squid stronger then mosa in many ways

[jacob99]

has a little less base health and gain per level but it gains more per wild point so its health is aout even, the thing is that although it has 35% less attack, from using it, it is easy to see that it attacks about 3 times faster so has about 65% more dps then a mosa thus a better damage dealer, it can also grab almost any creature (including mosas) and hit them for only 175 damage BUT heals 100 health per hit! (can regain 5k health from draining just one mosa to death in a matter of seconds) it is also fatser and it can use it ink to drain then enemies stamina/blind you/ slow you down while speeding itself up alot.

in the end it does more total damage then a mosa, had around the same health, can grab just about anything and heal from it by an insane amount and it can make super quick and easy get aways if out matched by something like 2 enemy player mosa or something like that.

and its not that hard to tame, you can even tame it befor egetting a mosa, just use a plesi to get lack pearls from ether it or the sea scorpian things and then have it grab the plesi while you tame it (that or have it grab a tanky turtle. turtle may be better)

[Hydaner]

It has LOTS of health more than the mosa.
I went to sp, spawned and forcetamed 2 of them,. Both had 26k hp and gained about 1.8k each level. This means they can reach 100k without effort.
I tamed lots of mosas in servers (they're my favourite mount) and the stronger one i found (29 points on hp) had 19k after the tame.
They deal less damage if they don't grab the prey: the attack on a grabbed dino is stronger and has a base damage of 100 (same as mosa).
But it's WAAAAY harder to tame than a mosa. A plessi will be killed in seconds by this babe, not rnough hp to tank the tuso all the way down the taming process, that is very long.
I think that mosa's gold days are finished. The only aspect of the mosa better than the squid is the AoE, that is way bigger than the squid and grants him a easier fight against group of enemies.

[jacob99]

Originally posted by Hydaner:

It has LOTS of health more than the mosa.
I went to sp, spawned and forcetamed 2 of them,. Both had 26k hp and gained about 1.8k each level. This means they can reach 100k without effort.
I tamed lots of mosas in servers (they're my favourite mount) and the stronger one i found (29 points on hp) had 19k after the tame.
They deal less damage if they don't grab the prey: the attack on a grabbed dino is stronger and has a base damage of 100 (same as mosa).
But it's WAAAAY harder to tame than a mosa. A plessi will be killed in seconds by this babe, not rnough hp to tank the tuso all the way down the taming process, that is very long.
I think that mosa's gold days are finished. The only aspect of the mosa better than the squid is the AoE, that is way bigger than the squid and grants him a easier fight against group of enemies.

taming isnt that long since it eats 50 pearls at once and plesi can have lots of health , dont underestimate them (even without plesi's there are still turtles which are even easier to get and use) also nah i use the squid and it has a way better aoe, able to hit dinos 10 meter in land from the shore and grab them to, its dps is higher then mosa but its base attack is not, the hundred damage is from when you hit something that you have grabbed and that damage isnt affected by the melee stat.

[Hydaner]

The squid's AoE is a long cilinder, while the mosa's one is a wide arc. I had problems with the squid killing piranhas and anglers.
Are you sure about the damage to a grabbed pray not influenced by the melee stat? I'm quite sure it is.
And i still believe the squid is a harder tame.... 50 black pearls are 300 weight, so you have to spent lots of points on it just for this tame
You have to carry the pearls to the tame position, so you must put those into the plessi
And if the plessi dies you lost ALL the pearls (as inventories disappear underwater)
The mosa is quite easy to knockout if it's alone, the only problem is the food (but you can use kibbles that are fast and lightweights, even if you need lots)

[jacob99]

Originally posted by Hydaner:

The squid's AoE is a long cilinder, while the mosa's one is a wide arc. I had problems with the squid killing piranhas and anglers.
Are you sure about the damage to a grabbed pray not influenced by the melee stat? I'm quite sure it is.
And i still believe the squid is a harder tame.... 50 black pearls are 300 weight, so you have to spent lots of points on it just for this tame
You have to carry the pearls to the tame position, so you must put those into the plessi
And if the plessi dies you lost ALL the pearls (as inventories disappear underwater)
The mosa is quite easy to knockout if it's alone, the only problem is the food (but you can use kibbles that are fast and lightweights, even if you need lots)

true, it does have problems with anglers, they should fix that.

[jacob99]

Originally posted by Hydaner:

The squid's AoE is a long cilinder, while the mosa's one is a wide arc. I had problems with the squid killing piranhas and anglers.
Are you sure about the damage to a grabbed pray not influenced by the melee stat? I'm quite sure it is.
And i still believe the squid is a harder tame.... 50 black pearls are 300 weight, so you have to spent lots of points on it just for this tame
You have to carry the pearls to the tame position, so you must put those into the plessi
And if the plessi dies you lost ALL the pearls (as inventories disappear underwater)
The mosa is quite easy to knockout if it's alone, the only problem is the food (but you can use kibbles that are fast and lightweights, even if you need lots)

my squid does 1.9k a hit (pre nerf dinos) and its grab crush (aka the 100 damage attack) only does 175 a hit even at 400% melee and even at 1138% melee.

[jacob99]

Originally posted by Hydaner:

The squid's AoE is a long cilinder, while the mosa's one is a wide arc. I had problems with the squid killing piranhas and anglers.
Are you sure about the damage to a grabbed pray not influenced by the melee stat? I'm quite sure it is.
And i still believe the squid is a harder tame.... 50 black pearls are 300 weight, so you have to spent lots of points on it just for this tame
You have to carry the pearls to the tame position, so you must put those into the plessi
And if the plessi dies you lost ALL the pearls (as inventories disappear underwater)
The mosa is quite easy to knockout if it's alone, the only problem is the food (but you can use kibbles that are fast and lightweights, even if you need lots)

50 blacks perals are only 100 weight.

[Hydaner]

Problwms with anglers makes sense, it must have a weakness.
About black pearls you're right, don't know why i was sure about their weight.
The thing that doesn't make sense in any way imo is the level needed for the saddle. 65? How the devs think you can tame this one before getting the scuba gear?

[VoreX]

wish i could get one...shame u cant tame them on offical pve because it wont grab a dino to let you feed it