ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:24pm
Everything about Resources and Crafting is Stupid
Like, one of the very first things you need is Thatch. Why do you need Thatch for some of the recipes? Who knows, but you need Thatch, lots of it, even for things you shouldn't need it for. Ok, Now obviously, you should go harvest big leafy plants right? For binding, obviously, the tougher and more elastic the plant the better. Nope, just berries and fiber for days, but no thatch.

How to get thatch? PUNCH A TREE... Yeah that makes sense, die like 15 times because you didn't intuit that Punching a tree was how to get thatch.

Ok, figured that out, let's say now you need a lot of stone, how do you get a lot of stone? Using a pick to bust up rocks right? WRONG! You use an AXE on rocks.

BTW, you can bust a HUGE rock face that should be big enough to carve tunnels through with a few swings like they're nothing, oh yeah, that's realistic. And Materials weigh a lot more than finished products, so let's say you're not happy with that Stone Wall you built because it's facing the wrong direction, you demolish it, surprise you're too encumbered to move now even though you weren't encumbered a second ago when you just placed it. Yeah that makes so much sense.

It's like the only research the Devs put into making this game was to watch Jurassic Park and play Minecraft for a day.
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👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:31pm 
I like how it just takes an arbitrary number of materials to build everything, the ingredients make no sense, and the source of the raw materials make no sense, for just about everything in this game. You can not use logic and intuition to survive when it comes to crafting you HAVE to use some guide or wiki because everything is so damn stupid and nonsensical.
Hrodh Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:31pm 
Wow.... there'a so much stupid in your post, there must be enough sand in your crotch to make a new beach somewhere...
Seriously it's a game... If you don't know how to play, watch one of the gazillion videos on YouTube ffs
👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:43pm 
Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
Wow.... there'a so much stupid in your post

You're just upset because I criticized a game you like, but everything I said is accurate and you know it is.

Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
Seriously it's a game...

It's a game that punishes you for using logic and intuition and has a moronic crafting system.

Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
If you don't know how to play, watch one of the gazillion videos on YouTube ffs

Yeah you have to watch Youtube or use a guide with this game because everything about how crafting works in Ark is stupid and you can't use reason and logic to figure anything out. You punch a tree to get thatch, how moronic is that? Once you have an axe you USE A PICK on a tree to get more thatch. That's so freaking dumb. You harvest stone with an axe, it's STUPID, and you know it is.
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Eminence Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:48pm 
Lulz go back to Brawlhalla bro. You criticize the most fundamental aspect of every survival sandbox game. All of them do this. If you're going to hate on Ark find a real problem.

Examples:
♥♥♥♥♥♥ PvP balance
Boring taming mechanics
Glitches while Breeding killing tames
Randomly getting pushed through the mesh because you knocked a Spino out and it fell on you
Half of the tames being useless other than to produce kibble for the terrible taking system
Wonky hit boxes on creatures, especially flyers.


Now research this and come back with a new troll rant so I can be entertained by your idiocy again.
Last edited by Eminence; Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:48pm
Hrodh Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:48pm 
Originally posted by 😈:
Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
Wow.... there'a so much stupid in your post

You're just upset because I criticized a game you like, but everything I said is accurate and you know it is.

Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
Seriously it's a game...

It's a game that punishes you for using logic and intuition and has a moronic crafting system.

Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
If you don't know how to play, watch one of the gazillion videos on YouTube ffs

Yeah you have to watch Youtube or use a guide with this game because everything about crafting is stupid.

I'm not upset that you “criticize“ a game I like... It's the fact that you complain about a game being unrealistic where giant Dinosaurs can be equipped with a saddle that shoots lasers and are allowed on the internet.

As for the need to watch videos... you could also use the trial-and-error method, but that wouldn't suit your snowflake mentality of everything being handed to you with no need to work or figure out stuff.

Eminence Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:49pm 
Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
Originally posted by 😈:

You're just upset because I criticized a game you like, but everything I said is accurate and you know it is.



It's a game that punishes you for using logic and intuition and has a moronic crafting system.



Yeah you have to watch Youtube or use a guide with this game because everything about crafting is stupid.

I'm not upset that you “criticize“ a game I like... It's the fact that you complain about a game being unrealistic where giant Dinosaurs can be equipped with a saddle that shoots lasers and are allowed on the internet.

As for the need to watch videos... you could also use the trial-and-error method, but that wouldn't suit your snowflake mentality of everything being handed to you with no need to work or figure out stuff.
On this note I've played about 1500 hours and I figured out gathering and crafting without ever needing to look anything up. Mostly because I use my brain.
👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:50pm 
Originally posted by Eminence:
Originally posted by Hrodvalder:

I'm not upset that you “criticize“ a game I like... It's the fact that you complain about a game being unrealistic where giant Dinosaurs can be equipped with a saddle that shoots lasers and are allowed on the internet.

As for the need to watch videos... you could also use the trial-and-error method, but that wouldn't suit your snowflake mentality of everything being handed to you with no need to work or figure out stuff.
On this note I've played about 1500 hours and I figured out gathering and crafting without ever needing to look anything up. Mostly because I use my brain.
How did you figure out to harvest stone with an axe? How did something that moronic even enter your brain?
👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
Originally posted by 😈:

You're just upset because I criticized a game you like, but everything I said is accurate and you know it is.



