Can I breed beyond maximum level?

[Rowan]

So suppose I play on difficulty 4 and dinosaurs are roughly from level 20-180, Once tamed they are usually around 220 and once leveled up they're 290 since 70 levels is the maximum you can go after they're tamed. Is there a way to breed them so they go even beyond 290? Like all the way up to level 1000?

[Der Zonk]

on official you can get max. lvl450

on unofficial and SP you can get high as you want.

[Leyren]

Difficulty 4 -> maximum wild level 120 (difficulty * 30). After tame (on perfect tame) +50%, so 180.
The breed creatures inherit base stats of their parents (and those stats make up their level after tame, like 40 points in health, 31 in melee, etc.). Theoretically, you could have dinos with baselevel of 180 with all 180 points in one stat (needless to say that this is highly, highly improbable). If you'd breed those together, and the offspring inherits the correct stats, you have a higher level.
Example: For simplicity, lets say there are only two stats, melee and HP. Female with 31 HP and 40 Melee (Base level 71), and Male with 37 HP and 26 Melee (Base level 63) breed. The offspring randomly inherits their stats, so it could be 31 HP 26 Melee (Base level 57) or even 37 HP 40 Melee (Base level 77). To see how many points they actually have in each stat, you either need to calculate, or use a mod like super spyglass.

[Rowan]

Originally posted by Leyren:

Difficulty 4 -> maximum wild level 120 (difficulty * 30). After tame (on perfect tame) +50%, so 180.
The breed creatures inherit base stats of their parents (and those stats make up their level after tame, like 40 points in health, 31 in melee, etc.). Theoretically, you could have dinos with baselevel of 180 with all 180 points in one stat (needless to say that this is highly, highly improbable). If you'd breed those together, and the offspring inherits the correct stats, you have a higher level.
Example: For simplicity, lets say there are only two stats, melee and HP. Female with 31 HP and 40 Melee (Base level 71), and Male with 37 HP and 26 Melee (Base level 63) breed. The offspring randomly inherits their stats, so it could be 31 HP 26 Melee (Base level 57) or even 37 HP 40 Melee (Base level 77). To see how many points they actually have in each stat, you either need to calculate, or use a mod like super spyglass.

That's very interesting info, but I'm not sure if that answers my question if levels are limitless through breeding? Haha

[Jaketin]

Originally posted by PyuaNaoko:

Originally posted by Leyren:

Difficulty 4 -> maximum wild level 120 (difficulty * 30). After tame (on perfect tame) +50%, so 180.
The breed creatures inherit base stats of their parents (and those stats make up their level after tame, like 40 points in health, 31 in melee, etc.). Theoretically, you could have dinos with baselevel of 180 with all 180 points in one stat (needless to say that this is highly, highly improbable). If you'd breed those together, and the offspring inherits the correct stats, you have a higher level.
Example: For simplicity, lets say there are only two stats, melee and HP. Female with 31 HP and 40 Melee (Base level 71), and Male with 37 HP and 26 Melee (Base level 63) breed. The offspring randomly inherits their stats, so it could be 31 HP 26 Melee (Base level 57) or even 37 HP 40 Melee (Base level 77). To see how many points they actually have in each stat, you either need to calculate, or use a mod like super spyglass.

That's very interesting info, but I'm not sure if that answers my question if levels are limitless through breeding? Haha

If you keep on breeding you can get even lvl 1000000 creatures. This requires you to be lucky. When breeding you can always get max 12 lvl lower or higher then parents lvl before leveling up. So yes. You can breed beyond max lvl. Example: breeding lvl 240 and 250 dodo can at best come out as lvl 262 dodo or at worst lvl 228 dodo. So 12 lvls is the max you can increase it with single breesing. Breeding with 12 lvls increase per "generation" means every 10 generation you can get 120 lvls more. And this is limited on most servers to 450lvl but at that point say 450 rex can literally start to solo kill bosses

[[Vilu]]

Originally posted by PyuaNaoko:

That's very interesting info, but I'm not sure if that answers my question if levels are limitless through breeding? Haha

You can breed past the maximum level one can achieve by taming, yes. Up to the level of having highests stat for each of the attributes that the parents have.

edit: Eminence explained it better/clearer so I'm just gonna edit this out, read below for more details :)

[Eminence]

No, you cannot increase their level to an unlimited level, unless you allow them to spawn wild at higher levels.
On official (or unofficial 'max difficulty') IE Max wild level of 150 you can theoretically get a level 1,640 I believe.

