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Most of the time, not always, lower levels are used for a madrid of things. But you can still use them to do big hunting if you use jsut enough hp to survive and the rest mellee...they still want be nearly as good though.
Stamina is extremely important if you want to fight.. Won't do any good to pump up damage much if you run out of stamina with 2 or 3 attacks...
Take it out and play with a bit and see what you think it needs for how you want to use it. Health, stamina and speed are my priorities. But that is me, not you.
- Very high level and perfect tame dinos are good for combat, where every little bit of stat is important.
- High-ish to intermediate level dinos are good for utility (gathering or hauling things). If you are taming a utility/gather dino and it happens to be a perfect tame, great, but if it's more an average level, it'll still work just fine. I have 2 beavers, 1 perfect 150 gali-kibble tame, the other a 90 tamed on berries. I just grab whichever is closest to me to go grab wood. there's not a really huge difference except one can carry a few more stacks, and might top off inventory a couple trees sooner.
- Very low level dinos are good "speed mounts", since all dinos tame out with the same base movement, a very low level dino can be leveled to go just as fast as a very high level dino. If all they are getting is speed increases each level-up, and they are only used to get places fast, there's no drawback to being low level.
example:
tamed lvl 15 quetz, put a platform saddle on it with a taming cage to catch more quetzals, pumped nothing but speed on it, and currently use it as a VERY fast flying mount with a respectable 800 weight, perfect for beaver dam runs, light but quick hauling, or rapidly picking up & carrying mid-sized dinos.
second quetz was a 145, it gets an mastercraft non-platform saddle with good armor, and all melee/health to be a strong fighter (possibly pointless now with wyverns, but still you get the idea).
3rd quetz was a 90, gave it mostly weight increases, a little movement speed. it got a platform saddle and a pretty heavy-duty assortment of crafting stations, generator, fridge, etc. It's basically a fully functioning mobile base and is THE metal-farming quetz.
Also made sure they're all female except for 1, so that they make an effective egg farm set while parked at base.
* With ARK's extremely low gains currently in melee & health level ups, you will not run into any problems with diminishing returns. That's a non-issue. Generally on a fighting mount you want as much melee and stamina as you 'need' for fights you expect to do regularly, there's just certain minimal survivability and endurance requirements for various tasks, and then as much melee dmg as you possibly can get. For example, on a battle-ptera, you'd want a very high level or perfect tame, enough health to take some nasty hits (like say 1000-2000hp or so), enough stamina to fight for a while before resting (like say 2000+stam or so), and all the rest in melee, (ideally over 500 after some heavy leveling). Bonus points if you can find or barter to get a very strong saddle from someone.
Argi's are not the best at anything, but they are fairly good at everything. You could stat an argi for just about any task. As long as you're not putting points into oxygen or food, and you have some kind of game plan for what you want to use the tame for and level it up accordingly, everything will be ok. I will say that I can't stand their slow movement though, so I generally waste half a dozen levels speeding them up, unless it's an all-out combat mount, and even then it's tempting to speed it up a bit.
I want to kill big dinos with the higher level Argy and I was worried about diminishing returns if I pumped melee too much but from I'm reading it seems that's the way to go. Melee/HP some stam and maybe a couple points into speed sound good to you guys?
It takes time yes and breeding carnivores is a real pain but that's if you are serious.
With regards to the stats on that bird, stam is the only decent one you got and you wont need to put points there (not sure why people think you do).
Get HP up a bit and then go melee. Faster something dies, less stam you use, less HP you lose, faster you get stuff done.
Also remember with the larger predators you can hit them without them touching you so if you are losing HP against a rex or Alpha it is more about positioning than anything else. HP there is a buffer for when you make a mistake in positioning.
I'm also interested in breeding as just about everyone mentioned in this thread but I'm wondering if it would be worth it to breed the 130 with a 150 or just tame two 150's for breeding. I know there will be a difference in stats but a few generations down the line I would think the stats should be within the margin of error at that point but then again i haven't researched breeding much yet so I'm not sure exactly how it works. Thanks again for all the tips learning a lot here!
don't get to caught up in the numbers yet. The better you get at it the less you'll need the hp. What happens is, you get hit. The better you are, the less you'll get hit. I know how obvious that sounds, but it's the truth. The exact numbers won't make an difference. Things like lag, glitches, all sorts of little things come into play.
It's been a long time since I played vanilla ark. I can tell you this. don't risk mounts you can't easily replace, and it's better to replace them BEFORE you lose them.
So, don't worry to much over stats yet, just get good with the argy, and you'll know what stats you'll need. stay away from the alpha carno at first. I seem to remember them being brutal. And they could get you stuck inside them.....