Offline Raid Protection: what ever happened to it?

[Fern]

So months back the developers went and enabled offline raid protection in server settings, then setup a couple of official servers to "test" the idea on.
So far nothing seems to have happened with these modified servers which, are also in a region where I and many others get relaly bad lag.
why are there not more of these official offline protected servers going up?

It seems offline raid protection is one of the things that could certainly make the whole server transfer system a little bit more sane.
with server transfers enabled your setting people from different regions and timezones against oneanother, which means alot more offline raiding is happening now than when servers were sealed ecosystems.

Server transfers have been inflicted on the self managed system that evolved out of arks sandbox game mechanics and administration style. essentially server transfers have removed all the rules from the system, its like one day the bank down the street decided to just open the doors and not put on any staff or security, its only a matter of time before someone steals all the money.

Without some kind of limiting factor, the entire system that underpins pvp and makes it fun to play will slowly desintegrate. we are only seeing the beginning of the eventual decay of arks current system.
With the servers sealed ecosystem, players had to build up to fight eachother, that ment that bigger tribes would often pre-emptively raid tribes they were threatened by, often while offline.
thats what the game design called for. it might be sandbox but to survive, you do what it takes.
With an open ecosystem, the idea presumably is that people can build up in relative saftey and go out and find someone to attack, thats cool. the idea is great.
But its flawed, with different regions fighting eachother you have players bringing huge resources from heavily defended servers and just absolutely wiping less defended servers and often while the defenders are asleep! thats not fun, thats not even pvp. that is PVO and pvo is often soul crushing and devastating,
You log in after having a sleep to check your dinos before going to work and find... its all gone and you werent even there to do anything about it. that is not fun. no one thinks its fun.
is it fair, well yeah i mean the other guys were awake... sure you might have lost anyway but you don't even get a chance to fight back? thats just lame.


To keep any semblence of sanity in ark game designs that would help both new players and old, enabling offline protection into all ark servers as default would be a good move.
It allows alpha tribes the ability to bring a decent fight to server invaders, it gives a certain ammount of protection to new players who' don't have to worry about thier thatch huts being anihalated while they sleep.
More importantly it would let people do some actual pvp in the pvp servers, I would be willing to say without actually having any numbers to back it that most raids that happen cross server happen when no one is around to put up a fight.

how is that fun?

and is ark not supposed to be a game and therefor, be fun?

please enable offline raid protection on some more servers in each region at the very least.

-Thanks for reading

[Stephania]

引用自 Sarazener：

引用自 hullu hullu：

Let me correct that for you:



Not fun for you? Soooo, i guess the orp servers are dead? Great, so they are a failed concept, that fail was proven by them servers dying.

Wait for the shield generators, i think they will provide a very very high lvl of prptection to bases, and this could be the reason the devs didnt really listen to the offline raid critics, because they have the big plan and know "yeye, ppl whine now, but lets see what they say when we implement that new tek base defense stuff hehe, until then, we just ignore it".

can you afford tek stuff with your 200 h? are you playing on private servers than better stay calm and dont discuss on topics you have no clue about

Tek Tier is something inaccessible to the majority of players.
Players who not cheat obviously.

[Fern]

I think an adaptive ORP could be workable.

Your server tracks player numbers anyway, so why not have it choose a day and night ORP based on the servers player count.

so server has night and day modes, at night the server enables offline raid protection completely. like is currently on officials. assuming no one is on from a tribe, after x time, your stuff is immortal.

in the daytime if no one is around, tough luck, that would encourage raiders to come when a server is active instead of when no one is around.

Now if a whole bunch of people join a server while its in night mode, the server should detect this as an invasion and temporarily disable ORP after the current protection period is up.
this would allow server invasions to stll be viable across timezones. but the ORP only gets disabled for this when the server enters day mode, this means there should be more people around for fights.
and would allow fights to go on for ages without the defenders being able to log and abuse offline raid protection

[reaperjd]

引用自 OSpecialForceO：

引用自 #Fern：

lol im just sick of having to reverse my sleep cycle because we have raiders who always turn up at 4 am, anyone with a job can't do this and doesnt really have a choice about when they can and cant stay up at 4am to save thier stuff.

Well, let me ask you and your kind of players a very simple question. Then why are you still playing on PVP server? Plain and simple, why? There are PVE servers out there and you know this...

Let me answer this for you, because you want to kill other people, pick on the little ones, but don't want yourself get killed. Pure selfish, other than this, I can't think of any other reasons for you still wanting to stay on a PVP server so badly.

ROFL nope that's not why on PVE server you have no room to build ANYWHERE.

[Well Butter my Biscuit]

No room to build on the beaches which every "low level" player thinks they need to do. Sorry you refuse to move on to big boy's land.

[=Sarsante=]

Well there is an issue, its devs games and not yours so its not because you bought a game it must be fun for YOU.

If you want that, buy the company and call the shots.

[Tachyon]

引用自 daryan2115：

We play on PvP servers because we expected and wanted pvp. Attacking and wiping people while their offline isn't pvp...

In YOUR limited opinion, maybe. It's not like your opinion will change the situation in the slightest anyway.

[BeardO]

引用自 Tachyon：

引用自 daryan2115：

We play on PvP servers because we expected and wanted pvp. Attacking and wiping people while their offline isn't pvp...

In YOUR limited opinion, maybe. It's not like your opinion will change the situation in the slightest anyway.

Agree Offline raiding is part of PvP, I mean it is the only way some people can play PvP because they absolutely would get wrecked if the other players were online. Gotta make sure the snowflakes can win on occasion too ;)

[margalus]

Offline raiding is not PVP. This stands for Player vs Player. Offline raiding is PVEB. Player vs Empty Base...

[Sneaky Roach]

引用自 Fern：

So months back the developers went and enabled offline raid protection in server settings, then setup a couple of official servers to "test" the idea on.
So far nothing seems to have happened with these modified servers which, are also in a region where I and many others get relaly bad lag.
why are there not more of these official offline protected servers going up?

It seems offline raid protection is one of the things that could certainly make the whole server transfer system a little bit more sane.
with server transfers enabled your setting people from different regions and timezones against oneanother, which means alot more offline raiding is happening now than when servers were sealed ecosystems.

...

Let me say this, they will never read this and enable this, they dont care about solo players