Tyranny and Politics in the Servers

[Triv Triv Boy]

Hey Everyone
Just a person from Official 45 here.

We had an incident where the server is now in essence slaves to a griefing group.
a guy with a fabricated sniper came on one night and started killing dinos on his own. no one caught him and we thought he obelisk transported out of the server. two days he returns, and in a fight with 3 small tribes, accidentally poison gassed himself.

The small tribes decided to cage him for his actions, but he threatened the entire server to return his items or he would wipe the server.

The tribes decided to call his bluff, and in 30 minutes he came back with a Giga, a Yutr, and a Spino, all seemingly above level 350.

They circled the island and destroyed most of the tribes, and now theyre holding survivors hostage, forcing them to join their group or to be caged in metal, unable to play on their high level characters.

Is there anything to stop this? its sort of unfair since there is nothing an undeveloped server like 45 can do to stop them. At the moment were too underdeveloped. and now people have to choose being slaves or not playing the game at all, just because we tried defending ourselves.

Im sure this whole griefing and intertwinement of "Who is mega/alpha on ark" has affected other servers?

[Dasilva]

dont play pvp?

[Tachyon]

What? They caged him and he got out, then got his dinos?

[Triv Triv Boy]

Im not sure, people suspect he got on an alt. No one can really tell considering all the 123's

[TheFriendlyGuy]

That s normal on ARK official pvp.
Don t expect to ever catch up to Megatribe-Members / Solo cheaters.

Probably will change with new servers at release,
if you lost most stuff atm maybe spend time with something better and let legacy servers die.

[Triv Triv Boy]

There was a lot of talk about Violence getting peaceful when the new servers come out. The attackers however were boasting their "Tribe of 350+ people will get 7-8 servers right off the bat"

[Pawsie]

normal map or ragnarok map?

[Arndell]

Originally posted by Triviality:

The attackers however were boasting their "Tribe of 350+ people will get 7-8 servers right off the bat"

If Wildcard ever adds some kind of microtransactions to compensate for fixing the duplication bugs, those 350+ people and more will be their best paying customers.

[Triv Triv Boy]

Originally posted by 123:

That s normal on ARK official pvp.
Don t expect to ever catch up to Megatribe-Members / Solo cheaters.

Probably will change with new servers at release,
if you lost most stuff atm maybe spend time with something better and let legacy servers die.

Also, I didnt lose anything since I avoided the attackers path, but having to hide for 6 hours while people are on a killing spree disrupts the flow of the game, especially when 2x is in effect :(

[Arndell]

Originally posted by Triviality:

Also, I didnt lose anything since I avoided the attackers path, but having to hide for 6 hours while people are on a killing spree disrupts the flow of the game, especially when 2x is in effect :(

Surely whaterver form of fun you feel you get from being able to kill other players is not worth the endless crap and outright abuse that must always come with it? In any game that has PvP as an option the story is all the same.

Any sense of competition in a fun way is like a drop of water in an ocean of crap, it's not worth your time.

[TheFriendlyGuy]

I don t expect it to get peaceful, absolutely not, but those tribes of 350+ have not only experience and networks but problems too :)

Old rivals, adaption to new spots, new rivals, ..

Uprising new alpha s have a fresh, new experience, old alphas have to fear if they really can make a come back to where they were.

When was better time to put spys / saboteurs / .. into megatribes ?

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Triviality:

Hey Everyone
Just a person from Official 45 here.

Only needed to stop reading there. 17000+ unofficial servers to the hundreds of official proof of concept/demo servers. The majority of people play on unofficials by comparrison. You've just learned one of the -many- reasons why.

[Arndell]

Originally posted by retsam1:

The majority of people play on unofficials by comparrison. You've just learned one of the -many- reasons why.

I kinda prefer no admin support to the somewhat rare but still actually occuring admin abuse you get on unofficial.

I also dislike how your game can be wiped because the server owner is bored or out of money.

Official has many downsides, one of the biggest being it's basically owned by russian and chinese hordes who are only in it to make your life annoying for their enjoyment.

However, the fact you can have the security in knowing they will exist for years, at the very least keeping your character progression if not your settlements is such a huge positive.

I dislike my game progression being in the hands of an actual human with their own personality and feelings to do with my time as they see fit :P
I'm much more comfortable with a silent, faceless, inactive entity that does nothing but keep the server running at all times.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Arndell:

Originally posted by retsam1:

The majority of people play on unofficials by comparrison. You've just learned one of the -many- reasons why.

I kinda prefer no admin support to the somewhat rare but still actually occuring admin abuse you get on unofficial.

I also dislike how your game can be wiped because the server owner is bored or out of money.

Official has many downsides, one of the biggest being it's basically owned by russian and chinese hordes who are only in it to make your life annoying for their enjoyment.

However, the fact you can have the security in knowing they will exist for years, at the very least keeping your character progression if not your settlements is such a huge positive.

I dislike my game progression being in the hands of an actual human with their own personality and feelings to do with my time as they see fit :P
I'm much more comfortable with a silent, faceless, inactive entity that does nothing but keep the server running at all times.

Sorry if you think 17000+ unofficial servers (compared to the hundreds only of official) are full of admin abuse. The majority of players of ark disagree with you and hence why they play on them(that and of course the game being a modded content centric game to the point that WC pays 4k a month stipends to select mod makers and the last 3 of our 4 dlcs originated from mods.

Cant play mods on official servers, only unofficials and single player. WC puts alot of emphasis thus and encouragement (outside of the proof of concept demo state only of official servers mind you) to go and play on such servers.

As for your "security" in stuff staying around, I guess you missed the news about low pop official servers being repurposed to new ones coming on the 29th and old ones turning to "legacy" and subsequently any future legacies that drop below will be repurposed as well?

Folks who spend time researching and vetting servers that suits them tend to find something that works for them. Again if they were so so horrible unofficials would not be 17 times the numbers of officials and have the majority of folks playing on them.

But I understand your uncomfortable feelings and fears and perhaps then slogging through the officials is best suited to you.

[Arndell]

Originally posted by retsam1:

The majority of players of ark disagree with you

The majority of Ark players are wrong!

"At its peak, Nazi party membership reached 8 million out of 80 million Germans in 'Greater Germany' or about ten percent of the population."

The amount of people thinking something does not make it automatically correct.

Of course my own opinion is not automatically correct simply because it's mine either.

Also they are simply unmodded, not proof of concept testing grounds, on the 8th of August there is going to be official 1.0 servers released separate from the legacy cluster, What would you call those?

[Triv Triv Boy]

I have to agree with Arndell, unofficial servers are scary because the power is in the server owner, and my progression as a player relies on that person.

The only reason I survived the raids was because I noah arked the night. First thing I did on official was work up to a motorboat, and now that I have it, Im always on the move :v