Is Scorched Earth better than The Island?

[SeeDee]

I know I've been commenting a lot on this thread but I think I found my new favourite game.
But before I buy Scorched Earth, I want to hear it from other people who have it.

Is the map bigger?
Can you get more FPS on Scorched Earth than The Island?
Are there more creatures?
Is it tedious?
Overall, would you play Scorched Earth or The Island?

[GobboKirk]

Not better, different and a bit more challenging.
I've spent more time on the Island but it was a really nice change of pace when it came out.

[Goldirah75]

theres no place to put water creatures

[TheNightglow]

SE is better if you want to play on official PvE server, since there is almost no lag and freezes at all on SE server while the lag on official island server is soo extremly annoying and often makes the game borderline unplayable

the SE map is I think either the same size or a bit smaller than island, and has fewer different animals (no under water dinos, and a lot of the other island dinos missing)

for singleplayer or unofficial server I would prefer island, for official PvE server SE is simply better

there are also a lot of other things that are either unobtainable on SE or simply dont work there

additionally there are a lot of abitrary tedious boundries to make it harder, like generators on SE die after a bit and you are not allowed to place crop plots in the majority of the map area, because crops are banned from the badlands biom....

so:
map about the same
fps better on SE
less creatures
SE kinda more tedious than island

[Toooni]

Originally posted by SeeDee:

I know I've been commenting a lot on this thread but I think I found my new favourite game.
But before I buy Scorched Earth, I want to hear it from other people who have it.

Is the map bigger?
Can you get more FPS on Scorched Earth than The Island?
Are there more creatures?
Is it tedious?
Overall, would you play Scorched Earth or The Island?

bigger? --> nope
more fps --> yes, you have better fps on all maps than on the island because the map maker of the island doesn't have an idea what he is doing...

more creatures? --> nope... some others than on the island, but less overall.

tedious? --> for me yes.. except the things which couldn't be found on the island

Overall? Do not play only 1 server... many servers are clustered together (you can travel from one to the other). Example servers --> [CH] Born2Frag - .....

[HawthornThistleberry]

Scorched Earth is a refreshing change of pace, and I think the map is better than The Island in several ways -- it's much more beautiful, its layout is more interesting, it feels more like a polished product, and it feels like it all fits together in ways where the Island feels like a bunch of stuff dropped into place without much rhyme or reason. I also like the differences in SE in what's scarce versus common, and what's in one place versus all over. The Island makes several must-have things have very limited choices in where to get them in ways that seem like bad design, except for the "PVP players can pwn everyone!!!!11!111!!!!11111!!" play style. SE has its bottlenecks but they feel more like an integral part of the setting than an arbitrary, makes-no-sense PVP mechanic.

But SE is definitely a "smaller" game. The map may be the same size (don't know) but there's less going on in it, fewer animals, fewer different kinds of areas, smaller and simpler caves, etc. It feels like what it is -- DLC. When it cost the same as the main game, that made little sense. Now that they're ballooning the main game's price to inexplicable, company-destroying prices, SE's price actually makes sense compared to the main game -- that is, they're both overpriced in about the same proportion.

[g0rml3ss]

It's purely personal preferance, I would say they both have thier own pro's & cons.

While personally I love the astmosphere of scorched over the Island, it seems a more fitting landscape to the dinos stories I grew up with as apposed to lush almost tropical landscapes of the Island (I'm sure there was both in reality during the time).

It's definately not a bigger map and I personally feel it lacks somewhat in variation of creatures, there are also some (imo) that just dont fit the map , specifically the T-rex I think the Allosaurs fit the environment better as the top predator but again that's a personal thought.

I get on average the same fps on both using the same options although scorched seesm to be more fluid with less drops and feels like it performs better over all (probably due to the lack of water as it's under the entire map of The Island, I'm sure this contributes to the islands bad performance in certain areas.)

After sometime it can definately become tedious but so too does the island, Tooni's recommendation of playing on a cluster and travelling from time to time is a good recommendation.

Overall I personally prefer Scorched to The Island, if it's better or not is a personal opinion.

[Lich Lord]

SE is amazing and challenging compared to Island, The weather system is harsh, the creatures are harder to deal with but the caves are easier...just dont walk around on the dunes...Cool at night, hot during the day, they really nailed the biome.

[Cobretti]

OP I wouldn't recommend it for you at this point in time as you just started playing.

The difficulty has been toned down a bit since release but it is still for more experienced players and pretty much nowhere on the map is safe so you need to know how to handle wolves / terror birds / sabers / raptors early game which most new players don't. Then there is the weather on top of that. You are just going to die a lot.

The Island is also a more complete map, more dinos and better range of biomes. People that play SE ultimately return to their main base on The Island or The Center. There is no one on my old SE server that is still playing there as their main server.

With the release of the Ragnarok DLC, you have to question whether it is better to just play that map and get everything in 1 place which will happen when it is complete.

[Boomer]

Until they add something specific to scorched earth i wouldn't worry about it. Maybe if its on sale, go for it but i almost regret buying it because of ragnarok's release.

[SeeDee]

Originally posted by Boomer:

Until they add something specific to scorched earth i wouldn't worry about it. Maybe if its on sale, go for it but i almost regret buying it because of ragnarok's release.

Is Ragnarok basically The Island, Scorched Earth and The Center combined?

[tuco-ramires]

I don't think anything will ever be better than the Island,it's just the perfect setup.
It just lacks grasslands.

[Vesuvius]

Originally posted by SeeDee:

Originally posted by Boomer:

Until they add something specific to scorched earth i wouldn't worry about it. Maybe if its on sale, go for it but i almost regret buying it because of ragnarok's release.

Is Ragnarok basically The Island, Scorched Earth and The Center combined?

Ragnarok is a map that incorperates all of the island / SE biomes.... the desert section of Ragnarok is not yet finished.

I agree with Boomer... get it if its on sale.... just remember that Ragnarok will eventualy have All of SE's content ... possibly minus the weather effects (dont know). It already has wyverns.

[TheNightglow]

Originally posted by SeeDee:

Originally posted by Boomer:

Until they add something specific to scorched earth i wouldn't worry about it. Maybe if its on sale, go for it but i almost regret buying it because of ragnarok's release.

Is Ragnarok basically The Island, Scorched Earth and The Center combined?

its meant to be like that, but I think the desert part is currently fenced off for being under construction or something

but yea, if you want to have all the content of the DLC + all the content of the vanilla game, you probably want to look into ragnarok...
it even doesnt cost anything extra.... what makes SE dlc buyers regret the purchase...

think there was also some server option to make the fence passable so you can already visit the desert part of the ragnarok map....

problem with things like ragnarok and center - the mod maps which became official - is that they tend to be... well.... not polished.....

some bugs, some anoying holes, some graphic issues where the visual map doesnt add up to the physics (as in floor displayed lower than it is etc), and they often fail to keep up with updates....
for instance it took ages for center to get a redwood biom, after redwood was already released for island...

havent really spend much time with ragnarok map yet, but so far it looks ok, less annoyingly buggy than center