Constant heat in Abberation

[Aether]

Just wanted to say, Abberation feels...out of place with this heat.

SE is a Desert, it makes sense why it would be insanely hot during the day, and cold during the night.

Abberation takes place underground, and while I haven't been able to explore the deeper sections of the map (due to traveling just being a pain in the ass even with a Wing Suit), Having player characters be Constantly overheated feels like a bit much. I've died from Dehydration more then ANY OTHER CREATURE OR THING in Abberation so far, by more then double. And keep in mind, I have 30 Fortitude, and I"m STILL overheating while naked.

It just feels really out of place with such pervasive heat being a problem in Abberation, where Light/Radiation is more of the focus, unlike SE, which is a desert.

[DrathDragoon33]

You know that aberration is in an underground cave filled with element ore lava and radiation. The whole place is a hot bed of radiactive and bioenergy.

[Aether]

Yes, I'm aware that there is a ton of energy being pumped out around that area.

I was speaking more from a Game mechanic standpoint.

First of all, we don't know if Element Ore even gives off heat. After all, raw Element does not make you get heated when you carry it (neither raw nor processed, so who knows) and I haven't seen any lava yet (like I said, haven't gotten to the deeper levels due to travel being annoying). I also was aware there is raditation in the deeper levels, which doesn't really explain why there is heat all the way at the top of the Ark, Away from the radiation sources.

From a game mechanic standpoint, the Heat feels out of place for the general focus feel of the map.

The Island it was "explore, and beat the bosses". SE it was "Explore a bit, and try to survive the heat cycles from heat to cold". Abberation is "Try to cross extremely difficult terrain while surviving radiation, and taming/avoiding creatures that both provide and avoid/hate light". It feels like the heat thing was thrown in as an afterthought, it doesn't really feel like a full "Mechanic" of the map the way it was in SE.

[DrathDragoon33]

Think of it like a massive bio chamber. It generates heat like everything else does as part of the process of life. Additionally, radiation is very hot and spreads warmth long distances past the source when not properly blocked off. Most of the creatures that live on the ark actually lived when the eaerh was considerably hotter.

Final point. The obelisks are barely functioning. Where they worked perfectly on the island and SE. Controlling all functions of the ark, including the temp. These obelisks are barely keeping the place lit up. Let alone regulating anything.

[Aether]

....I'm aware that, In real life, Radiation generates heat. I'm also aware that, again in real life, Heat, especially in an "enclosed" space (which considering we see a ton of light from the top of the caves seems to imply it is not actually sealed, plus other factors) tends to stay..well, hot. Surprisingly, I didn't go into Ark Survival expecting REALISM.

Your post does not address the POINT I brought up. The heat feels like it was thrown in as an afterthought, rather then the focus of the map. Making it not innovative, and not game changing. Making the fact that the heat in Abberation is an annoyance, with no new, innovative way to deal with it other then wasting inventory space with a map that is already frustrating and time consuming to move around on.

Once again, In SE, Heat and cold were an integral part of the design of the map. It felt like the map mechanics were built AROUND those two factors, heat and cold, and it worked Awesomely well together to create a challenging enviroment.

Abberation is built around Radiation, and Light/Charge. Heat felt like it was thrown in as an afterthought, and ends up being nothing but an annoyance.

Playing through SE for the first time, I was shocked by how much heat and cold were going to change my gameplay, and they did.

In Abberation, my only thought is, "Great, and because I'm overheating CONSTANTLY, I have to carry 20 sources of water on my physical person while I'm trying to Wing Suit around, in addition to carrying the materials to repair. Hope I don't find anything really cool to nab while I'm out, because now my Inventory space is gone." Sarcasm aside, Heat and Cold mechanics were an integral part of the map. Abberation makes the constant overheating an annoyance at best, especially as Abberation gives no you real way to DEAL with this, unlike SE.

[skyguard]

As soon as you are capable of, get yourself a radiation suit. That is the best protection not only for rad but also against the heat.

Also, if you haven't been top side yet, make sure to only go at night and well equipt. Going there during the day is death pretty quick, the whole surface is on fire during day time.

[graviphoton]

It is interesting... I spawn in lake 1 area (I know probably easiest) and I didn't die from heat a once. Yes, I often had to go for water, yes, sometimes I was killed by carnivore while approaching lake, but that's all. Making cloth suit as soon as possible is cruicial. And after leveling torpidity and making ghilie suit I have no problems with heat in green area at all.

