Question for the breeding experts - really need some help.

[Vadevious]

Hi, thanks for your time.

I have a slight problem. I've been breeding rexes and direwolves, with the plan to get "super dinos" as some say. On the server I play the max wild dino is 300 so so far I've managed to get my rexes to a nice 491 base level when born. My problem is I've ended up messing up and now have my one male and all females with mutations over 20 on both sides and no idea how to fix it.

My basic understanding is that I need to breed my females with a male that has <20/20 paternal mutations to be able to mutate further stats. So I ended up taming a wild 300 male and mating him with all my females. Out of this I got a male with good-ish stats and 0/20 mutations on the female side.

So I raised him and now used him to breed with all my females again, hoping to get a breeding pair with eventually the top stats... but ALL the babies came out with mutations on both sides of the tree over 20! What gives? Where did I go wrong?

I've watched no end of videos and use the ark smart breeding program but am still stuck. I still can't get my head around how this stuff works.

Hope someone can help, I would really appreciate an explanation of where I went wrong and if I can fix it!

P.S - Can I save color mutations and breed them in later down the line once I have my super dinos?

[Vadevious]

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[Caduryn]

First.... Mutations have nothing to do with good Stats, they are just Bonus.

The only thing to do is to mate Dinos with different high Stats to get all to one Dino.

Google for Ark Smart Breeding, that will help you alot to find good breeding Outcomes.

[Rags]

Watch this series, it will probably help...

How mutation work - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69FCGxZT9YM&list=PLwJpGCqOv3u3weHbKXI05qYO2hUBGzBnR&index=4)

Breaking mutation cap - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_ElNtAJXTA&list=PLwJpGCqOv3u3weHbKXI05qYO2hUBGzBnR&index=5)

Hitting level cap - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPDc5Zznwao&list=PLwJpGCqOv3u3weHbKXI05qYO2hUBGzBnR&index=6)

I haven't personally watched the third one yet but it might have good info in it.

Hope it helps, good luck.

[Twistsstick]

I'm still new to breeding myself, but I was given some advice by a friend who told me that when going for stats to keep the line "clean" of mutations until I had all stats as high as they'd go. Then to take that clean mated pair with all high stats and start breeding in the mutations to the already topped out stats.

Not sure if this helps any but good luck to you.

[Vadevious]

Originally posted by caduryn:

First.... Mutations have nothing to do with good Stats, they are just Bonus.

The only thing to do is to mate Dinos with different high Stats to get all to one Dino.

Google for Ark Smart Breeding, that will help you alot to find good breeding Outcomes.

Stat mutations happen same time as color mutations (thought you may not always see either). I don't know where you got your info from. You can stack them infinitely to get many many points in a specific stat (though it will take a lot of time/luck).

I do use the breeding app.

Originally posted by ST Nunya! Rags:

Watch this series, it will probably help...

How mutation work - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69FCGxZT9YM&list=PLwJpGCqOv3u3weHbKXI05qYO2hUBGzBnR&index=4)

Breaking mutation cap - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_ElNtAJXTA&list=PLwJpGCqOv3u3weHbKXI05qYO2hUBGzBnR&index=5)

Hitting level cap - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPDc5Zznwao&list=PLwJpGCqOv3u3weHbKXI05qYO2hUBGzBnR&index=6)

I haven't personally watched the third one yet but it might have good info in it.

Hope it helps, good luck.

Thank you, I will take a look.

[=Sarsante=]

Originally posted by caduryn:

First.... Mutations have nothing to do with good Stats, they are just Bonus.

Very misleading reply. Maybe he meant you can get mutations in crap stats like oxygen and you should just kill those babies? Idk

Basically to fix you need to add new blood. When you breed a 0/0 dino with yours all mutations should stack at one side ie 55/0. Unless you get a new one then it'll be 55/1 so you'll need breed again to get 56/0 or 0/56.

You can stack infinite mutations if one side has less than 20 ie 1M/0.

Watch the series posted above, if you think its too much information tagbacktv has a good video on the subject and its not that long.

Ark Smart Breeding helps but in fact using it its very commom end up with a bunch of mutations on both sides of the tree. I use it because Im lazy, so I just check the max level a baby can be from both 0/0 dinos. I get a male and female with 0 mutations and best stats from both dinos. From there I use the method described in the series, dont even need the app anymore.

[Vadevious]

Originally posted by =T$ECore= Sarsante:

Originally posted by caduryn:

First.... Mutations have nothing to do with good Stats, they are just Bonus.

Very misleading reply. Maybe he meant you can get mutations in crap stats like oxygen and you should just kill those babies? Idk

Basically to fix you need to add new blood. When you breed a 0/0 dino with yours all mutations should stack at one side ie 55/0. Unless you get a new one then it'll be 55/1 so you'll need breed again to get 56/0 or 0/56.

You can stack infinite mutations if one side has less than 20 ie 1M/0.

Watch the series posted above, if you think its too much information tagbacktv has a good video on the subject and its not that long.

Ark Smart Breeding helps but in fact using it its very commom end up with a bunch of mutations on both sides of the tree. I use it because Im lazy, so I just check the max level a baby can be from both 0/0 dinos. I get a male and female with 0 mutations and best stats from both dinos. From there I use the method described in the series, dont even need the app anymore.

Thank you for the help. Does this mean I should always aim to kill all my babies who are over 20 on both sides?

[=Sarsante=]

Originally posted by Vadim:

Originally posted by =T$ECore= Sarsante:

Very misleading reply. Maybe he meant you can get mutations in crap stats like oxygen and you should just kill those babies? Idk

Basically to fix you need to add new blood. When you breed a 0/0 dino with yours all mutations should stack at one side ie 55/0. Unless you get a new one then it'll be 55/1 so you'll need breed again to get 56/0 or 0/56.

You can stack infinite mutations if one side has less than 20 ie 1M/0.

Watch the series posted above, if you think its too much information tagbacktv has a good video on the subject and its not that long.

Ark Smart Breeding helps but in fact using it its very commom end up with a bunch of mutations on both sides of the tree. I use it because Im lazy, so I just check the max level a baby can be from both 0/0 dinos. I get a male and female with 0 mutations and best stats from both dinos. From there I use the method described in the series, dont even need the app anymore.

Thank you for the help. Does this mean I should always aim to kill all my babies who are over 20 on both sides?

ideally you wont get those babies if you follow the steps on those videos.

as you didnt follow the lets say 'proper' way, now you need to breed with 0/0 and get all the points to one side.

breed your lets say 50/50 with a 0/0 until you get a baby with all the best stats. the baby will be 100/0 or 0/100 (depending if teh 0/0 is male or female), so it will be able to mutate.

when you reach 20 or more on both sides again, breed again with a 0/0 and all points should go to one side 0/200 or 200/0 and while one side is below 20 it will be able to mutate.

If you keep doing that to throw the points to one side every now and then you can have a dino with 1 billion/19 and still be able to mutate. if then you get 1 billion/20 you need to breed with a 0/0 again.

Edit: those stupid high numbers can happen because the game just adds the points, doesnt even matter if you have a new mutation or not. so if you breed a 5/18 with a 19/19, the offspring will be 24/37 (assuming there isnt a new mutation). then if you breed the 24/37 with the 19/19, it will be 43/56 (again no new mutations, altho it could happen one because the 19/19 didnt reach the cap.)