It's a game that punishes you for using logic and intuition and has a moronic crafting system.



Yeah you have to watch Youtube or use a guide with this game because everything about crafting is stupid.

I'm not upset that you “criticize“ a game I like.

Yes you are. You ignored the points I made about the crafting system and threw a hissy fit about it.

Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
It's the fact that you complain about a game being unrealistic where giant Dinosaurs can be equipped with a saddle that shoots lasers


None of that breaks the suspension of disbelief in a sci fi world about aliens cloning dinosaurs and throwing down test subjects with special implants.

But harvesting stone with an axe does.

The crafting system is designed stupidly, everything from resource gathering to the weight of items is poorly designed and unpolished.

You know it is, you know that harvesting stone with an axe is stupid, you know that punching trees for thatch is stupid and counter intuitive. That's why instead of arguing that I'm wrong you just threw a hissy fit.
Hrodh Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:55pm 
I use ad hominem attacks because arguing about game mechanics in a video game is too stupid for me... I think its unrealistic to shoot a Rex with tranq arrows until he passes out at which point a forcefeed him meat until he obeys my commands... But I realize that it's a game so I roll with it.

But it has become quite apparent at this point that you're either a troll or really just dumb. In either case, it's not worth it to “argue“ with you anymore.
Eminence Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:56pm 
That's not an ad hominem attack. It was a legitimate recommendation that you return to a game you enjoy. I didn't pick that game because I think it's bad. (Never played it) I picked it because it's the most played game in your library.

Have you ever in your life hit a rock with a hatchet? That ♥♥♥♥ will break apart.

You criticize Ark because you're a troll. You do it poorly because you aren't smart enough to lock onto the actual issues and/or think you'll somehow piss someone off by acting like this.

Ark is literally the most popular survival game on the market. So regardless of your opinion it's not a crappy game according to the masses.

It's easy to figure it. I made a pick, I hit ♥♥♥♥ with it and got resources. So I made a hatchet and hit ♥♥♥♥ with that. When I hit rocks I got stone. When I wanted more stone I hit more rocks.

Keep trying though! :) Idiocy is entertaining to me.
Last edited by Eminence; Feb 2, 2018 @ 10:12pm
DeFox Feb 2, 2018 @ 9:57pm 
Which world have you came from? punching a tree has always be the way to start a survival game according to minecraft.

Also you are in a world with dinosaurs and alien technology, realism isn't really the priority here.
👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
I use ad hominem attacks because arguing about game mechanics in a video game is too stupid for me

Then you either
A: Don't give a crap about the quality of a videogame
or
B: Are just saying that because you don't want to acknowledge legitimate criticisms of Ark's crafting system.

Originally posted by Hrodvalder:
I think its unrealistic to shoot a Rex with tranq arrows until he passes out at which point a forcefeed him meat until he obeys my commands

Harvesting stone with an axe is even more stupid.

At least Stockholm syndrome is a real thing and animals can be broken or domesticated, breaking or domesticating a dinosaur is at least something people would try in real life.

You know what no one would ever try? Chopping down a tree with their fist, harvesting thatch by punching a tree, or using an axe instead of a pick to harvest stone instead of flint.
👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by DeFox:
Which world have you came from? punching a tree has always be the way to start a survival game according to minecraft.

But it hasn't, and also, minecraft doesn't have gravity physics for trees or blocks.

Originally posted by DeFox:
Also you are in a world with dinosaurs and alien technology, realism isn't really the priority here.

So if Stone was made with Wood instead of Stone, and someone pointed that out, would this be your stock response to that person as well? I know it's a videogame, that doesn't mean the crafting system should be so unpolished, poorly designed, counter intuitive, and frankly moronic.
👁 Feb 2, 2018 @ 10:14pm 
Originally posted by Eminence:
That's not a ad hominem attack. It was a legitimate recommendation that you return to a game you enjoy. I didn't pick that game because I think it's bad. (Never played it) I picked it because it's the most played game in your library.

Have you ever in your life hit a rock with a hatchet? That ♥♥♥♥ will break apart.

It will break your axe, it's a waste of a good axe, and you wouldn't get like 90% flint with a pick and 90% stone with an axe in real life that doesn't even make sense.


Originally posted by Eminence:
You criticize Ark because

I criticized Ark because I died 15 times trying to find Thatch and finally looked it up to figure out I had to PUNCH A TREE.

I criticize Ark because I had a shortage of Stone and found out that I should have been using an axe instead of a pick this whole time.

I criticize Ark because after spending hours punching trees for Thatch (because Axe hardly gives any) I finally hit one with a pick and got thatch, which makes no freaking sense.

I Criticize Ark because I got frozen in place for breaking a wall that faced the wrong direction even though I had just placed it, because I was encumbered due to irrational item weight.

I criticize Ark because everything about resource gathering and crafting is unpolished and illogical.

And you respond by insulting me because you know I'm right and insulting me is the only come back you're capable of.
Hrodh Feb 2, 2018 @ 10:16pm 
C'mon guys, don't feed the troll.
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