Electric eels knocking you off your mount?

[Toto]

When I was on angler, and an electrophorus reached at me and shocked me, nothing happened. I started going with my mosa and suddenly im being knocked off?

[D3545t3r]

May be a bug with Angler just the Basi is shock immune.

[Toto]

Originally posted by D3545t3r:

May be a bug with Angler just the Basi is shock immune.

It's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that a "lower level tame" like basilo can fight off more dinos than a mosa can.

[RancidRevenant]

its also beyond retarded how many of them there are. what they should of done is just made it to where eels can only stun your mount but no knock off. But because they were so proud of the gimmick that is jellyfish.
they went "lol lets make eels be a faster jellyfish, now lets increase the spawns of them!"

It doesn't help that the ocean is broken in terms of the food chain. IE even the lowest creature attacks the largest creature.

TL:DR Eels are faster jellyfish and are flatout broken cause lol gimmicks.

[Remnant]

I was attacked by a large swarm of them recently while out with my Baryonyx. They caught me by suprise and insta killed me. I had a tribe mate fly me back over with a spare set of Scuba, and dived down to save my Bary, but just ended up watching as my Bary kept killing them one by one inbetween shocks. Now when ever I see Eels, I just dismount and hit attack target and support with crossbows/harpoons, least when other things aren't near by that can help them, making it harder on my Bary

[D3545t3r]

Dont have problems with eels i swimm around with scuba only and they dont get me with flippers you have a resistance after schock for 2 or 3 seconds so you can swimm away if you dont stuck in them thats just the only problem stuck in the creatures, but this can kill you also on land if land dinos stuck into your dino.
The Basi only have high health and if you tame a high level one you can give him good dmg but dont forget he cant dive deep so they get dmg over time 10H per second thats what make the mosa better and if you have a mosa tek saddle you can shoot the eels from distance.
Since the new water cratures are in i love the ocean more and more ;)

[Toto]

eels should only immobilize your tame, not knock it off or something the recharge timer needs to be longer so you get to make a move atleast
atleast when killing cnidarias you get some bio toxin, which is literally the best "narcotic" out there
you kill a pack of eels and u get some fish meat
good thing we're in the balance phase, eh?

[Toto]

Originally posted by D3545t3r:

Dont have problems with eels i swimm around with scuba only and they dont get me with flippers you have a resistance after schock for 2 or 3 seconds so you can swimm away if you dont stuck in them thats just the only problem stuck in the creatures, but this can kill you also on land if land dinos stuck into your dino.
The Basi only have high health and if you tame a high level one you can give him good dmg but dont forget he cant dive deep so they get dmg over time 10H per second thats what make the mosa better and if you have a mosa tek saddle you can shoot the eels from distance.
Since the new water cratures are in i love the ocean more and more ;)

mosa isn't better in any way except if you plan to kill an alpha mosa, and even then its not your main mount, and basils reach over 10k hp at lvl 100 so i think 10-50 hp per tick isn't that much

[Chrmdfreak]

I honestly dislike the choices they made in the ocean. The big alpha predetors of the ocean are no longer usable as jellyfish and eels will come and ♥♥♥♥ you over. I do wish that they would leave a mosa and plesi be, the basilo and squid are imune to their shocks and I do feel it would be just fine if a megalodon or dunky would get shocked as they arent as big and scary.

The biggest problem being that especially the eels, but the jellyfish too in some ways, are just getting at you with too many and then they shock not all at once but one after the other. Meaning you are perma stunned and cannot do anything against them. Neither you or your mount. They should make it so you cannot be kicked off but the mount is being stunned OR they should make the cooldown on the shock way longer to give one the time to respond after the initial stun wears off.

To be fair I was soo happy I finally managed to tame a high level plesi and mosa but now Im scared to go out on them because of the freaking ocean stunners. I dont want to bring a basilo with me on all trips but I dont want to lose my plesi or mosa either. I hate going deep on the basilo even though mine can easily handle being too deep in the ocean for extended periods of time, just because I hate having to deal with that "im being hurt" sound and animation the entire time.

PS I do dislike the dismount upon stun on land as much as in the water; its just stupid XD

[D3545t3r]

The problem are not the eels only the problem is that the eels dont came alone often you get aggro on plesio and megalodon too. So it happens that all is attacking you and not against each other i mean the eels the plesios and other creatures you have aggro only atacking your watermount. If thy would do dmg to each other it was a little more balanced so you have time to pull yor mount out of them thats the only change i would like to see.

@123 i think mosa gets better stats on high level then a basi so for me its stronger they have more health and dmg you have only to watch out that no eels get you :D

[Tryst49]

The biggest problem with swarms is that they can end up perma shocking you. As one wears off the next one tags you. At least make the player immune for a period of time enough to get away of fight back a bit.

I had the same with 5 Dilo's while was riding my Sabretooth. At least they don't dismount you but they can leave you perma blind for the whole fight.

Because of the unbalanced ocean dino's, I don't even bother with going in the water. On land many things ignore you as long as you don't aggro them, in water, everything except dolphins and coel wants to snack on you. Go for a swim and you can find yourself surrounded by almost every type of aquatic life you can imagine, all having a toss up to see which one cleans your bones first.

Also, there's no predation in the water, dolphins, sharks and all manner of life swim together as best buddies without attacking each other. At least on land you can divert a predators attention by running past an easier target.

[Zaphod4th]

Originally posted by tryst49:

Do the dinos suddently smell different when they are tamed? Seems legit.

This, how many times you're taming, ark spawns a creature just to go directly to your sleeping tame and start attacking it.

Ark logic.

[Wyndninja]

Tuso also seems to be immune to knock offs. Though not immune to the stun effect.

[hsf_]

Originally posted by RancidRevenant:

its also beyond retarded how many of them there are. what they should of done is just made it to where eels can only stun your mount but no knock off. But because they were so proud of the gimmick that is jellyfish.
they went "lol lets make eels be a faster jellyfish, now lets increase the spawns of them!"

It doesn't help that the ocean is broken in terms of the food chain. IE even the lowest creature attacks the largest creature.

TL:DR Eels are faster jellyfish and are flatout broken cause lol gimmicks.

Sorry but I've seen Dilo's attacking Bronto's so it's not just in water that the food chain is broken.

[D3545t3r]

Originally posted by hsf_:

Originally posted by RancidRevenant:

its also beyond retarded how many of them there are. what they should of done is just made it to where eels can only stun your mount but no knock off. But because they were so proud of the gimmick that is jellyfish.
they went "lol lets make eels be a faster jellyfish, now lets increase the spawns of them!"

It doesn't help that the ocean is broken in terms of the food chain. IE even the lowest creature attacks the largest creature.

TL:DR Eels are faster jellyfish and are flatout broken cause lol gimmicks.

Sorry but I've seen Dilo's attacking Bronto's so it's not just in water that the food chain is broken.

maybe it was a very hungry dilo :) haha

i think the bronto was hitting him so they attack and thats what i mean underwater if ther aer 6 eels and 2 plesios the plesios have to atack the eels ore the eels have to atack them because thy have a great aoe range and i dont belive that they miss the eels when all swimming in my mount that is what is goging wrong they dont hit each other because why seems thats the dmg is standing on off on nontamed creatures in water thats not rigth.