ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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Shrykull Dec 26, 2016 @ 3:58pm
Why dont the animals have thirst??
^^The animals should have to drink water as well. I seriously think its weird the game doesnt have this.
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SourceUnknown Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:03pm 
Yeah, because waking up naked on a beach with a implant in your arm placed by aliens amomg some subgenre dinos isnt weird at all?
Slowpoker Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Shrykull:
^^The animals should have to drink water as well. I seriously think its weird the game doesnt have this.

I think this is a pretty valid idea!

It would add just that little more immersion seeing a wild or tamed dinosaur go towards a water source and drink, doesn't anyone else feel or share the same?
Originally posted by Slowpoker:
Originally posted by Shrykull:
^^The animals should have to drink water as well. I seriously think its weird the game doesnt have this.

I think this is a pretty valid idea!

It would add just that little more immersion seeing a wild or tamed dinosaur go towards a water source and drink, doesn't anyone else feel or share the same?

they get all the water they need from their diet of berries and watering dinos would be a nightmare
Slowpoker Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by ninjapigg:
Originally posted by Slowpoker:

I think this is a pretty valid idea!

It would add just that little more immersion seeing a wild or tamed dinosaur go towards a water source and drink, doesn't anyone else feel or share the same?

they get all the water they need from their diet of berries and watering dinos would be a nightmare

You think?

Okay, sure they get water from their diets, but it wouldn't be a really difficult thing to bring your dinosaurs to the waters edge to drink, or maybe for the developers to add a water trough, or maybe let dinos drink out of water wells in SE, the point is, it wouldn't be hugely difficult, and would actually fit in with ARK pretty well.
Originally posted by Slowpoker:
Originally posted by ninjapigg:

they get all the water they need from their diet of berries and watering dinos would be a nightmare

You think?

Okay, sure they get water from their diets, but it wouldn't be a really difficult thing to bring your dinosaurs to the waters edge to drink, or maybe for the developers to add a water trough, or maybe let dinos drink out of water wells in SE, the point is, it wouldn't be hugely difficult, and would actually fit in with ARK pretty well.

yes but most people dont wanna do it in alot of places it would be hard to water dinos yes water troughs could be done but the logistics of moving that much h2o would be a nightmare its a cool idea in thought but most people would not wanna play with that with that being said it would be neat as a mod tho
Shrykull Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by ninjapigg:
Originally posted by Slowpoker:

You think?

Okay, sure they get water from their diets, but it wouldn't be a really difficult thing to bring your dinosaurs to the waters edge to drink, or maybe for the developers to add a water trough, or maybe let dinos drink out of water wells in SE, the point is, it wouldn't be hugely difficult, and would actually fit in with ARK pretty well.

yes but most people dont wanna do it in alot of places it would be hard to water dinos yes water troughs could be done but the logistics of moving that much h2o would be a nightmare its a cool idea in thought but most people would not wanna play with that with that being said it would be neat as a mod tho
That would be part of the reason why they should do it really. Water source should be a factor in base location just like any other resource. Add the ability to build wells etc. and it wouldnt be that difficult to get them water or if wells aren't possible you have to bring the dino away from base to get a drink on occasion.
SourceUnknown Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:28pm 
At a glance, yes, having water for the dinos seems like a decent enough idea and I could probably see this implemented far later down the road....but its no where near a priority and no ones "immersion" will be totally ruined without it....

What I find hilarious is the people who rant about "realism" and "immersion" problems are the same people who complain about it when its implemented.....with that said, be careful what you wish for....you just might get it!
Slowpoker Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by SourceUnknown:
At a glance, yes, having water for the dinos seems like a decent enough idea and I could probably see this implemented far later down the road....but its no where near a priority and no ones "immersion" will be totally ruined without it....

What I find hilarious is the people who rant about "realism" and "immersion" problems are the same people who complain about it when its implemented.....with that said, be careful what you wish for....you just might get it!

Well, luckily I'm not one of those people ^.^

I just stated my opinion, nothing more.
SourceUnknown Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by Slowpoker:
Originally posted by SourceUnknown:
At a glance, yes, having water for the dinos seems like a decent enough idea and I could probably see this implemented far later down the road....but its no where near a priority and no ones "immersion" will be totally ruined without it....

What I find hilarious is the people who rant about "realism" and "immersion" problems are the same people who complain about it when its implemented.....with that said, be careful what you wish for....you just might get it!

Well, luckily I'm not one of those people ^.^

I just stated my opinion, nothing more.

Yeah, I understand that, not making a blanket statement for anyone in here. Just recounting how many times people ♥♥♥♥♥ about this and that and once its implemented, well, they ♥♥♥♥♥ even more....just saying, everyone should be careful what they wish for in this game, cause it may turn out to be a total bummer because they never really thought it through....imo, the game has enough stuff I have to constantly keep up on, why add another?