Level 150 + 75 (100% Taming effectiveness) = max level after tame of 225.

That's 224 points (level 1 does not have a point associated with it) distributed randomly by wild levels (the only ones transferrable to a baby during breeding)

There are a total of 7 stats

Health
Stamina
Oxygen
Food
Weight melee
Movement speed

Thus if you have 7 tames with all 224 points in one stat (there is a 1 in 2.00429186235E189 PER STAT. Assuming that each stat is given an equal chance to increase on every level) and you were to breed them until you got all seven of those stats on one Dino (7*224=1568) add in its one starting level (1569) and the seventy one level ups available after being born brings it to a Max level of 1,640.

I'm not sure if stat mutations add levels or not, if they do than this number would be a little higher, but never unlimited.

[Eminence]

Originally posted by Pulikutya:

After you reach max level, you can max all stats through breeding, but they won't scale beyond the maximum level. With every level you get a small stat boost plus points to spend. You can get a lvl120 with 1319 attribute points, for example. Each attribute is capped by max level, but you can (statistically) get maximum in each and all.

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but as far as I can tell everything in that post is false.

[Havengrad]

There is a hilariously high theoretical level if you have the resources for a cloning chamber.

Dino level is based on stats spent, so in theory you could get an animal with enough stats up to around 450, at that point you can no longer use the cloning chamber to clear out the mutations needed to boost the stats beyond any sample you can find in the wild.

So, via the cloning chamber, 450 ish is max, baring of course really high extra difficulty settings.

It's quite a bit more complicated than I make it sound, but to my knowledge on an official server 450 is theoretical max-ish.

[Hundezahn]

Originally posted by Eminence:

I'm not sure if stat mutations add levels or not, if they do than this number would be a little higher, but never unlimited.

They do. But the steps are small (1-4 levels per mutation I believe) and you can get max 20 mutations per parent

[Pulikutya]

Originally posted by Eminence:

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but as far as I can tell everything in that post is false.

Checked again, leveling does not give a stat boost, only points.

Originally posted by Eminence:

No, you cannot increase their level to an unlimited level, unless you allow them to spawn wild at higher levels.
On official (or unofficial 'max difficulty') IE Max wild level of 150 you can theoretically get a level 1,640 I believe.

Level 150 + 75 (100% Taming effectiveness) = max level after tame of 225.

That's 224 points (level 1 does not have a point associated with it) distributed randomly by wild levels (the only ones transferrable to a baby during breeding)

There are a total of 7 stats

Health
Stamina
Oxygen
Food
Weight melee
Movement speed

Thus if you have 7 tames with all 224 points in one stat (there is a 1 in 2.00429186235E189 PER STAT. Assuming that each stat is given an equal chance to increase on every level) and you were to breed them until you got all seven of those stats on one Dino (7*224=1568) add in its one starting level (1569) and the seventy one level ups available after being born brings it to a Max level of 1,640.

I'm not sure if stat mutations add levels or not, if they do than this number would be a little higher, but never unlimited.

^This is the correct answer.
https://ark.gamepedia.com/Breeding#Level_of_the_Offspring

[Eminence]

Originally posted by Tyrinath:

It's quite a bit more complicated than I make it sound, but to my knowledge on an official server 450 is theoretical max-ish.

I believe some time back they actually announced that 450 was a hard level cap. Meaning no matter what you can never get beyond that on official.