Ran out of stamina 100 feet from shore in scuba equipment.

[Cats_In_Love]

I tried to get some clue in another discussion but apparently I wasn't specific enough. So I've been down to the cave with pearls in scuba gear. I had plenty of time to futz around before returning. So today, I put on my gear, go from the shore out about 100 to 300 feet. I know what a football length is so it wasn't that far. I went out to the first oil resource only to find I was out of stamina when I turned to return. I waited for a bit and no stamina returned. Checked food and water, fine. I managed to creep back, ever so slowly. So I asked a quick question in a thread I found, a bug thread that was similar. I pretty much got dismissed by someone overworked and just trying to clear the desk. And frankly, some of the replies to the OP's question were rather dismissive. Like, "well this isn't the game for you." That's a bit rude. Anyway, so I tried it again, same thing, just to be sure. Yes, I wasn't 30 second out, to the first resource and my stamina was gone. I'm in scuba gear. 30 seconds in scuba gear doesn't qualify as a "you're not careful" . The problem I've encountered is similar to going to far with no equipment but not the same. Everything is in the details. I"ve been experiencing another unrelated problem recently. Suddenly I can't get dino's to train. I've done this one a dozen times. Now nothing. But I can't swim a hundred feet in scuba gear. So a bit more then "yeah, you die if you aren't careful" would be helpful. I have an undergrad deree in engineering so I already get that much.

So what other problems might account for having no stamina after 30 seconds in a short swim in scuba gear?

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take a chair, you can place and pick up under water, sit on it to get your stam back.

[Cats_In_Love]

That's great. Something I can actually do. It doesn't explain the obvious problem that I didn't get but 1% of the time I spent days ago. I discovered creative mode recently. Things, perhaps, coincidently have gone awry since and I've been wondering if this is coincidental or if I did something. Maybe an option I've messed up when I discovered I could do things like change length of day (discoverd creative mode then.) Or I've put the gear on wrong? Do leather pants create a problem. Something has to explain 30 seconds to no stamina. I didn't want to get into a combination and permutation troubleshooting thing with the game. I do that all day long at work. But I do enjoy it (till recently) so I'd do a video showing the issue if there is an avenue for presenting it. At work, I generally begin by starting the job over if needed but the game has far more time invested in it to just deleted the entire character. I have gotten a long way with the help wikis and forum, up till now, but this one has me stumped and it's a game killer.

[Ghost]

Mining under water? Could this be a weight issue?.

[Cats_In_Love]

Well, I though of that. I spent like 5 minutes collecting oil the first time out. Went from resource to resource. This was one resource collection then I was toast. And I was carrying bare minimum tools with me. No way a weight issue was it. I do wish I could post the screenshot. You'd laugh. My dead man marker is a hundred feet off shore. I was just off the edge of the first drop in elevation. It's so absurd.

I had adjusted some options. I considered this but wasn't having issues with being killed by dinos. I am fine on stamina on land. I don't recall seperate water/land stamina settings.

It's obviously something that isn't right. So I do appreciate your perfectly fine ideas there.

[Cats_In_Love]

Is there some sort of cheat so I don't have to respawn at a random location with all my tools gone? It would really help in trying to troubleshoot because dying repeatedly is expensive.

[Ghost]

Death helper mod helps there. Also u can teleport via command. See ark wiki for deets(sorry to say)

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Cats_In_Love:

Is there some sort of cheat so I don't have to respawn at a random location with all my tools gone? It would really help in trying to troubleshoot because dying repeatedly is expensive.

Have you constructed and placed a bed?
You can respawn at a bed.

You still have to go retrieve your stuff, but at least you'll have a fixed respawn point. Maybe place other beds in other locations. If you think you're about to do something dangerous, throw down a sleeping bag. You can only use it once, but it can also be picked back up if you didn't use it.

[JDaremo Fireheart]

LOL, sucks when that happens . . . usually when there are Megalodons about

[Cats_In_Love]

I have a bag with me. Cant seem to repeat spawning at chosen loction. I thought it was a matter of clicking on the map but missed something

[Heretic]

you do not regen stamina underwater even with scuba. unless you use laz chowder or sit on something. Beds have cool downs. and if its single player you could use cheats found here https://ark.gamepedia.com/Console_Commands

[Puri]

I'm not sure what answers you expect now. Even in scuba gear you do not reg stamina in water, that's the obvious answer to your question. You swam too deep, then used your stamina on "mining" the oil, and did not have enough to return.
The obvious solution to this is to put more points into stamina, use appropriate buff food, use any underwater dino or use the chair exploit.

Claiming " 30 seconds in scuba gear doesn't qualify as a "you're not careful" ." is not very helpful, as it seems 30 seconds diving is enough to use up all (or most) of your stamina.
There can also be weird settings for the server, or it might indeed be a bug. But to analyze that we would need more information than what you gave us, preferably a video.

[GobboKirk]

Originally posted by gfish_:

take a chair, you can place and pick up under water, sit on it to get your stam back.

Yet another trick I didn't know :)

[Sosina]

I think the Scuba tank itself might be bugged. I get the stamina drain while mounted on a water pet (like the basilo), and if I start sprinting with the scuba gear on, *my* stamina starts to slowly drain and not recover unless I dismount my mount and mount back up again quickly.

*edited some minutes later* ....nvm. I got the stam problem on my aqua mounts, no matter if I am using my tek gear or my scuba gear. :(

[GobboKirk]

Originally posted by Sosina:

I think the Scuba tank itself might be bugged. I get the stamina drain while mounted on a water pet (like the basilo), and if I start sprinting with the scuba gear on, *my* stamina starts to slowly drain and not recover unless I dismount my mount and mount back up again quickly.

I noticed mine vanished after getting amonite sprayed, or was it squid, one of them at least.
It didn't kick back until I dismounted and got back on.
No idea if intended, but seemed a bit iffy.

[Cats_In_Love]

Originally posted by Puri:

I'm not sure what answers you expect now. Even in scuba gear you do not reg stamina in water, that's the obvious answer to your question. You swam too deep, then used your stamina on "mining" the oil, and did not have enough to return.
The obvious solution to this is to put more points into stamina, use appropriate buff food, use any underwater dino or use the chair exploit.

Puri,

Regulating means "control or maintain the rate or speed ". If the rate at which stamina changes depends on weight, then weight regulates stamina, it is controlling it. If stamina changes regularly over time, regardless of any variablei, that is it has a determined rate of change, then it is regulated. It is aging and aging is being regulated by time.

Unregulated would be that either goes to zero instantaniously, never changes, or change randomly. Going to zero instantaneously is not what it does. If this were true, the swimmer would never move from the instance he put on the gear and entered the water. Clearly stamina is not constant as if this were the case, there would be no discussion here. The character could swim forever.

Lastly, stamina fluctuating randomly without regard to time or any other variables would be unregualted. That is it would go down quickly, then slowly, then not at all, then fall to zero at which point there would be none. If you believe this, then I challange you to demonstrate it. After all, you originally claimed that it was used by mining oil.