Johnny Jericho Dec 26, 2016 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by j-b-e-a-r:
Originally posted by SourceUnknown:
Yeah, because waking up naked on a beach with a implant in your arm placed by aliens amomg some subgenre dinos isnt weird at all?

As my mother said, 'Stone boats wouldn't float, its rediculous'.
Why wouldn't a stone boat float?
Myst?c Dec 26, 2016 @ 5:04pm 
this video may shed some light, its an official one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUXE3k_EkSE
Brax Dec 26, 2016 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Smaug:
Originally posted by j-b-e-a-r:

As my mother said, 'Stone boats wouldn't float, its rediculous'.
Why wouldn't a stone boat float?
Better not tell her about the ferries across Lake Champlain that are made of concrete.
Kaprodonychus Dec 26, 2016 @ 5:29pm 
problem is that theres many players with hundreds of dinosaurs they need to take care of. Adding a water trough simply wouldnt do. Food troughs work cause you can have one or two animals harvesting a lot of berries and meat to share with the rest of the animals. It wouldnt work like that for water. Youd have one giant pipe leading you to a water source and eventually itll break somewhere along the line due to collateral damage. And then theres ocean water which as we know, is not really good for us to drink.

Seawater contains salt. When humans drink seawater, their cells are thus taking in water and salt. While humans can safely ingest small amounts of salt, the salt content in seawater is much higher than what can be processed by the human body. Additionally, when we consume salt as part of our daily diets, we also drink liquids, which help to dilute the salt and keep it at a healthy level. Living cells do depend on sodium chloride (salt) to maintain the body’s chemical balances and reactions; however, too much sodium can be deadly.

Human kidneys can only make urine that is less salty than salt water. Therefore, to get rid of all the excess salt taken in by drinking seawater, you have to urinate more water than you drank. Eventually, you die of dehydration even as you become thirstier.
Sea water contains about 3.5% salts, while blood is about 0.6%. This means that if an animal drinks saltwater, it needs to excrete a huge amount of salts in order not to change the "salinity" of blood. This requires a significant modification to the kidneys, and even marine mammals do not achieve that, as they don't drink it purposely or to keep hydrated, at least not the way other mammals drink freshwater.

If the selection pressure were to be high enough, meaning no freshwater available anywhere, or no food available (such as fish) that is less salty that sea water, and given enough time, it is in theory plausible that the kidneys of a mammal would be modified to such an extent as to be able to excrete more salt, basically producing urine saltier than saltwater, like saltwater fish do. But this is not a trivial step to achieve, given that evolution builds on existing structures. It's probably easier to evolve ways to retain more water from the food, which is what pinnipeds do.

Just somethign i found on two websites. From this info alone, youve kinda narrowed it down for what animals and humans should really drink. Theres very few freshwater lakes in the Ark Island, Scorched Earth and the centre because the big lakes all connect to the ocean. Sure if they wanted, they can make a filtering machine that can remove the salt from the water and use salt as a resource and have the water drinkable. But if this 'animal needing water' mechanic was implemented right now, youd either have..
A. Giant long pipes strecthing across the land for water
B. A bunch of reserviors everywhere around your base (may not be pleasing to some peoples eyes)
C. Humans riding all of their animals to freshwater locations. But lets be honest, it only takes a few alpha tribes to build their base around the lakes so no one can have the water but them.

The reservoirs would be the best bet. But if dinosaurs had water needs, itd be natural for larger animals like the titan or giga to need a ♥♥♥♥ tonne of water as well as food. So youd need to build so many reservoirs
Brax Dec 26, 2016 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by Kaprodonychus:
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Ark doesn't have saltwater oceans. I have no idea what posessed you to write fifteen paragraphs about an issue that is not even in the game.

Also, morellatops carry water. There's no reason they can't be used as a water gatherer to fill up a water trough much like you use a bronto as a berry gatherer to fill up a feeding trough.
Shrykull Dec 26, 2016 @ 5:42pm 
The game is early access so I would hope nobody expects to keep all the stuff they have forever. Right now in the game you can drink any of the water in the game which is fine with me im not saying they need to add fresh/salt water detail anymore than i think the player character should have to pull there pants down before they ♥♥♥♥ or have to wash there pants. The player character needs to drink water I just think its only natural the dinosaurs need to drink as well. I think it would balance the game better and make it more realistic at the same time. Honestly hundreds of dinos being hoarded in a location far from water just sounds like another argument for adding thirst for dinos from my perspective.
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Date Posted: Dec 26, 2016 @ 3:58pm
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