Tranq Arrow Stacking and wait time between shots

[Grey]

I was always in doubt about the notorious 4 or whatever second wait time between the shots for max torpidity. Having tested many many times with normal narcotics..I knew that they (narcotics) stack, so for narcs it never made sense to not force feed more of them at a time. That said..I was always in doubt about what seems to be common knowledge for most ark players and is said in wikis etc.

Simple test with tamed animal:

• Wolf lvl 440.
  
• Crossbow with tranq arrows.
  
• I first check the torpor to be 0 at the beginning.
  
• 1 shot from the crossbow, gives the wolf around 190 torpor over 4 seconds. Meaning: 1 shot, then torpor rises from 0 to 190 in about 4 seconds. Fair enough.
  
• If the "common knowledge" is true, I should not be able to shoot 2 arrows without delay, without losing torpor. So mathematically: 2 arrows should rise the torpor to 380.
  
• I shot two arrows immediately after each other without pause..and guess what..torpor went to 380 very fast...
  
• I then tested this with different animals and many arrows and varying waiting times. Always with the same conclusion. Arrows DO stack.

I just wanted to let this here, because my teammates..after years still don't believe me..and there is so many posts out there about how you better wait with your shots.

Of course..in the end phase..waiting can make sense..sure..but not because the torpor wont stack...but because you want to save some ammo.

[Vladson]

I think long long time ago it did'nt stacked, that's why someone still think it's not.

[Armos]

Yeah, the over-time distribution and stacking of torpor from tranq arrows is why they're better. I've tried tranq darts, and the downtime between shots due to reloading lets creatures with quickly draining torpor escape you easily, or should I say, just waste your ammo since they drain faster than you can inflict it. Since their torpor doesn't constantly go up, it'll start going down immediately after each dart, rendering them less effective, even if they do passively inflict more torpor immediately.

Since that realization a while back, I've always used a crossbow and spammed tranqs to the head or wherever until they go down.

So yeah, while I'd like to say this is common knowledge, many are still under the assumption that they don't stack when they indeed do.

[Grey]

True. They do stack and torpot does stack. And word needs to be spread!

[Bandit]

Everyone knows they stack that plays the game. Sorry if you just realized this.

[Grey]

Originally posted by 123:

Everyone knows they stack that plays the game. Sorry if you just realized this.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. I clearly don't know this since "now" but for ages. Still you find like hundreds of posts and chats and even live voice chats of ppl who say otherwise.

[Ferchi]

other good info is if you know where shoot to use the best torpor, like the trike is the basic dino always the first days then if you shoot to the head (like all the people do) is a waste in arrows/darts, but if you shoot to the body is better, the head is like a wall and the body like cotton

[Corbae]

Originally posted by 123:

Everyone knows they stack that plays the game. Sorry if you just realized this.

This is not true. I have argued with people just recently about this.

[Grey]

Originally posted by Bella:

Originally posted by 123:

Everyone knows they stack that plays the game. Sorry if you just realized this.

This is not true. I have argued with people just recently about this.

Thanks for your post. I feel like this topic is discussed over and over every day. We need to spread the word.

[tseppi]

MIND BLOWN KABOOM

[Neutralize]

Originally posted by Armos:

Yeah, the over-time distribution and stacking of torpor from tranq arrows is why they're better. I've tried tranq darts, and the downtime between shots due to reloading lets creatures with quickly draining torpor escape you easily, or should I say, just waste your ammo since they drain faster than you can inflict it. Since their torpor doesn't constantly go up, it'll start going down immediately after each dart, rendering them less effective, even if they do passively inflict more torpor immediately.

Since that realization a while back, I've always used a crossbow and spammed tranqs to the head or wherever until they go down.

So yeah, while I'd like to say this is common knowledge, many are still under the assumption that they don't stack when they indeed do.

Not to mention that the range on tranq darts is so utterly crap that it's a joke. Outside of just trying to minimize damage for more taming effectiveness, I don't see how the resource cost is justified, even if the raw torpor damage is higher per shot (but then I guess not really torpor "dps", since, as you mentioned, the time between shots is so insanely long- I could be wrong though, I haven't done the math or looked for it, yet).

Most situations when taming stuff, seems to me you want to maximize your distance, at least when it comes to the things that will charge you and try to eat your face. Or then there are also those instances when things run away when near a knockout or for the dinos that are skittish, which means you really have to give chase or prevent it from happening since your range with darts is so limited. Chalk in the fact that you can still use the crossbow underwater too and yeah...my vote goes to crossbow with tranq arrows, hands down. Ooh, and the option of using a grapple for utility, too. Crossbow is boss.

[Cobretti]

Personally I've never seen a post where someone said tranqs don't stack and I would expect if anyone made that comment they would be corrected immediately.

Spreading your shots is a valid tactic for some tames that have low health pools relative to their torpor but for most dinos, go nuts.

[tuco-ramires]

Go spam a direbear.

[steve.pots]

Originally posted by WP Grey Wolf:

Of course..in the end phase..waiting can make sense..sure..but not because the torpor wont stack...but because you want to save some ammo.

For me, saving ammo has nothing to do with it. arrows are cheap. The problem comes in when you see the dino still standing and let the new arrow fly only to have it pass out before the arrow reaches it causing it damage after KO and your taming effectiveness to be damaged as result.

[Neko]

Dont know, i allways thought they stack.
I thought people have their 4 second wait rule so the tame doesnt go k.o. while
you are shooting it and through that lowering the taming effectivenes.

[AshMessiah]

Torpor stack, but for me, torpor/sec doesn't stack...
It's the same when you use narcotics on dino, you can use one hundred narcotics, torpor will up during a long time, but the speed doesn't change
You can shoot 10 arrows in 10 seconds, but it's going to take 40 seconds to get to 1800 torpor on the dino...
Maybe something have changed, don't really know....