[class101 [OLED deck]]

Originally posted by Sapherno11:

Making the fact that the heat in Abberation is an annoyance

It is not at all, it just just you who came up there with this nonsense , aberration heat is far far away from being the se heat, get yourself to play few hours on it and you will probably delete this stupid thread

[I am Legend]

When I first started on Aberration I also thought the heat seemed a bit out of place until I fully explored the map and found out the reason (I'm guessing) for the excessive heat. Take a trip to the surface of Aberration and you will see.

Also make sure and read the explorer notes to find out what happened to Aberration and why it is the way it is.

[Jethmar]

just get a ghillie duh.

[Drunk Capybara]

lool your tripping bruh

[boycey0102]

Originally posted by Sapherno11:

Yes, I'm aware that there is a ton of energy being pumped out around that area.

I was speaking more from a Game mechanic standpoint.

First of all, we don't know if Element Ore even gives off heat. After all, raw Element does not make you get heated when you carry it (neither raw nor processed, so who knows) and I haven't seen any lava yet (like I said, haven't gotten to the deeper levels due to travel being annoying). I also was aware there is raditation in the deeper levels, which doesn't really explain why there is heat all the way at the top of the Ark, Away from the radiation sources.

From a game mechanic standpoint, the Heat feels out of place for the general focus feel of the map.

The Island it was "explore, and beat the bosses". SE it was "Explore a bit, and try to survive the heat cycles from heat to cold". Abberation is "Try to cross extremely difficult terrain while surviving radiation, and taming/avoiding creatures that both provide and avoid/hate light". It feels like the heat thing was thrown in as an afterthought, it doesn't really feel like a full "Mechanic" of the map the way it was in SE.

pop your head out on surface when its daytime and youl see whyanything below surface is hot

[Aether]

Originally posted by =BRC=skyguard(EA):

As soon as you are capable of, get yourself a radiation suit. That is the best protection not only for rad but also against the heat.

Also, if you haven't been top side yet, make sure to only go at night and well equipt. Going there during the day is death pretty quick, the whole surface is on fire during day time.

Kinda sad when ONE post is the only actual helpful post listed so far. Namely yours. I'm fully aware what the surface is like. During day its a death trap, and during night isn't much better, either have to have light to fend off the Alien creatures, or no light to avoid the Seekers. I also didn't know the Rad suit worked against heat. Since it has limited durability, I only ever put it on RIGHT before I tried to venture onto the surface or into "the depths", so I didn't think to check the heat while wearing it, was caught up working on other things.

Graviphoton. I was actually unaware you COULD spawn at the lake for the longest time, until doing some research later on, I thought you NEEDED to spawn near the green area and head to the river as soon as possible, which of course lead to lots and lots of death -.- I actually had to turn on infinitestats just to explore the map and see what it was like because I kept dying and wanted to see if there was a better spawn point then the "easiest" options.


Class100. Jee, only a few hours on it? its almost like I don't have a survivor that's level...what, 80 now, with the experience multiplier set to .5. I've put MORE then "a few hours", into Abberation, and I ain't making up ♥♥♥♥. 30 Fortitude and naked I'm still overheating. Oh and I love how you completely avoided the ACTUAL points I made, kudos on that. Maybe, Just maybe, if you would pull your head out of your ass, and realize that not Everyone has 2k+ hours invested in Ark, that perhaps, the game is not as easy for other people as it is for your masterful self, it may just click that there are opinions other then yours. I found the heat in Abberation annoying. Nothing else. It wasn't a threat, it didn't contribute to my experience. It was an annoyance. And hey, I'm not the only one who was annoyed at the fact that the "easiest" spawn locations were death traps to new players. Don't believe me? Take a look online for comments.

Wraith. I'm aware, I've seen the surface. I'm also aware that space itself is as close to Absolute Zero as you can get in nature. I really don't want to start digging into the scientific reasonings, such as "Why does the underground have oxygen and a thriving biosphere, when clearly there is a ♥♥♥♥ ton of radiation pouring down into the surface. Judging from the amount of heat POURING down during day, clearly Abberation is far closer to a stellar body then is safe. I'd also point out that with the amount of heat pouring down, I find it hard to believe, even with advanced alien technology, that life would be able to survive considering how much rock seperates the surface from the caves (ie not much). For that matter, why isn't the surface molten rock? Why does the underground have oxygen without some sort of barrier or force field to keep it in, when you clearly do not pass one to get to the surface, there's just a hole? (well several holes). Where does the light come from in the green areas, because we Know what kind of light the aliens use, and that soft green isn't it. That almost looks like bioluminescence, which begs even more questions. That's why I didn't instantly jump to the conclusion that "Jee, it must be hot because the surface is hot". Abberation isn't exactly following "real" science. Nor do I expect it too, considering its a game about taming mutated dino's in an attempt to beat some super alien civ's death games/science project.

