they'll use their buffs appropriately.
If you want more heals, get 2 more daeodons, but only have 1 active at a time. Their heal gets a small boost when they're in a group, but having more than 1 active at a time is a pointless waste of food.
You can also forcefeed daeodons any kibbles at lightspeed to regenerate their food if needed.
I've never actually experienced the death when teleporting thing myself, but if you're having problems with it I'd recommend sitting at the terminal before you teleport back.
Boomer Voncannon Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:08am 
Are your rexes in a tame group in order to improve coordination? If not this should help.

Also be advised that allo pack leader bleed does not work on bosses, so if this is why you’re using allows, you may want to reconsider.
Last edited by Boomer Voncannon; Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:10am
Also, I recommend keeping the yuty out of the fight if the yuty gets low at all. It is the single most important dino in the boss fight, do not let it die.
Nokim Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:21am 
we did the allos for dps, none of them died.theres 4 of us in the fight so i guess ill have to split up everyone into riding duty. 2 on pigs 1 on yuti and someone to focus all dinos on boss.

btw is it just me or does the trex roar have an agro effect? my best trex i call the king, mostly because its armor is 3xs stronger than the rest. I tried it a few times after i did by mistake and it felt like every time i roared the boss would focus on the king. Coincidence or is it a thing?
Lordbufu Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:25am 
The Yuri roar range is very big, it should be buffing dino's from as far aways as possible, test the range outside the arena if you must. Dont worry about adds attacking it, you can fear them (well there not really feared, but they do get a huge knockback from it).

Like boomer said taming groups might help (1 for rexes, 1 for allo's and 1 for support dino's (yuti and pig)), and spread groups between your tribe members.
Even though its dark in the arena, it should still be light enough to see the big boss incase you do need to whisle your dino's back onto it.

And try to ride as many dino's as possible, they do more dps or simply work better when ridden.

It's all about managing your whisles basiclly, although when i did it solo i never had the dino's go after the adds, because i ignored the adds and burned down the boss with 16 rexes. Only lost my pigs on Alpha because i send them in to early and dint pull em back at all.
Last edited by Lordbufu; Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:28am
Originally posted by Nokim:
we did the allos for dps, none of them died.theres 4 of us in the fight so i guess ill have to split up everyone into riding duty. 2 on pigs 1 on yuti and someone to focus all dinos on boss.
Just make sure the 2 war pigs don't heal at the same time, and that they communicate to know when/if the other runs out of food. Since you have 2, make sure they're opposite genders for the mate boost too.

Originally posted by Nokim:
btw is it just me or does the trex roar have an agro effect? my best trex i call the king, mostly because its armor is 3xs stronger than the rest. I tried it a few times after i did by mistake and it felt like every time i roared the boss would focus on the king. Coincidence or is it a thing?
I've never noticed this before and I've never seen anything about this, but I guess it kinda makes sense.
Try it against smaller things like some random wild rex.

Last thing, the power gap between beta and alpha broodmother is pretty big. If you're losing 7 rexes against beta, you'll probably lose everything to alpha.
Run the beta until you can kill it with very few/no losses, or I'd say you're most likely going to lose to alpha.
Last edited by Chaser the Tiny Hippo; Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:28am
Jahon Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:38am 
For solo bosses I just go with bred rex and 1 yuti (that I ride). Rex are all 200+ with points in health and melee only. I position so I can whistle attack the boss.

Gamma broodmother 12 rex are usually enough with no losses (basic saddles). Beta I use 12-15 rex (40k health and 700% damage at least). Upgraded saddles highly recommended.

Alpha I've only done once. 15 rex all with master or better saddles, 60k health and 1k melee (took a lot of breeding and resources). Lost 3 rex.

More than 15 rex gets a bit too crowded around the obelisk for me. :)

Your mileage may vary.
Boomer Voncannon Aug 27, 2018 @ 9:39am 


Originally posted by Nokim:
we did the allos for dps, none of them died.theres 4 of us in the fight so i guess ill have to split up everyone into riding duty. 2 on pigs 1 on yuti and someone to focus all dinos on boss.

btw is it just me or does the trex roar have an agro effect? my best trex i call the king, mostly because its armor is 3xs stronger than the rest. I tried it a few times after i did by mistake and it felt like every time i roared the boss would focus on the king. Coincidence or is it a thing?

If you're using allos for dps, but they are dying, this is a sign that you should trade them out for rexes. The only advantage allos have vs a rex in a boss fight is greater speed and manuverability. Against some of the other bosses this can matter, but against broodmother, who tends not to move around too much, it matters little. Greater base hp and damage of the rex is the order of the day.
Cobretti Aug 27, 2018 @ 4:35pm 
I ride the yuti so I can yell at rexes and control that part of fight

All rexes in 1 tame group, support in another. Support on passive. Pigs (i use 2) set to heal before we go in. They don't waste food if there is nothing to heal.

As soon as fight starts I mount first dino I can find for vision, see boss, tame group 1 attack

Once rexes move out, find yuti and mount, tame group 2 follow me, stand behind rexes and spam roar.

Once buffed up I might move some rexes around behind boss so more are hitting boss but this is risky on a yuty due to low hp but if I had tribe mates I would have them on rexes herding if needed.

I do all this more out of doing a proper boss fight but I don't need healing for gamma / beta though replacing with rexes is a waste as there would be too many offensive dinos and not all would hit boss.

Never experienced dinos wandering off boss though
Last edited by Cobretti; Aug 27, 2018 @ 7:11pm
Jahon Aug 28, 2018 @ 9:16am 
Originally posted by Cobretti:
Never experienced dinos wandering off boss though

I've seen this if I attack any adds due to all the rex being set on Attack Target. A quick attack whistle at the boss sets them back on target.
Boomer Voncannon Aug 28, 2018 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Cobretti:
I ride the yuti so I can yell at rexes...

... I would have them on rexes herding if needed....

I can't decide if "Ride the Yuti"

or

"Herding Rexes" is the better name for my Ark convention events cover band.

"Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining us here at E3. This next little number is one I'm sure you'll recognize. With apologies to Jimmy Hendrix, we like to call it All along the turret tower."
Last edited by Boomer Voncannon; Aug 28, 2018 @ 9:46am
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