I also think its hilarious that out of most of the people who had 2k+ hours in the game, ONE of them posted actual helpful advice, and explained WHY it was helpful advice, and the other...4 commenters, or 5 were basically "git gud" or "ur opinion suks"

[RaptorNatho]

A tip is to kill a karkinos with bow,they are slow.Use the organic polymer to make ghille armor
BTW I remember Rockwell saying Element is warm

[boycey0102]

Originally posted by Sapherno11:

Originally posted by =BRC=skyguard(EA):

As soon as you are capable of, get yourself a radiation suit. That is the best protection not only for rad but also against the heat.

Also, if you haven't been top side yet, make sure to only go at night and well equipt. Going there during the day is death pretty quick, the whole surface is on fire during day time.

Kinda sad when ONE post is the only actual helpful post listed so far. Namely yours. I'm fully aware what the surface is like. During day its a death trap, and during night isn't much better, either have to have light to fend off the Alien creatures, or no light to avoid the Seekers. I also didn't know the Rad suit worked against heat. Since it has limited durability, I only ever put it on RIGHT before I tried to venture onto the surface or into "the depths", so I didn't think to check the heat while wearing it, was caught up working on other things.

Graviphoton. I was actually unaware you COULD spawn at the lake for the longest time, until doing some research later on, I thought you NEEDED to spawn near the green area and head to the river as soon as possible, which of course lead to lots and lots of death -.- I actually had to turn on infinitestats just to explore the map and see what it was like because I kept dying and wanted to see if there was a better spawn point then the "easiest" options.


Class100. Jee, only a few hours on it? its almost like I don't have a survivor that's level...what, 80 now, with the experience multiplier set to .5. I've put MORE then "a few hours", into Abberation, and I ain't making up ♥♥♥♥. 30 Fortitude and naked I'm still overheating. Oh and I love how you completely avoided the ACTUAL points I made, kudos on that. Maybe, Just maybe, if you would pull your head out of your ass, and realize that not Everyone has 2k+ hours invested in Ark, that perhaps, the game is not as easy for other people as it is for your masterful self, it may just click that there are opinions other then yours. I found the heat in Abberation annoying. Nothing else. It wasn't a threat, it didn't contribute to my experience. It was an annoyance. And hey, I'm not the only one who was annoyed at the fact that the "easiest" spawn locations were death traps to new players. Don't believe me? Take a look online for comments.

Wraith. I'm aware, I've seen the surface. I'm also aware that space itself is as close to Absolute Zero as you can get in nature. I really don't want to start digging into the scientific reasonings, such as "Why does the underground have oxygen and a thriving biosphere, when clearly there is a ♥♥♥♥ ton of radiation pouring down into the surface. Judging from the amount of heat POURING down during day, clearly Abberation is far closer to a stellar body then is safe. I'd also point out that with the amount of heat pouring down, I find it hard to believe, even with advanced alien technology, that life would be able to survive considering how much rock seperates the surface from the caves (ie not much). For that matter, why isn't the surface molten rock? Why does the underground have oxygen without some sort of barrier or force field to keep it in, when you clearly do not pass one to get to the surface, there's just a hole? (well several holes). Where does the light come from in the green areas, because we Know what kind of light the aliens use, and that soft green isn't it. That almost looks like bioluminescence, which begs even more questions. That's why I didn't instantly jump to the conclusion that "Jee, it must be hot because the surface is hot". Abberation isn't exactly following "real" science. Nor do I expect it too, considering its a game about taming mutated dino's in an attempt to beat some super alien civ's death games/science project.

I also think its hilarious that out of most of the people who had 2k+ hours in the game, ONE of them posted actual helpful advice, and explained WHY it was helpful advice, and the other...4 commenters, or 5 were basically "git gud" or "ur opinion suks"

feel better?

[boycey0102]

also i was being serious lol, the surface is basically cooking the world, wasnt sure if you had seen it or not, so anything under it would be h ot